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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by dubccat51 View Post
    Do you not support his right to open carry if he so chooses?
    I support all rights given to us under the United States Constitution. However, you are confusing two issues here.

    I never opposed anyone's rights to open carry. Imerely stated that open carry can have some consequences that may not be desired. I then mentioned that when open carrying, the element of surprise is lost.

    I would never challenge anyone's right to carry openly.

    So, I caution you again to fully read all contents of the previous posts before you assume how one believes or what one's stance is.

    There are many folks who open carry not so much for self-defense, but rather to prove the point that they can under law, carry open.

    You do not see many martial artists running around diplaying items that would show the general public that they are trained to fight. Why? Because the element of surprise is always an advantage.


    Peace...
    You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. Remember -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more.

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  3. I am sorry about your bad experiences in NC. I live in a rural county and received my permit in two weeks. I have read however that the sheriff in your county is very anti and slows it up all he can.

    I also agree that from what I have read about him open carry would invite a world of trouble.

    Now, for the issue of all the restrictions in NC, as I live near the Virginia border I to there for banking and movies.

  4. North Carolina Law...

    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaJohn View Post
    I would never challenge anyone's right to carry openly.
    Back to North Carolina Law. Open Carry is legal and supported by two N.C. Supreme Court decisions (State v. Kerner and State v. Fennell). If you accept the inconveniences of having an exposed weapon and you know and follow the law you will not be arrested. In the Peoples Republic of Chapel Hill the handgun you openly carry must be over six inches in length. Concealed Carry is legal statewide with a permit. We have some stupid restrictions on places that we can carry both openly and concealed. Anybody have anthing else to add?

  5. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by dubccat51 View Post
    Back to North Carolina Law. Open Carry is legal and supported by two N.C. Supreme Court decisions (State v. Kerner and State v. Fennell). If you accept the inconveniences of having an exposed weapon and you know and follow the law you will not be arrested. In the Peoples Republic of Chapel Hill the handgun you openly carry must be over six inches in length. Concealed Carry is legal statewide with a permit. We have some stupid restrictions on places that we can carry both openly and concealed. Anybody have anthing else to add?

    You cannot say "you will not be arrested." Police arrest people for various things. They charge you. You then have to fight a legal battle to prove that you were within the law. I am not saying you will be arrested 100% of the time or even 50%, but if a cop feels you are in violation of the law, you go to jail and it becomes your issue to prove that you were wrongly arrested.

    Even then, you will not see monetary retribution. LEO (I am not cop bashing here) have leewaymore than you think in these matters.

    If a cop wants to charge you with "Going Armed to the Terror of the Public," he can do it. It becomes a problem for you the citizen,not him the cop.

    I am also not saying to give up your rights, just be prudent in exercising them.
    You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. Remember -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more.

  6. You can also be arrested because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time or you look like someone who committed a crime. It's an inconvienent, scary fact of life but 99.9999999% of the time, if you know and follow the law, you will be fine. Why worry about it if you know you are within the law and can prove it?

  7. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by dubccat51 View Post
    You can also be arrested because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time or you look like someone who committed a crime. It's an inconvienent, scary fact of life but 99.9999999% of the time, if you know and follow the law, you will be fine. Why worry about it if you know you are within the law and can prove it?

    I will just agree to disagree Be well...
    You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. Remember -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more.

  8. One shouldn't say that you will not be arrested for openly carrying, however one can say that you CANNOT BE ARRESTED for open carry. It is legal, and it is not grounds for detention or arrest, PERIOD. If a law enforcement officer attempts to detain or arrest me solely for carrying openly, and can articulate no other legitimate reason, I will remind them that when faced with unlawful arrest, I have the right to defend myself by any means necessary. After that, the ball is in their court.

    Anyway I apologize for making a wrong assumption. I made the assumption that you didn't have a lot of retention training or practice based on your apparent fear of carrying openly.

    As far as what exactly the topic is, I think of it this way. The topic here is what is LEGAL here NC, as well as how LEOs and others react to LEGAL activity. Cops, Sheriffs, and anyone else who think they have authority will tell you that while open carry is technically legal, you shouldn't do it because it's dangerous and it will scare people, and you'll get arrested anyway. You, John, seem to have this exact same opinion. You argue that you think you'll get arrested at gunpoint for carrying in a bank. I am TELLING YOU that I've done it, and that didn't happen. Have you ever open carried here, John? Sounds like you haven't...if that's the case, then why do you think you can speculate on what will happen? Go carry, get arrested, and THEN I will agree with you. Until then, you have nothing but speculations against my first hand experiences.

    The bottom line is, there is no excuse for suggesting that someone not practice their RIGHT. You can do whatever you'd like, and you can express your reasons, but there is no place on this forum for trying to convince others not to do something LEGAL because a LEO is going to ILLEGALLY arrest you.

    Although all have the right to Carry, not everyone has the right to carry concealed. That is a priviledge granted by the State.
    You seem very comfortable with this fact, John. That worries me. I would have to argue and say that it IS your right to carry openly OR concealed, but this state still requires you to have their permission to carry concealed. I personally think this is wrong, and am doing all I can to change it.

    Now I am going to say, yet again, that I am not a lawyer. I will also say, however, that if anyone, while doing absolutely nothing else wrong, gets arrested simply for openly carrying after reading this thread, I will personally help pay for their lawyer. Open carry is legal in this State, and that's the end of it.

    If you don't use your rights, you'll lose your rights.

  9. #38
    You know I agreed to disagree, yet you push on. No my friend, I do NOT fear open carry. I choose not to,my choice...ain't America Great for that? If you choose to be a cowboy....go for it..I have no issue.

    Now....when you are financially able to PAY all my legal bills, time off work, college tuition for my kid and food on my table for an unlawful arrest protest, I may take you up on it.

    I would love to see you defend yourself against any LEO that decided you were under arrest, but you felt otherwise. Are you going to draw your weapon on them? You stated "any means..." How ridiculous!

    Watch this video: YouTube - Dan Sayers arrest video

    Ohio is an Open Carry State....
    You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. Remember -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more.

  10. lol well I started typing before you agreed to disagree. So that's the second time you've called me cowboy...kinda childish, don'tcha think? That really sounds like an argument an anti-gun person would use. Ya know, gun owners are nothing more than gunslinging wanna-be cowboys...is that how you feel, John?

    Anyway I can think of VERY FEW situations where I would go so far as to physically resist a LEO, let alone draw down on one. I also highly doubt that I would run across a LEO that would honestly attempt to arrest me for no good reason. The thing is, though, LEOs aren't any different from anybody else. They're just people doing their job. They're not better than me, and I'm not better than them. I'm gonna treat them the same way I treat anybody else, and trust them as much as I trust anybody else (which isn't that much, sorry). If they're dumb enough to try to illegally arrest me, they'll get the same treatment as a guy who was trying to kidnap me or beat me up would. Of course I wouldn't attempt to go up against a guy who had an obvious advantage (i.e. he had his gun out before I got mine out) but thats just a matter of self preservation. I'd have to find another way out of that rather stick situation.

    Anyway, you've given three main reasons for choosing not to open carry. The first was that you think you'll get arrested, the second is that you think you'll be at a greater risk for an attack, and lastly in the event of an attack, you think you will not have the element of surprise over your attacker. Sounds like you're afraid to get arrested, afraid to be a target, and afraid to let others know you're armed. Your choice is out of fear as far as I can tell.

    Anyway as you can see I'm referring to real situations, most of which I, myself, have been in, as well as making observations and expressing my opinions based on said observations. You're name calling and making up pretend scenarios where your opinion is right and mine is wrong. Can we maybe get on the same page here? You grow up or I grow down...I'll let you choose.

    Oh, and btw, the cowboy reference is about as far from the truth as possible. I don't don't own a single "western" piece of clothing, my gun is a chew-toy polymer semi-auto, and I grew up in da north.

    Oh yeah one more thing, if that element of surprise you talk about makes concealing so much more wonderfully tactful than openly carrying, then why do cops carry openly? Why aren't they all plain clothed and concealed, that way they have the element of surprise in case someone breaks the law? Why aren't BGs constantly stealing LEOs guns?

  11. #40
    Wow....I just cannot believe the reasoning of your arguement.
    I wish I had more time to debate the whole "why don't cops get attacked" point you are trying to make, but I think your banter has caused me to have a seizure and I cannot think straight.

    I have heard and read your type of responses in many forums. While you point your finger at me, you are exactly the poster child for the ANTIs. You are the, "Hey...Look at me..I have a gun....I can carry it here.....LOOK AT ME!!!" type.

    It's one thing to just carry openly and to blend in to the background, but you have an unhealthy desire to be noticed. Just look at your writings.

    Anyway...thanks Tom for the invite to this forum. It nauseates me and I will go back to the other forum....

    Peace..


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    You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. Remember -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more.

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