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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheldon View Post
    I put this here to vent and keep the tender ears of some from being bruised but this is NO 3!!! GD-DA People that think it is a grand idea to let their dogs run loose country, has again cost my daughter another of her prized farm animals.

    As of today in 3 seperate incidents over the last 2 years she has lost 1 sheep, 4 goats, (counting the latest) 4 ducks, 6 chickens, 1 cat and a very expensive Llama to dog attacks.

    In each incident a pit bull was involved!!! last time she was there and she put a .357 end to it, but this time country animal control showed up first and has the 2 dogs and are attempting to find the owners!!! Yeah so far the total is over 20K....

    There ought to be a season on them!!!
    when i was last stationed in germany 1982-1985, my mom was living in Hot Springs,Ark. and sent me a newspaper clipping about a street gang(read street thugs) using pit bulls to intimidate-attack people. i questioned her if she still had her dad's .38 detective special, she stated she did and i told her to carry it in her purse. and if confronted with the same situation to put one in the dog's head and one in the same place of the owner! now i know that some will berate me for telling her this but she was only 4'11" and weighed about 90 lbs. and was disabled, had i been with her and an attack by these thugs occured you can bet i would had acted in the same manner! the honest,hard working people have always been prayed upon by this kind of thug and by the time the leo's show up the attacked are usualy severly injured or dead. the crimanals now have more rights than the victim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ga9mm View Post
    I agree with you that dogs shouldn't be allowed to run free. I also understand your frustration/anger over the loss. So there were 3 different times that a pit bull attacked your daughter's animals? I don't think I would blame the entire breed on that. Dogs are products of their environments. Most dogs can be trained to be violent, aggresive, and dangerous. So can people. Should there be open season on people, too? My answer is yes, to an extent. BUT, how do we know which ones to go after? Just because you've had bad luck with pits, does that really mean all of them are bad?

    I know you're not interested in anything but your daughter and her well-being and loss of expensive animals, but if you look, you will find an abundance of information on how pit bulls are mis-represented, very loyal, incredibly smart, and great pets. I've had at least one all my life, and have never had any trouble with them at all.

    Again, sorry for her/your loss.
    You can say the exact same thing about Muslims only 10% of them bear watching but throw all of them in the same room and which 10% do you keep an eye on. It just seems a huge conscience that every attack has been a pit bull, but statically pit bulls are no 1 the the problem list.... BTY just found out today we got lucky the dog was chipped, now we have a name an phone no to the owner....
    "The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century
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    I wouldn't start labeling breeds. Any loose or ferral dog can be a problem. I've had a few different renters in my neighborhood that would let their dogs run loose and were problems in the neighborhood. They would chase the kids and charge us. One even took a roasted chicken out of the back of my wifes van as she was unloading groceries. One boxer, a couple shaggy shitzu types, begals, and now a couple of dobies. I dealt with all the others with my 22, and am getting ready to deal with the dobies. We are just outside city limits, in the county, this is southwest Missouri. My one block "hood" is on the end of a street that passes thru a couple other "hoods". We are surrounded by fields and pastures. I haven't had to deal with "pet" owners, even though they know it was me. They can ***** and moan all they want, but a loose dog is a stray dog. And I'm not the only one that has had problems with them. I also have a city cop and a county sheriff in the area that keep their dogs in a fenced yard or on a leash. So they would do the same. And city animal control won't do anything because we are "in the county".
    Loose problem pet or rogue stray dog, have at it. I have also removed some problem cats that were pestering my dogs, chickens, and spraying around my house and vehicles.

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    We have a saying here: Shoot, shovel and shut up.

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    One day I was talking to a pharmacist about stray cats coming in our backyard. Tucker having an indoor cat living with us here, wouldn't harm the cats outside wandering around. Anyway, he said something about aspirin -- he said put an aspirin in a little bowl of milk and put it where the stray cat will see it and drink the milk. You won't see the cat again. Then he said don't tell anyone that he told me.

    I know...it is funny but now I am telling the whole world via the internet, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheldon View Post
    I put this here to vent and keep the tender ears of some from being bruised but this is NO 3!!! GD-DA People that think it is a grand idea to let their dogs run loose country, has again cost my daughter another of her prized farm animals.

    As of today in 3 seperate incidents over the last 2 years she has lost 1 sheep, 4 goats, (counting the latest) 4 ducks, 6 chickens, 1 cat and a very expensive Llama to dog attacks.

    In each incident a pit bull was involved!!! last time she was there and she put a .357 end to it, but this time country animal control showed up first and has the 2 dogs and are attempting to find the owners!!! Yeah so far the total is over 20K....

    There ought to be a season on them!!!
    Sheldon, you may want to look at this article:

    An old law, but it still has teeth - Michigan Farm News

    I know in Texas, we have nuisance animal laws in the rural areas. It is not uncommon that if a neighbor dogs who are let to wander loose may end up dead if they attack a neighbors livestock. It looks like you are covered, but you may want to check around about it before acting on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker's Mom View Post
    One day I was talking to a pharmacist about stray cats coming in our backyard. Tucker having an indoor cat living with us here, wouldn't harm the cats outside wandering around. Anyway, he said something about aspirin -- he said put an aspirin in a little bowl of milk and put it where the stray cat will see it and drink the milk. You won't see the cat again. Then he said don't tell anyone that he told me.

    I know...it is funny but now I am telling the whole world via the internet, huh?

    Sleep....sleep....sleep...you don't want to know me...
    I think it is Tylenol for dogs....


    I didn't say that....

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    brikler thanks for the story I printed it out for the daughter.... I have had 3 dogs over the years and all three were always either on a leash, chained up, in their kennel or in the house they were never allowed to wander about. as for stay cats yeah DA'S also drop them off just because you live in the country they think you want their unwanted pet, and i have them neutralized so no kittens but i sure end up with a heap of barn cats, but in all my years i have yet to hear of one story of any house cat that has attacked and killed anything larger than the family canary.....
    "The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century
    "Don't be so open minded that your brains fall out!" Father John Corapi.

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    Glad I could help out. I hope it works out for ya'll. :)

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    Couple "stray" thoughts (pun intended):

    I like dogs and would avoid labeling breeds, as has been pointed out. One of the best dogs I ever had was a huge Rott. If you were cool, no problem, was a big pussycat but act threateningly toward me or my family, and trouble was a-brewing. I trusted this dog explicitly around kids and knew it was never just gonna attack someone. Similarly, I have seen pit bulls that were fantastic pets, great with kids. It's the breeding and the training that is the problem, not the breed.

    I would be hesitant to just shoot any stray dog that I see, at least the first time. Maybe this is just a harmless house pet that the kids inadvertently let get out.

    Now, if the animal is a pest, threatening people, pets, or livestock, then you gotta take care of business, no question.

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