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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    More FUD from a Christian ultra-conservative infotainment site. REAL research proves this fact.

    FACTS talk, FUD walks.
    I for one would love to be enlightened. Would you care to point out the FUD and replace it with the FACTS????
    "When Government fears the people, it's liberty. When people fear the Government, it's tyranny."
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    I am against any form of religious extremism. If you look at any religious faith, with very few exceptions, conquering and converting heathens or infidels was a basic foundation. It is one of the main reasons the Spanish Conquistadors and others traveled to many lands. Of course the riches didn't hurt either. It is not the average Muslim we need to worry about but the extremist that is causing the faith a bad reputation. If the Aztecs or Mayans were still around my bet is they would speak very negatively about Christianity. Again I say it is not the faith but the follower of the faith that corrupts into something it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimberPB View Post
    I for one would love to be enlightened. Would you care to point out the FUD and replace it with the FACTS????
    OK.

    Brigitte Gabriel was born in the Marjayoun District in Lebanon to a Christian family. She frequently speaks at American conservative-leaning organizations such as The Heritage Foundation, Christians United for Israel, Evangelicals and Jewish groups, and says she gives voice to "what many in America are thinking but afraid to say out loud, for fear of being labeled a racist, bigot, Islamophobic, or intolerant." Stephen Lee, the publicist at St. Martins Press for Gabriel’s latest book, called her views "extreme".

    Quote Originally Posted by Brigitte Gabriel
    If we don't wake up and challenge our Muslim community to take action against the terrorists within it...
    This would be akin to asking the members of USA Carry to take action against the trolls or trollees (pick your perspective). They've demonstrated beyond any shadow of a doubt it just doesn't work that way. If it was so simple why has it not been done? Why has the middle east been war torn for centuries?

    Anyone care to take a stab at it? I'm not going to spell it out for you. Again.

    Just to reiterate, that whole piece pasted in there by Glockster is a textbook piece of FUD, targeted at those of you inclined to believe her idiocy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    OK.

    Brigitte Gabriel was born in the Marjayoun District in Lebanon to a Christian family. She frequently speaks at American conservative-leaning organizations such as The Heritage Foundation, Christians United for Israel, Evangelicals and Jewish groups, and says she gives voice to "what many in America are thinking but afraid to say out loud, for fear of being labeled a racist, bigot, Islamophobic, or intolerant." Stephen Lee, the publicist at St. Martins Press for Gabrielís latest book, called her views "extreme".
    And by the same logic when you voice your opinion we who read it could construe it as or call it extreme. That is opinion not fact... Hummm, FUD...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    This would be akin to asking the members of USA Carry to take action against the trolls or trollees (pick your perspective). They've demonstated beyond any shadow of a doubt it just doesn't work that way. If it was so simple why has it not been done? Why has the middle east been war torn for centuries?
    We have as members of USACarry taken measures within the confines of the site rules to attempt to take action against trolls. I noted that Pewbs AKA Armedfetus was banned. That I'm sure, was a collective action by members of the site to deal with the issue. Hummm Fact...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    Anyone care to take a stab at it? I'm not going to spell it out for you. Again.
    Oh please do... We love when the FUD is dispelled and the facts (according to you) are provided to enlighten us... The true reason... The human condition. Individuals who think freely will never get along with individuals who think freely... We discuss, perhaps at some point we disagree then we argue and
    at some point we stick our flag in the ground and stand by our opinion. Some times a compromise is reached between the feuding parties. Perhaps it lasts a long time sometimes not so long, but it is a compromise and both parties see it as such. The resentment lingers and any attempt to encroach further will bring the fight back to a head. I know, I know real grim... I'm an opinionated realist...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    Just to reiterate, that whole piece pasted in there by Glockster is a textbook piece of FUD, targeted at those of you inclined to believe her idiocy.
    No, it is nothing more than the opinion of an individual with whom you find fault and disagree with. So it's called FUD... Hummm... Opinion...

    As Sheldon has asked, lets keep the topic at the forefront of the discussion.

    Mosque or no mosque at Ground Zero in NY? Perhaps a simple poll to reduce the semantics and keep the asking for opinions to simply that?

    Peace...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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    What in the world is the matter with people? I have posted some pretty long posts on here before and tried to keep them factual and about what was being discussed.

    And then... I log on today. My word. Like a bunch of little kids with "My Dad/Mom can beat up YOUR Dad/Mom" envy. My question is: WHY?

    Most of the 'Just say NO' thread wasn't even about the subject of the thread from what I read. It was just a bunch of people screaming back and forth at each other. Again: WHY?

    I saw things like:

    I am also not an athiest. I simply don't know if their is a god or not.
    Atheist/atheism sort of means you do NOT believe in a God or Gods. You are probably Agnostic, believing in agnosticism which means you don't know one way or the other and really don't care.

    Sort of like "I am atheist, there is NO God." vs "I am agnostic, I don't know if there is a God or not (and really don't care)."

    Many of us older gents (I am 45) did not study typing in school. But in person, we can be very well spoken.
    Well, first off, you aren't an 'older' gent. You have 15 or 20 years before you have to start saying that. LOL
    AND, probably no one cares if you took typing in High School or not. It doesn't enter into the picture. You WILL be judged on how well you type and how well you do spelling and grammar. No excuses. This is a new age, even for young guys like me. No one really cares what schooling we had or didn't have, they judge us by what they 'see' on the screen/page in front of them. I took two years of typing a generation ahead of you, so it was probably available at your school and people on these forums will judge your typing (along with everything else). Just part of life these days.

    You just wasted a solid amount of time on a post that I really didn't bother to read, AT ALL.
    Why in the world would this person even be in the thread if they weren't reading the posts?

    Post Script:Help me out, I always get their & there mixed up. What is the rule again???
    Ah, it does mean different things, that is where the fun comes in. Don't forget "they're" also. Hummm, one sentence would be: "Their car should be over there but it appears they're late." And they all sound the same. LOL

    You will never learn anything as you are already convinced you know the answer.
    I remember 20-25 years ago when I would print up posters there was one I hung in my shop about that very thing. Something like:

    Teenagers! NOW is the time. Quick, leave home while you still know it ALL.

    I just copied some of that off the last page, not caring who it was posted by. Although, I did see something that made me think. Someone posted something like "This is just a gun forum, who cares if the spelling or grammar is correct?"

    If I stop to think about that, I would think "Isn't what I am posting worth doing a spell and grammar check on? Maybe reading my post twice to see if it looks okay?"

    If it ISN'T, then I have to ask myself "WHY am I posting it then?"

    Do we REALLY think of what we are doing? Do we REALLY tell ourselves "This IS so IMPORTANT that I HAVE to post it, whether I do a spell or grammar check on it or not."

    I can't ever remember me posting info that was so important that I couldn't take the time to do a spell/grammar check on it, maybe read it twice.

    That is a question I ask myself before every post I make. I always try to make sure things are spelled correctly because I know I don't type real well.

    The question to be asked is:"Do I have enough pride and respect for MYSELF to run a quick spell/grammar check while I read through this a second time before I post it."

    Did I see someone state "But I speak well." Yes, that is true.

    BUT... you ARE speaking with your keyboard NOW, in front of maybe THOUSANDS of people... with your keyboard. It is good to speak well with it also. Maybe more so, because those people can go back and LOOK at "how" you "spoke" in your post.

    These are just some of what I have seen.

    Oops. From looking at that thread, members on here have NOT been acting very adult.

    Would YOU want to have someone you are trying to make an impression on for example for a job bid or an advancement to read THAT thread and have them ask YOU "What is this all about? WHO are those people?"

    Would you be PROUD to tell that person (Boss or whomever) in a LOUD voice; "Oh, yeah, that is ummmm, me and my ummmmm, FRIENDS discussing those Muslims. We sure showed those SOB's."

    Ummm, probably NOT, right?

    We ARE on 'display' in these forums 24/7 people, out there in the electronic world for everyone to see how YOU display yourself to others through your posts.

    These are just some of my thoughts, it has been a while since I have been on here.
    Please, no one take what I have posted personal. I never even looked to see what names were with the comments. They were just used as examples.

    Enjoy... I DO, except sometimes when it looks like a bunch of smart-ass teenagers screaming and hollering at each other.

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    Just put half cocked and lock on ignore and do just that. You can not reason with him so don't try.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6shootercarry View Post
    Perhaps a simple poll...
    That would only prove the foregone conclusion that the majority of people who participate in this type thread here are religious bigots.

    And I suppose, preempt the similarly forgone conclusion that presented with facts and logic, the religious zealot crowd wishing to advance these infalmmatory hate-filled diatribes, are exposed for what they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    Just put half cocked and lock on ignore and do just that. You can not reason with him so don't try.
    You might want to read that previous post again - slowly for better comprehension.

    I couldn't agree more with Oregonvet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    Just put half cocked and lock on ignore and do just that. You can not reason with him so don't try.
    Just put half Hk4U on ignore and do just that. You can not reason with him, so just don't try.


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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    Just put half Hk4U on ignore and do just that. You can not reason with him, so just don't try.

    I saw a slim trail guess someone I had on ignore had a comment.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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