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    @#$# $##$ gov't spending!!!

    Ugh. I hate taxes.

    Why am I paying for people to sit on ass in the HUD hood, have babies and eat garbage, a habit which will require further expenditures down the line to unclog their completely solid arteries in a state-sponsored hospital? If not that, Tyvek might shoot Krylon (well, maybe...shooting sideways is always a hit-or-miss thing) with the Cheapest Ammo In the World, which will require a 2-month ICU stay for Krylon and then a lifelong stay in the carrot patch, hooked up to the Most Expensive Machines In the World.

    There should be a minimum work requirement of some kind for welfare - X number of hrs per month picking up on the highways, painting public buildings, or if you can't do that, just do ANYTHING...be a greeter at the DMV. There is currently NO incentive for people to not receive a government check in the mail every month. Medicaid should also have a physical maintenance component. In Britain, they make people under the gov't system meet some weight/blood pressure metrics, and if they don't, then they have to go to outdoor aerobics classes on the weekends. Our entitlement benefits are even more stupid than they would otherwise be, because we attach absolutely no sense of responsibility to it. It's all need-based, so you just sign up and get it.

    I study, go to work, work out and eat sensibly - and as if they hadn't already leeched enough, I have to watch out for those same people thugging it up, out to kill me for my car or something shiny.

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    This seems to be the theme of life for many people in our lovely Republic. When did being personally accountable and responsible for your actions go out of style? Why would any adult want someone else to be responsible for their health, happiness and success? When you figure out the answer let me know....

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    Many people have figured out they can do better by living off the goverment, than they can working a low income job. Sadly, guess which they choose to do.
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    What is going on here?


    How Long Do We Have?

    About the time our original thirteen state adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at
    the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government."

    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public
    treasury."

    "From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

    "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years."

    "During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    1. from bondage to spiritual faith;
    2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
    3. from courage to liberty;
    4. from liberty to abundance;
    5. from abundance to complacency;
    6. from complacency to apathy;
    7. from apathy to dependence;
    8. From dependence back into bondage"
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    i agree..

    however some people need the help. i have a autistic child ad he recieves SSi an medicaid. we could never afford his meds otherwise. and my wife and i both work, pay taxes, blah,blah. but this business of sitting on your butt eating pork rinds and big red , watching oprah, with the only goal in life is to create more without working, does not work for me. there should be some responsibility somewhere. i do excuse those who are mentally/physically unable to work. i believe in helping those who aren't able to help themselves. This is biblical. but if you can work and live/continue to live off the sweat of others, no good. but like grandma used to say.." that's alright. they'll get theirs one day."

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    Quote Originally Posted by boris View Post
    however some people need the help. i have a autistic child ad he recieves SSi an medicaid. we could never afford his meds otherwise. and my wife and i both work, pay taxes, blah,blah. but this business of sitting on your butt eating pork rinds and big red , watching oprah, with the only goal in life is to create more without working, does not work for me. there should be some responsibility somewhere. i do excuse those who are mentally/physically unable to work. i believe in helping those who aren't able to help themselves. This is biblical. but if you can work and live/continue to live off the sweat of others, no good. but like grandma used to say.." that's alright. they'll get theirs one day."

    And^^here's the problem. boris and his family have demonstrated that they are entirely deserving of being provided the assistance they need to take care of their family by doing just as he describes. How do we set up a 'deserving of aid test' that is properly just and honestly administered. Government has repeatedly proven itself inept at that task.

    boris: I have friends who teach autistic children and you've got a tough task there. Keep it up, but know that when you see discussions like this, most of us are with you on this. We have no desire to abandon good, hard-working families who need some help to deal with what life has given them. Most who complain here are angry at those who manipulate the system and could be assistors rather than assisted if they had the ambition of a normal adult.
    People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.--River Tam

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDS View Post
    And^^here's the problem. boris and his family have demonstrated that they are entirely deserving of being provided the assistance they need to take care of their family by doing just as he describes. How do we set up a 'deserving of aid test' that is properly just and honestly administered. Government has repeatedly proven itself inept at that task.

    boris: I have friends who teach autistic children and you've got a tough task there. Keep it up, but know that when you see discussions like this, most of us are with you on this. We have no desire to abandon good, hard-working families who need some help to deal with what life has given them. Most who complain here are angry at those who manipulate the system and could be assistors rather than assisted if they had the ambition of a normal adult.
    I agree. I have no problem helping someone that helps themselves. As I am sure most of you are aware I am a pharmacist. On a daily basis I see mentally challenged people who maintain jobs, people that only have one leg, and people that truly do the best they can. These unfortunate people can receive no help with their medications from the government. Then there are the people that simply do not want to work. They just want to sit at home and take their "meds". They have to pay for nothing themselves. It is very frustrating to see these unfortunate, deserving people not get their medications because they can not afford them. Yet the other group sits at home in an opiate related haze all the time.
    David

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    This is the main reason communism will never work.:7:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]In order to rally people, governments need enemies. They want us to be afraid, to hate, so we will rally behind them. And if they don't have a real enemy, they'll invent one in order to mobilize us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boris View Post
    however some people need the help. i have a autistic child ad he recieves SSi an medicaid. we could never afford his meds otherwise.
    Definitely - and these are the ppl I don't mind helping out with tax dollars. That's what the system should be for, instead of those who just can't pull themselves away from Springer.
    Silent Running, by Mike and the Mechanics

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    I have to say that I am onboard here.Boris,as previously stated,it is pretty clear to all of us that you and your wife are not community sponges just out to suck up all you can get.Note:I said you are NOT.I know what it is like to have a sucky job.When my sun was born we had medicaid for him and my wife.We were both working at a fast food place.We got the help when we needed it.Now,we don't.I am working a good job and we are contributing to the community.But there are those who simply don't want to contribute.I don't mind helping people who need it.I do mind helping people who don't need it.
    Give everybody guns.
    Natural selection will cull out the idiots.

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