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  1. #11
    The Crusades was Europe's response to INVASION by muslims.

    This whole sight thing is a complete non-issue.

    I suspect some low rating reporters are just trying to get a boost.

    If the armed forces object to this code, let them find someone else. I suspect Trijicon's patent is airtight.

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    I like it ... ... ...

  4. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Onlinedad View Post
    you may want to ease up on the slander, just because one objects to believing in invisible entities in the sky, does not neccessarly make them liberal.
    The thing is, no one is objecting to anyone believing in anything. They are objecting to a group of numbers and letters. Do those characters stand for something? Trij has apparently acknowledged that they do. But so what? If that equates to our soldiers proselytizing (defined as "to convert or attempt to convert as a proselyte"), then so would wearing a cross or carrying a bible.
    The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. - Thomas Jefferson

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    i highly doubt that these numbers are going to make our boys an even bigger target. and these letters on the acogs dont mean squat to me. they make a damn good optic and our boys use them well. this is just another reason for idiots to oppose guns and gun related items. and i dont really care about religion. its not going to stop me from buying their products. and if we really do have the freedom of religion, then why are they bitching in the first place about this. i wonder if the people who brought this into the light are christian or not. im guessing they are not. its people like this that ruin things for the many of us that actually like the freedoms that we have left.

    liberals are good at crying like children at the playground. but when things go their way, nothing gets done, but we end up paying for their views on how society in America should be. In the end, they'll get whats coming to 'em. I'll get mine, Aye sir.
    "You cannot discover new oceans unless you have the courage to lose sight of the shore."

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    The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. - Thomas Jefferson

  7. Cool Sights

    Quote Originally Posted by utimmer43 View Post
    Its the way that the country is going, cave for a few.

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    I wish they had stuck to their guns. No pun intended. I wonder if things would be different if the owner was still alive. Guess the contract was just way to big to chance losing.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Well I wonder what they are going to do with all the surplus product. Maybe they should have a big sell. Call it the Crusades sale. I could use a few new sights.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. - Ronald Reagan

  10. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by utimmer43 View Post
    The thing is, no one is objecting to anyone believing in anything. They are objecting to a group of numbers and letters. Do those characters stand for something? Trij has apparently acknowledged that they do. But so what? If that equates to our soldiers proselytizing (defined as "to convert or attempt to convert as a proselyte"), then so would wearing a cross or carrying a bible.
    All I was refering to was a previous post where someone mentioned something to the effect of, this must have been brought about by someone who rejects god, and therefore must be a liberal retard (libtard I believe was the exact word). I was trying to make the point that just because someone does not believe in god, nor does a person want religious refferences on merchandise that they buy, this should not automatically label them as a "Libtard".

    If a company wants to include semi elusive refferences to religion, then they should have that right to. However, they should also offer the same model without the religious message. Especially for a military/govt contract. I believe the reason that the anti proselytizing law is in effect is because our govt/military does not have a missionary type mission statement. Our govt does not send our military in to spred the word of god, or any other religious message. Nor should it, ever.

    It is because of our freedom of religious choice that individual members of our military are allowed to wear religious medallions, or carry religious reading materials on their person. So in effect by issuing equipment to our military that does contain a religious message this does take away from an individuals right to choose what religion or any religion or no religion. Thus turning our military and our govt from a nation that should be advocating and protecting peace, to just another religious sect that thinks that its religious beliefs are better than someone elses. So we now could be looked at, from an outside source, as just another fanatical religious govt trying to oppress someone elses beliefs, because we think our invisible man in the sky is bettery than their invisible man in the sky.

    wrapping up, and going back to my main point, that I dont care if a company wants to have an option to imprint a particular phrase onto its merchandise, but if it is religious in nature, then it should also offer the same merchandise without the religious message. Or an even better idea would be to make it customisable to have any slogan you wanted engraved on it.

  11. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Onlinedad View Post
    All I was referring to was a previous post where someone mentioned something to the effect of, this must have been brought about by someone who rejects god, and therefore must be a liberal retard (libtard I believe was the exact word). I was trying to make the point that just because someone does not believe in god, nor does a person want religious references on merchandise that they buy, this should not automatically label them as a "Libtard".
    Very well, point taken. Non the less, I'd be willing to make a wager as to the political persuasion of the complainant.
    I believe the reason that the anti proselytizing law is in effect is because our govt/military does not have a missionary type mission statement. Our govt does not send our military in to spread the word of god, or any other religious message. Nor should it, ever.
    Agreed, however I still don't understand how this equates to proselytizing. It's numbers and letters (which don't even construct words) right along side of some other numbers and letters that are printed on the side of optical equipment. Damn good optical equipment by the way, which has had these characters printed on them for 30 years. How long has our military been using them? (I don't know that answer) We're just now getting upset over it? How sad is it that we would throw away such a great product (arguably the BEST if the military has chosen it in the first place) over something so minor that it could be addressed with a Dremel tool if the individual chose to do so.
    It is because of our freedom of religious choice that individual members of our military are allowed to wear religious medallions, or carry religious reading materials on their person...

    ...So we now could be looked at, from an outside source, as just another fanatical religious govt trying to oppress someone else's beliefs.
    By that logic, how is this practice any less questionable? Through propaganda, I am sure that the enemy is convinced that the Bibles and crosses that many of our military personnel choose to carry are actually issued by our government. Just as any rational party knows that to be untrue, they also know that our government didn't require the engraving or make the contract choice based on that feature.
    Or an even better idea would be to make it customizable to have any slogan you wanted engraved on it.
    Again, I can hardly believe that there isn't a Dremel tool floating around somewhere in Afghanistan. If someone doesn't like it there, it isn't that hard to get rid of.
    The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. - Thomas Jefferson

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