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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight View Post
    You do realize that the world being flooded over happened millions of years before man ever existed, right? And the whole "weeks in God's time" is a bad argument since time is a manmade creation of measurement and God is supposed to be unconstrained by the dynamics of our universe. (Think about it. Do you really have a schedule if you transcend time and space and have no beginning and have no end?).
    You need to read world history a tad bit closer, the great flood was more recent than a million years, and multiple scientist speculate it has something to do with the world tilt angle which use to be at 0 degrees WRT the sun. Popular theory holds a huge meteor impact in the ocean caused the tilt, of I believe 15 degrees and eventually it stabilized at the the present angle, and the oceans sloshed all over the planet. Further this date is much more recent time within the last 30-40,000 years, this time is at present a estimate only.

    The passage of Time is not a fixed unit, set 2 precision clocks on earth, send one into orbit for any extended period, bring it back and there will be a significant difference between the two. So if we can prove and NASA has that passage of time is not fixed, and is in accordance to your location...

    That Scientist have stated (ever watch NOVA or Discovery) that multiple dimensions exist outside our reality...

    So then just why is it so hard to speculate that God exists in a realm that is outside our normal time continuum?


    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight View Post
    And then there are some people who never asked to be born. Some people are born to crack prostitute mothers and grow up on the streets starving and afraid. Children grow up having to sell their bodies just to stay alive while your typical overweight WASP family goes into a giant church in suburbia to sing praises and hand over tons of money to maintain this dwelling that could be put to better use.

    No, I don't think God deserves praise if he allows even one child to go through this kind of existence while others live in luxury who have probably never worked for their living.
    So you are saying someone who is not conceived to a Ozzie and Harriet home should never been born, that God should just kill them outright to save them the grief of being alive in a not ideal world.
    Life is what you make of it, nothing is just freely handed to you,( that is unless you are a democrat and expect free stuff for nothing). Again it's the free will thing that steps in here, so the mother accepted evil, that may or may not be the kids path in life through strength of character they could become anything they want, but it is their choice not hers.

    True story time again, there is this kid that I accept like a son born of to a cousin that married low life white trash. He was raised in the give me free stuff, and why work when I can get free stuff environment. His life was miserable, wore out cloths n shoes, hungry most of the time so dad could drink and chain smoke, dirty, squalid home, stank like cat piss real bad, to the point it made my eyes watter any time I went there, terrible schools with drug dealers, high crime, street gangs, and not inspired teachers who just passed the kids to get them out of the way.....
    I would on occasion take him under my wing as a young child and show him the other side of the coin, kind of like the 'Big Brothers (one outstanding group) association" it was only a few times a year she would let me do this but I persisted.....

    When he turned 18 he had two paths to chose...

    1. stay home, join a gang sell dope,and become White trash....

    2. Get out of dodge, go make something of his life....

    He chose NO 2, through strength of character he joined the army,(much to his mother chagrin) became a lifer, is a Sargent is stationed in Iraq (3rd tour there) now, has saved many lives in service to his country, and will be retiring in about a year. So you are saying although he never chose to be born, lived in misery as a child, God should have just out and killed him.... Real bad thought process that.....
    "The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century
    "Don't be so open minded that your brains fall out!" Father John Corapi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheldon View Post

    True story time again, there is this kid that I accept like a son born of to a cousin that married low life white trash. He was raised in the give me free stuff, and why work when I can get free stuff environment. His life was miserable, wore out cloths n shoes, hungry most of the time so dad could drink and chain smoke, dirty, squalid home, stank like cat piss real bad, to the point it made my eyes watter any time I went there, terrible schools with drug dealers, high crime, street gangs, and not inspired teachers who just passed the kids to get them out of the way.....
    I would on occasion take him under my wing as a young child and show him the other side of the coin, kind of like the 'Big Brothers (one outstanding group) association" it was only a few times a year she would let me do this but I persisted.....

    When he turned 18 he had two paths to chose...

    1. stay home, join a gang sell dope,and become White trash....

    2. Get out of dodge, go make something of his life....

    He chose NO 2, through strength of character he joined the army,(much to his mother chagrin) became a lifer, is a Sargent is stationed in Iraq (3rd tour there) now, has saved many lives in service to his country, and will be retiring in about a year. So you are saying although he never chose to be born, lived in misery as a child, God should have just out and killed him.... Real bad thought process that.....
    Heartwarming story, Sheldon. Please tell your nephew that "Mom" thanks him for his service to our country. He is an American hero and he has my sincerest respect and gratitude.
    Conservative Wife & Mom -- I'm a Conservative Christian-American with dual citizenship...the Kingdom of God is my 1st home and the U.S.A. is my 2nd.

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    Well stated Brother...

    Peace...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Sheldon View Post
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    Wrong, archaeological evidence clearly shows millions of years, long before man.

    And like I said, God is supposed to transcend time since he is omnipotent, omnipresent, and immortal.

    And your newphew's story is touching, but he's the exception, not the rule. There are still millions more children who live in unforgiving circumstances beyond their control.

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    Sheldon:
    Thank you for your nephew's story it is touching. My husband and I were not blessed with the greatest of circumstances. I guess we would have been considered to be the white trash by many. My husbands father deserted his wife and five sons and my mother-in-law raised then into good upstanding citizens.
    In my case my step-father was a LEO that was shot in the line of duty and he became mentally and physically abusive and drank. I also believe he was WWII PTSD before they ever thought of this condition. He drank a bottle of lye and died when I was in the service. We were homeless at times and when we were able to finally stay in a place I became the surrogate mother to my two younger brothers. One now a teacher and the other a IC Tech. One adopted two children and the other has two nice daughters.
    My husband worked in a High Security job while I was in the Air Force. We found that it was possible to make a better life for ourselves.
    We have been blessed with two natural children and seven more that God blessed us with. The hoops the government makes you jump through makes it hard to help. Yet we believe that individuals make the difference and have found that when people become personally involved with the needs of others change is possible. Governments just tend to make the problems harder.
    So never apologize or let other make you feel bad when you believe that you can make a difference. YOU CAN AND WE ALL CAN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheldon View Post
    You need to read world history a tad bit closer, the great flood was more recent than a million years, and multiple scientist speculate it has something to do with the world tilt angle which use to be at 0 degrees WRT the sun. Popular theory holds a huge meteor impact in the ocean caused the tilt, of I believe 15 degrees and eventually it stabilized at the the present angle, and the oceans sloshed all over the planet. Further this date is much more recent time within the last 30-40,000 years, this time is at present a estimate only.

    The passage of Time is not a fixed unit, set 2 precision clocks on earth, send one into orbit for any extended period, bring it back and there will be a significant difference between the two. So if we can prove and NASA has that passage of time is not fixed, and is in accordance to your location...

    That Scientist have stated (ever watch NOVA or Discovery) that multiple dimensions exist outside our reality...

    So then just why is it so hard to speculate that God exists in a realm that is outside our normal time continuum?





    So you are saying someone who is not conceived to a Ozzie and Harriet home should never been born, that God should just kill them outright to save them the grief of being alive in a not ideal world.
    Life is what you make of it, nothing is just freely handed to you,( that is unless you are a democrat and expect free stuff for nothing). Again it's the free will thing that steps in here, so the mother accepted evil, that may or may not be the kids path in life through strength of character they could become anything they want, but it is their choice not hers.

    True story time again, there is this kid that I accept like a son born of to a cousin that married low life white trash. He was raised in the give me free stuff, and why work when I can get free stuff environment. His life was miserable, wore out cloths n shoes, hungry most of the time so dad could drink and chain smoke, dirty, squalid home, stank like cat piss real bad, to the point it made my eyes watter any time I went there, terrible schools with drug dealers, high crime, street gangs, and not inspired teachers who just passed the kids to get them out of the way.....
    I would on occasion take him under my wing as a young child and show him the other side of the coin, kind of like the 'Big Brothers (one outstanding group) association" it was only a few times a year she would let me do this but I persisted.....

    When he turned 18 he had two paths to chose...

    1. stay home, join a gang sell dope,and become White trash....

    2. Get out of dodge, go make something of his life....

    He chose NO 2, through strength of character he joined the army,(much to his mother chagrin) became a lifer, is a Sargent is stationed in Iraq (3rd tour there) now, has saved many lives in service to his country, and will be retiring in about a year. So you are saying although he never chose to be born, lived in misery as a child, God should have just out and killed him.... Real bad thought process that.....
    Great story. Thanks for sharing it with us. Also you are correct about the timing of the flood. there are many archeologists, scientists and geologists that are Christians and do not buy into that millions of years old thing. There is a geologists that goes to my church that teaches at an area college and does work for the city and state as well. He is very interesting to listen to on these subjects.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative Wife & Mom View Post
    Please reel it in, Guys. You're playing right into his hands and reacting exactly like he wants you to! Don't counter attack...just ignore! Our invisible God can fight His own battles!
    So right you are Mom. I've just put everyone of them on my ignore list. It's great not to have to read their mindless rhetoric, and not have to respond to their foolish level of third grade questioning. If others would do the same, we can once again start sharing in some intelligent, mature, and rewarding discussion, as it should be.
    ~ HEAVEN Has A Wall And A Strict Immigration Policy - HELL Has Open Borders ~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    So right you are Mom. I've just put everyone of them on my ignore list. It's great not to have to read their mindless rhetoric, and not have to respond to their foolish level of third grade questioning. If others would do the same, we can once again start sharing in some intelligent, mature, and rewarding discussion, as it should be.
    I hope we can get back to that soon because all this immature drivel is getting veeeery tiresome.
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    So right you are Mom. I've just put everyone of them on my ignore list. It's great not to have to read their mindless rhetoric, and not have to respond to their foolish level of third grade questioning. If others would do the same, we can once again start sharing in some intelligent, mature, and rewarding discussion, as it should be.

    +1. The more of us that put them on the ignore list the better. Perhaps they will grow tired of trying to annoy everyone if there is no one left to see and thus be annoyed. If there is no one to respond to their stuff perhaps they can find some other place to go and aggregate. people.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

  11. There is no heaven of glory bright, and no hell where sinners roast. Here and now is our day of torment! Here and now is our day of joy! Here and now is our opportunity! Choose ye this day, this hour, for no redeemer liveth!" [ The Satanic Bible: The Book of Satan IV:2 ]
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