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    Will we ever build a fence? Sure when H_ _ _ freezes over

    Just in case you thought we might build a fence.


    Remember the fence Congress voted to build... the one that's supposed to help secure our border and make it more difficult for illegal aliens to sneak into the United States?

    It appeared that our government was finally going to start building it.

    In fact, Congress even authorized the Department of Homeland Security to waive certain laws that might get in the way of this project, which is so vital to our national security.

    At the beginning of this month -- after finally opening up its tool box and choosing its best saws and hammers -- Homeland Security announced its intention to use the power Congress gave the agency to waive provisions of a couple of those laws.

    But hold your horses... not so fast!

    With clenched teeth and flaring nostrils, 14 of the loudest left-wing Members of Congress have rushed to the U.S. Supreme Court, shouting that the building of the fence would violate the Clean Air Act and the Clean Drinking Water Act. Vital species of flora and fauna would disappear. The world would come to an end.

    In other words, 14 left-wing Members of Congress -- after giving Homeland Security the authority to do something -- just ran kicking and screaming to the courts to stop the very thing that Congress authorized!

    Are these 14 Members of Congress confused? Hardly!

    If legislative slight-of-hand doesn't work, try judicial tyranny. Perhaps they think they can find five Justices who willing to override the will of the people.

    It would not be first time!

    But what is even more incredible is how these 14 Members of Congress suddenly morphed into greenies -- worried about the environment and a list of endangered species that would supposedly be displaced if the border fence is built.

    John Conyers of Michigan said, "Our responsibility to be stewards of the earth cannot be thrown aside for the sake of an ill-conceived border fence."

    One cannot help but wonder if Conyers felt that strongly about the environment BEFORE he saw it as a means to stop the border fence.

    Then again, everyone knows that the species the 14 are really trying to protect is the Immigrantus Illegalis.

    Use the hyperlink below to send your urgent and personalized Blast Fax messages to President George W. Bush, the GOP leadership in Congress and these 14 left-wing Members of Congress.

    Let them know the American people will not be fooled by this lame, idiotic and transparent attempt to thwart the will of the American people. Demand that they put a stop to the parliamentary tricks, lies and legal maneuvers.

    And demand that our leaders in Congress show some backbone and reproach those whose sly attempts to subvert the democratic process could further weaken our nation's border security.

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    I'll Huff And I'll Puff...

    "The blanket waiver of laws like the Clean Air Act and the Safe Drinking Water Act is a clear and disturbing abuse of the secretary's discretion," intoned Congressman John D. Dingell.

    Congressman Bennie G. Thompson -- forgetting perhaps, that Congress had itself approved the waivers -- harrumphed: "The American people entrust Congress to ensure that the laws of this land are faithfully executed not excused by the Executive Branch."

    What about the "laws of the land" regarding immigration and border enforcement?

    For once, however, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, kept the eyes of Americans focused on the true target:

    "Criminal activity at the border does not stop for endless debate or protracted litigation. Congress and the American public have been adamant that they want and expect border security. We're serious about delivering it, and these waivers will enable important security projects to keep moving forward."

    The survival of the nation is more important than the displacement of a few species, though the two are by no means mutually exclusive.

    Use the hyperlink below to send your urgent and personalized Blast Fax messages to President George W. Bush, the GOP leadership in Congress and these 14 left-wing Members of Congress.

    Let them know the American people will not be fooled by this lame, idiotic and transparent attempt to thwart the will of the American people. Demand that they put a stop to the parliamentary tricks, lies and legal maneuvers.

    And demand that our leaders in Congress show some backbone and reproach those whose sly attempts to subvert the democratic process could further weaken our nation's border security.

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    Some Republicans Get Into The Act

    Meanwhile on the Republican side, Governor Rick Perry of Texas is likewise trying to block the building of the fence, dismissing it as "a preposterous idea."

    "The only thing a wall would possibly accomplish," he said, a smirk in his voice, "is to help the ladder business."

    Speaking to the Dallas Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Perry actually expressed his opposition to legislation proposed in the Texas House that would deny the rights and benefits of Texas citizenship to illegal aliens. Perry called such legislation "divisive."

    Apparently he doesn't consider the flood of illegal aliens "divisive" -- glutted classrooms, hospitals teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, jails and prisons jammed with criminals who are in the United States illegally.

    Speaking of hospitals, after Perry's speech to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, we wonder if he stopped off at Parkland Memorial Hospital, where President Kennedy tragically passed.

    It's a different hospital today.

    Approximately 16,000 babies are born there every year -- that's almost 44 every day.

    And according to a 2006 survey, 70 PERCENT WHO GAVE BIRTH THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF THAT YEAR WERE ILLEGAL ALIENS.

    The total cost for delivering babies? A WHOPPING $70.7 million!

    Medicaid (paid for by state and federal taxpayers) put up $34.5 million and Dallas County taxpayers kicked in $31.3 million.

    Do you suppose Perry thinks that tax bite is divisive?

    Do you suppose Governor Perry thinks about how "divisive" this spectacle might seem to American citizens?

    Use the hyperlink below to send your urgent and personalized Blast Fax messages to President George W. Bush, the GOP leadership in Congress and these 14 left-wing Members of Congress.

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    They Want You to Forget.

    So members of both parties are trying to stop Homeland Security from building the fence!

    How many times have Congress and the White House attempted to kill the very idea of a fence?

    And how many times have you and millions of other concerned Americans forced them to go back to the drawing board and come up with a sound plan?

    They want us to forget the fence -- to worry about global warming or the price of gasoline or Britney Spears -- anything but the brutal fact that they are thwarting the will of the American people.

    Let's let them know we do remember and that the American people will once again express our will in no uncertain terms. Secure the Borders NOW!

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    And demand that our leaders in Congress show some backbone and reproach those whose sly attempts to subvert the democratic process could further weaken our nation's border security.

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    Yours In Freedom,



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    Why am I not surprised. I think our politicians will fight each other whether they agree or not. They just don't want to agree with the other party.
    David

    The only person available to protect you 24 hours a day is you.

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    No New Taxes...

    all over again. there is never going to be a fence and probably was never going to be . just some pablum to make sheep shut up. besides, don't you know? our economy is intertwined with illegal immigrants, the nation would crash if we booted them all out. really pi$$e$ me off!!!

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    You know it is very simple. We could save a ton of $ and not even build the fence. All we need to do is STOP GIVING THIS CUNTRY AWAY! And they will stop coming. No cost to use and we save all the money building a fence. :ranting2:
    Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant'
    is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist '.

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    I agree Kimber........ it kinda like the movie Field of Dreams but insted of build it and they will come, its give and they will come.............
    Glock Carrier in SC.

    MufDady

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    I really don't know that a fence would be all that effective for the long term...it would look intimidating and be quite a feat of engineering, but would it really make a dent in the illegal immigration problem in, say...30 years? It would probably make no difference whatsoever. Consider the cost of what it would take to build this thing, and then annual maintenance. Is it really worth it, when we could probably use the money to stem the flow in other ways? And that's not even counting the ugly factor...having this big fence on the border that makes us look like we're in a prison.

    We can make a better, more adaptable "invisible fence" using drones loitering at 5000 feet, watching for thermal signatures at night, and movement in the daytime, as well as sensors integrated into the landscape. It can be fully automated, and alert someone when it detects something. That's a lot less expensive, and it has the distinct tactical advantage of not being visible. No one will know when they might get caught. It's not like a giant, obvious fence, where you can say, "Ok, we'd better find a way around that".

    In any case, most of the illegals come in in legit-looking vehicles, anyway...hidden in trucks, aircraft, ships, etc. We'd better look more closely at those, than worry about the smattering of people who decide to run across many miles of desert.
    Silent Running, by Mike and the Mechanics

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