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    Quote Originally Posted by kwo51 View Post
    Scotus has all kinds of Christian art and the 10 comm.on their wall.If you have a JD you have been feed the most ******** any college can give.I got may bar exam at the VFW in town.
    Not only that, but next to politicians (most of whom are also lawyers) lawyers are some of the most morally derelict people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    Not only that, but next to politicians (most of whom are also lawyers) lawyers are some of the most morally derelict people on the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    I'm sorry, do you have a J.D.?
    No, however I am in the lawsuit financing business as I put up a pound of flesh or two in to decide of a case merits funding or not. You quickly develop an understanding of what to look for when it comes to a case; quicker than an attorney when you're backing it up with money.
    No, I don't have a J.D., but I do have a B.A. in political science, so I'm just as familiar with constitutional law as the typical law student is, maybe even more so.
    Yet you couldn't fathom the concept that not all States have a similar concept of the castle doctrine. Is it Indiana PolySci?
    Anyway, those same federal judges who invented this constitutional concept are the same judges who found the law barring the possession of firearms by felons to be constitutional, and who also found that the Constitution gives women the right to murder their unborn children.
    I agree with Roe v. Wade. It's not my decision to make nor does a woman making that choice affect me personally or society as a whole. It is also in the interest of public health that it remain legal. Make it illegal and people will either go to where it's legal or have them done illegally. Leaving the US and having them done where it is legal puts the patient at risk as the (so called) physician doing the procedure is not subject to the stricter regulation of medical licensing as they are here. The physician doing the procedure out of this country would not be subject to any criminal or civil sanctions in the US.
    Don't try to suggest that having a J.D. makes someone more qualified to speak about the Constitution and constitutional case law than me. Just because someone has a J.D. that does not mean that they know what they're talking about. Also, just because someone doesn't have one that does not mean that they don't know anything about constitutional law.
    You need a JD and be a member of a State Bar, some jurisdictions have a federal bar to practice or argue law in a court room. You also need to be a member of a State Bar to be a federal judge and to be a judge in most other jurisdictions. I can read medical records and diagnoses as well as I use to be in the nursing profession as well. Does that make me an authority to practice medicine? No does not. It makes me a well informed consumer with some background on the subject. I also know many nurses who have a better understanding of medicine than MDs and DOs however our medical licensing system just as our attorney licensing system is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwo51 View Post
    Scotus has all kinds of Christian art and the 10 comm.on their wall.If you have a JD you have been feed the most ******** any college can give.I got may bar exam at the VFW in town.
    Oh really. Then why did this Alabama judge Roy Moore get thrown off the bench?
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    Quote Originally Posted by netentity View Post
    Once in a while you get not only a judge with brains but also one willing to stand up for what he believes even if it costs him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    Once in a while you get not only a judge with brains but also one willing to stand up for what he believes even if it costs him.
    And this fanaticism is different from 9/11 how?
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    Quote Originally Posted by netentity View Post
    And this fanaticism is different from 9/11 how?
    Fanaticism is in the eye of the beholder. To me rejecting God and thinking you sprang from some microb in the sea is fanacticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    Fanaticism is in the eye of the beholder. To me rejecting God and thinking you sprang from some microb in the sea is fanacticism.
    Would you also be as bold and stand up for a federal judge who had some equivalent text from the Qur'an instead of the Ten Commandments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by netentity View Post
    Would you also be as bold and stand up for a federal judge who had some equivalent text from the Qur'an instead of the Ten Commandments?
    This country was not founded on the Qur"an. It was founded on Christian principals by mostly Christians. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netentity View Post
    No, however I am in the lawsuit financing business as I put up a pound of flesh or two in to decide of a case merits funding or not. You quickly develop an understanding of what to look for when it comes to a case; quicker than an attorney when you're backing it up with money.

    Yet you couldn't fathom the concept that not all States have a similar concept of the castle doctrine. Is it Indiana PolySci?

    I agree with Roe v. Wade. It's not my decision to make nor does a woman making that choice affect me personally or society as a whole. It is also in the interest of public health that it remain legal. Make it illegal and people will either go to where it's legal or have them done illegally. Leaving the US and having them done where it is legal puts the patient at risk as the (so called) physician doing the procedure is not subject to the stricter regulation of medical licensing as they are here. The physician doing the procedure out of this country would not be subject to any criminal or civil sanctions in the US.

    You need a JD and be a member of a State Bar, some jurisdictions have a federal bar to practice or argue law in a court room. You also need to be a member of a State Bar to be a federal judge and to be a judge in most other jurisdictions. I can read medical records and diagnoses as well as I use to be in the nursing profession as well. Does that make me an authority to practice medicine? No does not. It makes me a well informed consumer with some background on the subject. I also know many nurses who have a better understanding of medicine than MDs and DOs however our medical licensing system just as our attorney licensing system is what it is.
    I apologize for giving you the impression that I was trying to practice law here, but I'm not.

    Seriously, you're wasting your time with this statement; or do you believe that my political science education led me to believe that knowing the nuances of constitutional case law, by itself, qualifies me to practice law or give legal advice without a J.D.?

    From a purely pragmatic standpoint, most of what you say about abortion is correct; but from a purely constitutional perspective, it was clearly decided incorrectly. Have you ever heard of the tenth amendment?

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

    Since the ability of the federal government to sanction abortion, nor its ability to prohibit the states from doing it, are nowhere to be found in the Constitution, that means that whether or not to allow it is, according to the Tenth Amendment, up to the states. While Roe v. Wade did not change anything in states where abortion was already legal, what it did do was force states that did not allow it and did not want it to decriminalize it. Furthermore, if Roe v. Wade were overturned, abortion would not be outlawed; it would now just be up to each state to decide whether it wants it or not; also, nothing would stop women living in states where it is illegal to go to one where it is legal to get one.

    I have found Constitutional justification for my argument; can you point to the section of the Constitution (not a court ruling, but a section of the Constitution) that justifies yours?
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