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    Quote Originally Posted by utimmer43 View Post
    russdiamond.org/issues Here is the link to his "Issues and Positions." The marriage part is about 2/3 down the page, but feel free to check out the rest of his page. He seems to be another one of those "rare breed" sensible politicians. If we get Sam Rohrer for Gov., and Diamond for Lt. Gov..... Just... WOW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itstjs View Post
    I may not make many friends saying this, but I am COMPLETELY [U]AGAINST[U] gay marriage. I dont believe its right. Marriage is for a man and woman. The bible clearly states that a man shalt not lay with another man. I believe that is true with women as well.
    Marriage, what the heck is the point in getting married if your same sex? Whats the point in being with someone of the same sex if you cant have children? It makes NO sense to me....I do no support it.
    Im a christian, and it just violates my beliefs, I am a republican, and it goes against my morals. Bleh...Cant beat a dead horse though can ya...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itstjs View Post
    I may not make many friends saying this, but I am COMPLETELY [U]AGAINST[U] gay marriage. I dont believe its right. Marriage is for a man and woman. The bible clearly states that a man shalt not lay with another man. I believe that is true with women as well.
    Marriage, what the heck is the point in getting married if your same sex? Whats the point in being with someone of the same sex if you cant have children? It makes NO sense to me....I do no support it.
    Im a christian, and it just violates my beliefs, I am a republican, and it goes against my morals. Bleh...Cant beat a dead horse though can ya...
    Standing up for godly principles doesn't always make us popular with society, Itstjs. It takes an individual who is strongly rooted in their spiritual beliefs to speak out. I'm currently reading The Holiness of God by R.C. Sproul. In the book, Sproul writes: "When a human being tries to consecrate what God has never consecrated, it is not a genuine act of consecration. It is an act of desecration." Seems to be statement that fits perfectly in this thread, don't you think? God consecrated Holy Matrimony between a man and a woman. He finds homosexuality an abomination. So, it's NOT judgmental to claim that any human being that would try to consecrate (make legal through marriage or civil union) anything that has been declared an abomination by our Heavenly Father (homosexuality) has committed an act of desecration. Case closed!
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    Marriage has been a societal stabilizer through the years, or should I say millennia. A comment was made about civil unions, which seems like a reasonable alternative. Like the hopeful PA Lt Gov said, equal protections is important, at least in this world! Changing the definition of marriage is a bad idea sociologically and spiritually. I know it offends some, but changing the definition of marriage just opens up the floodgates for just about anything to be married to anyone. It may sound silly, but if it happens, you can say you heard it here first!
    One is not homophobic because they are not in agreement with all things gay. That one is like being considered a racist because one does not agree with everything that an African American President does.
    And a choice? We all have choices and we all make choices. With very few exceptions, I find the genetic reason to be a cop-out. I am a metalhead, but considering myself genetically predisposed to heavy metal music is just plain silly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative Wife & Mom View Post
    Standing up for godly principles doesn't always make us popular with society, Itstjs. It takes an individual who is strongly rooted in their spiritual beliefs to speak out. I'm currently reading The Holiness of God by R.C. Sproul. In the book, Sproul writes: "When a human being tries to consecrate what God has never consecrated, it is not a genuine act of consecration. It is an act of desecration." Seems to be statement that fits perfectly in this thread, don't you think? God consecrated Holy Matrimony between a man and a woman. He finds homosexuality an abomination. So, it's NOT judgmental to claim that any human being that would try to consecrate (make legal through marriage or civil union) anything that has been declared an abomination by our Heavenly Father (homosexuality) has committed an act of desecration. Case closed!


    You're absolutely right Mom, God created marriage and sanctioned it between one man and one women. Homosexuality is, unlike other sin, an abomination. God hates all sin, but an abomination goes beyond hate of sin, it's disgusting and sickening to God. These people who foolishly argue and make all kinds of phony excuses are of the "world", they enjoy sin and have no desire to repent, that's why God created Hell. So like you said, "case closed".
    In America today, it's considered worse to judge evil than to do evil. Never let these Christophobic Liberal Progressive Purveyors of Infanticide & Homosexual Perversion who always manipulate truth to be hate speech set the terms in a debate.

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    Question Wow! What happened to my open minded peeps?

    I find myself constantly encouraging my anti-gun friends to "look at the numbers" when they express their anti-gun sympathies, and the bevy of untrue statistics that they have been brainwashed into believing by Brady & Company. At first blush, making guns illegal would naturally lead to reduced gun crimes, right? It's intuitive. However, the issue of gun control is significantly more complex, as we here know, and the real truth is in the numbers. As "counter intuitive" as the Brady people would have us believe, we know that gun control actually increases violent crime, both gun and non-gun related. I don't understand how folks who are so "with it" when it comes to second amendment defense could be so close minded when it comes to anything else.


    Quote Originally Posted by kn1080 View Post
    Im not comfortable at all with a same sex couple adopting a child. As much love as Im sure they can provide the child, the children could see this behavior and begin to think that this choice for a lifestyle is acceptable and moral. I really feel that we need to protect the children and assure they are shown an appropriate way of life.
    Okay, so if it can be shown that the sexual orientation of parents does not affect children as far as their sexual, self esteem, intelligence, or any of the myriad other factors that you might fear, would you be willing to admit that, while you disagree with the idea, you would not seek to prevent same sex adoption?

    Study: Same-Sex Parents Raise Well-Adjusted Kids
    What happens to kids raised by gay parents?
    Gays Raising Children


    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    I agree about the skin color but not sexual orientation. A person has no choice about his skin but contrary to what some think a person is not born homosexual. I think scripture is pretty clear on that. Romans is a good place to get the answer on that one.
    So, I assume that, since you are basing your judgement of a significant number of human beings on a single document, then your source material must be pretty close to infallible. Therefore, we should ALL accept scripture as an infallible source, right? Proverbs 30:5 (King James Version)Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him

    John 16:23 (King James Version) And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. (I keep asking, but no answer so far)
    Mark 16:17-18 (King James Version)And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
    They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. (Hey, HK, can I buy you a drink?)
    Matthew 4:8 (King James Version)Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (So, I guess the world really IS flat, right?)
    1 Samuel 16:14-23 (King James Version)But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee. (So God sends EVIL spirits into people? Does that mean God made them gay?)
    Deuteronomy 7:15 (King James Version) And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all them that hate thee. (Never met a sick Jew?)
    Ezekiel 20:25 (King James Version)Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live; (So even God admits that he makes mistakes, correct?)
    Exodus 22:20 (King James Version)He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. (I'm a Buddhist. Will you kill me if/when we meet? It would make me think twice before attending a USACarry picnic!)


    Quote Originally Posted by kn1080 View Post
    Homosexuality, ABSOLUTELY IS a choice. There is a point where they decided that this behavior was acceptable to them despite how wrong it is. We have made way too many accomodations for people with this disorder. There are even churches that they can go to now where they can pretend to be christians. What they need to do is spend some time with the lord and ask for a healing hand. If I am wrong and they are not consciously deciding to behave this poorly, perhapps we classify this as a mental illness and actually research and develop a treatment.
    So, taking you at your word, if it was shown that there WAS some biological process, and not simply a choice, does that mean you would retract your judgement? I mean, if it is a biological imperative, then it can not be helped, correct?

    New Evidence for Biological Influence on Gender
    The Science of Gaydar - New Research on Everything From Voice Pitch to Hair Whorl -- New York Magazine
    The Science of Gaydar - New Research on Everything From Voice Pitch to Hair Whorl -- New York Magazine


    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    Do not worry you will not find many here that disagrees with you. A few perhaps but very few.
    Well, though I like you guys, and I agree with you about lots of things, I am very proud to strongly disagree with you here. I have spent too much time with gay friends and associates to buy the "It's their choice!" line. Try having a true friend cry on your shoulder because he is a strong Christian, loves the Lord, and has prayed everyday that Jesus remove his gay thoughts and desires (I should have referred him to John 16:23, I guess). After high school we went our separate ways, but stayed in touch. He is now an independent business owner, a pastor (in one of those evil, gay lovin' churches), and the proud father of a boy and a girl with his partner of 22 years. In fact, his son is getting married this year.... to a girl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kn1080 View Post
    I think we woke up the "beast" in BoomBoy! LOL Deep breath buddy! Please dont hurt me. umm... buddy.... please put down the machette?!?
    Did someone say....... machete!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    We are not judging when it comes to morality or what is good or evil. God has made it perfectly clear so that we do not have to judge, just confirm.
    As I said in a previous post, we can give guidance and counseling but it becomes the individuals choice in the end. No human can say with certainty that anyone is condemned for morality, only God can do that. Judging them and turning our backs on them isn't what is taught in the Bible. People make decisions contrary to the Bible's teaching all the time. I guess it can be summed up in the following:

    The best verse is from Christ Himself - "Pick the pole from your own eye before picking at the splinter in your neighbor's" and as he said to the crowd wanting to stone the adulteress, "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomboy007 View Post
    I find myself constantly encouraging my anti-gun friends to "look at the numbers" when they express their anti-gun sympathies, and the bevy of untrue statistics that they have been brainwashed into believing by Brady & Company. At first blush, making guns illegal would naturally lead to reduced gun crimes, right? It's intuitive. However, the issue of gun control is significantly more complex, as we here know, and the real truth is in the numbers. As "counter intuitive" as the Brady people would have us believe, we know that gun control actually increases violent crime, both gun and non-gun related. I don't understand how folks who are so "with it" when it comes to second amendment defense could be so close minded when it comes to anything else.




    Okay, so if it can be shown that the sexual orientation of parents does not affect children as far as their sexual, self esteem, intelligence, or any of the myriad other factors that you might fear, would you be willing to admit that, while you disagree with the idea, you would not seek to prevent same sex adoption?

    Study: Same-Sex Parents Raise Well-Adjusted Kids
    What happens to kids raised by gay parents?
    Gays Raising Children




    So, I assume that, since you are basing your judgement of a significant number of human beings on a single document, then your source material must be pretty close to infallible. Therefore, we should ALL accept scripture as an infallible source, right? Proverbs 30:5 (King James Version)Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him

    John 16:23 (King James Version) And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. (I keep asking, but no answer so far)
    Mark 16:17-18 (King James Version)And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
    They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. (Hey, HK, can I buy you a drink?)
    Matthew 4:8 (King James Version)Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (So, I guess the world really IS flat, right?)
    1 Samuel 16:14-23 (King James Version)But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee. (So God sends EVIL spirits into people? Does that mean God made them gay?)
    Deuteronomy 7:15 (King James Version) And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all them that hate thee. (Never met a sick Jew?)
    Ezekiel 20:25 (King James Version)Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live; (So even God admits that he makes mistakes, correct?)
    Exodus 22:20 (King James Version)He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. (I'm a Buddhist. Will you kill me if/when we meet? It would make me think twice before attending a USACarry picnic!)




    So, taking you at your word, if it was shown that there WAS some biological process, and not simply a choice, does that mean you would retract your judgement? I mean, if it is a biological imperative, then it can not be helped, correct?

    New Evidence for Biological Influence on Gender
    The Science of Gaydar - New Research on Everything From Voice Pitch to Hair Whorl -- New York Magazine
    The Science of Gaydar - New Research on Everything From Voice Pitch to Hair Whorl -- New York Magazine




    Well, though I like you guys, and I agree with you about lots of things, I am very proud to strongly disagree with you here. I have spent too much time with gay friends and associates to buy the "It's their choice!" line. Try having a true friend cry on your shoulder because he is a strong Christian, loves the Lord, and has prayed everyday that Jesus remove his gay thoughts and desires (I should have referred him to John 16:23, I guess). After high school we went our separate ways, but stayed in touch. He is now an independent business owner, a pastor (in one of those evil, gay lovin' churches), and the proud father of a boy and a girl with his partner of 22 years. In fact, his son is getting married this year.... to a girl.
    Guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
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