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    Yes, very interesting how media and the www are used to spread propaganda and deception these days.

    Come get your fill here at USACarry!

    Looks like the FUDsters have been properly exposed once again. Dang trolls....

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    Looks like a distinctly different time of day from the original "arrest" footage. This new footage is clearly at night, the sun having gone down. The original footage was still in the bright light of day. So first, it's not the same incident. As to the footage of the arrest, it's just of that, the arrest. The first time I see any of David Wood's group, they're already cuffed. I have no information from this new footage what they were arrested for, and neither does anyone else, apparently.

    Now, which footage was first? If the arrest footage was first and then the footage Acts 17 Ap. released was later, then it makes complete sense that the police would mob known troublemakers which they had had to arrest the night before to prevent them from causing trouble again.

    If the arrest footage was after the police mob and ejection to the 5 block radius, then the Acts 17 Ap. people are liars, having said they stayed outside of the festival perimeter.
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    CIB, I don't know if you are a videophile or otherwise technically versed in that field, but lighting, different equipment characteristics and of course the shooter's skills WRT to positioning and equipment setup can all contribute to your "footage analysis" perception. I'd be careful about trying to draw any conclusions in that area without alot more information to back it up.

    I also think there's alot of speculation going on here. The only rational explanation I see from what's been presented revolves around one simple question: What were they arrested for? The simple fact the christians try to leverage this with their title says it all for me.

    The rock bottom truth is still out there somewhere. Arrest record should be public information....

  5. Christian ministers challenge arrests at Arab fest | detnews.com | The Detroit News

    The Thomas More Law Center, an Ann Arbor-based Christian legal defense organization, has agreed to represent four evangelists who were arrested on charges of disturbing the peace Friday night at the Arab International Festival.

    Dearborn police officers violated their free speech rights when their video cameras, which were used to record conversations with festival-goers, were confiscated, said lead attorney Robert Muise.

    "Our mission is to defend the religious liberty of Christians," Muise said. "When the police are grabbing cameras and shutting people down, that's a problem for everyone."

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    Muise faxed a letter Monday to Dearborn Police Chief Ronald Haddad requesting the return of his clients' cameras and tapes.

    The Police Department has not responded to Muise's request.

    The four -- Negeen Mayel of California; Nabeel Qureshi of Virginia; Paul Rezkalla, a New York University student; and David Wood of New York -- were released on bail Saturday. They will plead not guilty and ask for a jury trial, Muise said, at an initial hearing on July 12 in the 19th District Court.

    "These Christian missionaries were exercising their constitutional rights to free speech and free exercise of religion," said Richard Thompson, president and chief counsel of the law center in a statement released Tuesday.

    Haddad would not comment on the case.

    Calls to Fay Beydoun, executive director of the American Arab Chamber of Commerce, the festival producer, were not returned.

    From The Detroit News: Christian ministers challenge arrests at Arab fest | detnews.com | The Detroit News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    Not a Muslim, not a Democrat.

    Keep tryin', there must me some derrogatory label you can get me to agree on. You see Sheldon, that's the problem with bigots, whether they be religiously, politically, racially whatever way they are motivated, they are fundamentally all the same. Their entire existence is oversimplified to the basic principle that if you're not like me, then by definition, you're bad, you're wrong (wrong opinion? ), you're whatever, you suck. Not a very smart way to be, really. Consider yourself properly labelled.

    Enjoy.
    So there you go again refusing to comment on or acknowledge the facts and are name calling.... Two thoughs on that....

    1. When loosing an discussion Liberals tend to try and divert attention by shouting, swearing, or both....

    2. You to date have distorted posts, attempted to re write posts to suit your view, have attempt to prove by fallacy, discarded the US constitution if it does not suit your point of view, denied basic Rights exist under same, resorted to name calling, ignored the primary point of posts refusing comment, all the while attempting to re direct the thread with your bashing of individuals attempting to goad them into stooping to your level of hate all things having to do with a fundamental religion... Wow that just shouts left wing liberal.....

    So if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck... must be a liberal, but you are right on one point... "Not a very smart way to be, really. Consider yourself properly labeled." As to being told I suck by a liberal, I consider that a huge compliment, thank you very much....
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    C&L: Fine. Let's see your video analysis. Let's see a side-by-side comparison showing the same actions, the same locations, and the same time of day from one footage to the other.

    I maintain it's two different times of day, if not two completely different days.
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    I don't put much credibility in either video, one way or the other. The arrest record and now apparently subsequent court case should prove out what I've been saying all along.

    We'll see....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyInBlue View Post
    Looks like a distinctly different time of day from the original "arrest" footage. This new footage is clearly at night, the sun having gone down. The original footage was still in the bright light of day. So first, it's not the same incident. As to the footage of the arrest, it's just of that, the arrest. The first time I see any of David Wood's group, they're already cuffed. I have no information from this new footage what they were arrested for, and neither does anyone else, apparently.

    Now, which footage was first? If the arrest footage was first and then the footage Acts 17 Ap. released was later, then it makes complete sense that the police would mob known troublemakers which they had had to arrest the night before to prevent them from causing trouble again.

    If the arrest footage was after the police mob and ejection to the 5 block radius, then the Acts 17 Ap. people are liars, having said they stayed outside of the festival perimeter.
    By the shadows in the first video I would put it around 1500 but the second and third closer to 2200, hours after the initial confrontation, which in the latter two were mostly obscured with the highly biased comments on his voice over.

    In his posting of the so called rehearsal is but its a statement after the fact, and the poster of the second and third did a voice over to obscure...

    As to trying to make the Muslims look bad, you don't have to work to do that or look very far, just tune in the evening news....
    "The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century
    "Don't be so open minded that your brains fall out!" Father John Corapi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheldon View Post
    So there you go again refusing to comment on or acknowledge the facts and are name calling.... Two thoughs on that....

    1. When loosing an discussion Liberals tend to try and divert attention by shouting, swearing, or both....

    2. You to date have distorted posts, attempted to re write posts to suit your view, have attempt to prove by fallacy, discarded the US constitution if it does not suit your point of view, denied basic Rights exist under same, resorted to name calling, ignored the primary point of posts refusing comment, all the while attempting to re direct the thread with your bashing of individuals attempting to goad them into stooping to your level of hate all things having to do with a fundamental religion... Wow that just shouts left wing liberal.....

    So if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck... must be a liberal, but you are right on one point... "Not a very smart way to be, really. Consider yourself properly labeled." As to being told I suck by a liberal, I consider that a huge compliment, thank you very much....
    Sheldon have you ever wondered why some of the Christian haters label Christians bigots when they themselves hate Christians, and Christianity? Don't know about you but that sounds like bigotry to me. Is that not what is referred to as hypocrisy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    I don't put much credibility in either video, one way or the other. The arrest record and now apparently subsequent court case should prove out what I've been saying all along.

    We'll see....
    How lame. Two posts prior, C&L was exulting that all the FUDsters had been un-masked. Then, CIB lays down the smack on him and suddenly he doesn't put any credibility in either video. Textbook troll, just here to make trouble.
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

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