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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Awarrior View Post
    Hey, I just heard from the NYSRPA that the 7-round ruling reversal only applies to Western NY state? The rest of us are still stuck with seven rounds? Hear anything on that?
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    SAFE Act ammunition provision remains intact in CNY despite Federal judge’s ruling :

    District Attorney: SAFE Act ammunition provision remains intact in CNY despite Federal judge?s ruling - LocalSYR.com powered by NewsChannel 9 WSYR Syracuse

    It would appear that the Onondaga DA has a point. However, Skretny's ruling is likely to be upheld by the 2nd Circuit and then the law becomes State wide. In the end, the 7 round rule is dead. Perhaps Federal District court wasn't the proper venue for the NYSRPA litigation. It would seem this matter should have been handled in State Supreme Court, then there wouldn't be this confusion.

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    So what I'm getting from all this is I better keep it to seven until I hear otherwise.
    I'm in Orange County, by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Awarrior View Post
    So what I'm getting from all this is I better keep it to seven until I hear otherwise.
    I'm in Orange County, by the way.
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    I would say be very careful with what you do or don't do. I would not assume anything until it is 100% clear. You would not want to open yourself up to powerful negative consequences.

    You're right, you should probably keep seven in the magazines. Personally, I would do so until I know for sure that I will not and cannot be arrested, etc., because of some ambiguity in the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC Orange View Post
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    SAFE Act ammunition provision remains intact in CNY despite Federal judge’s ruling :

    District Attorney: SAFE Act ammunition provision remains intact in CNY despite Federal judge?s ruling - LocalSYR.com powered by NewsChannel 9 WSYR Syracuse

    It would appear that the Onondaga DA has a point. However, Skretny's ruling is likely to be upheld by the 2nd Circuit and then the law becomes State wide. In the end, the 7 round rule is dead. Perhaps Federal District court wasn't the proper venue for the NYSRPA litigation. It would seem this matter should have been handled in State Supreme Court, then there wouldn't be this confusion.

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    the state supreme court is divided into 12 districts, and 4 appellate districts, so a state case would take longer to become state wide law.

    First, it would only be applicable in the 8th judicial district (assuming it was still filed in Buffalo). Even if upheld on appeal, it would only be applicable in the 4th appellate district. And the NY Court of Appeals would not have to take the appeal, so a statewide decision might not happen for many years.

    The Second Circuit Court of Appeal's decision will cover all of NY.

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    Thankfully the seven round business is dead in the water now. It was absolutely arbitrary and had no rational basis whatsoever. It is really outrageous that some are still bent on wanting to charge innocent people under what has now been declared an unconstitutional provision of the law.

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    What aggravates me is the judge and even many gun owners repeat what the talking points were.
    Keep your gun just register it. Sounds reasonable doesn't it.
    It is just like Obama saying you can keep your plan. It is BS. You can keep it until you die. Then it must be either sold out of state or turned in.
    Call it banning or elimination or confiscation by Attrition. One thing is for sure these progressives have patience.

    Secondly- I don't think the Judge applied Heller correctly.
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    NY sure APPLIED this ----ing law in a hurry. And now it may take YEARS to undo it? I was pretty happy when I heard the seven round limit got knocked down, but now even THAT'S bull$hit?!?
    I'm not gonna have much choice other than stop thinking about it. I used to believe we had a voice, we could make a difference with our vote.
    Where's the proof of THAT fantasy being true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Awarrior View Post
    NY sure APPLIED this ----ing law in a hurry. And now it may take YEARS to undo it? I was pretty happy when I heard the seven round limit got knocked down, but now even THAT'S bull$hit?!?
    I'm not gonna have much choice other than stop thinking about it. I used to believe we had a voice, we could make a difference with our vote.
    Where's the proof of THAT fantasy being true?
    First, if the SAFE act violates the constitution, then it is not a matter of voting, it is a matter of law. If the 7-round limit is unconstitutional then it is unconstitutional from the day of enactment. You can ignore it, but if it is constitutional then you risk being convicted for violating it. Your choice.

    Second, to the extent any of the SAFE act is constitutional, then it is a matter of politics, but the fact that a majority of voters disagree with you doesn't mean that your vote didn't count - it just means that you are stuck with the political choices of a majority of people in your jurisdiction - that is how our system works.

    Would you prefer that political decision me made by a minority of voters instead? How would that work? If a majority of voters vote for Candidate A then we declare B the winner?

    The fact that a majority of voters don't agree with you does not mean your vote didn't count - it just means you couldn't get enough other voters to agree with you to have your way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golocx4 View Post
    You can keep it until you die. Then it must be either sold out of state or turned in.
    What would you need it for after you are dead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    What would you need it for after you are dead?
    Hey, you never know. When going to hell be sure to take a bigger pitchfork than the devil.
    GOD, GUNS and GUITARS

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