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  1. #1
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    Did you know the Shoe Bombers Trial is over?

    Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and tried to light it?

    Did you know his trial is over?
    Did you know he was sentenced?
    Did y
    ou see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV or Radio?
    Didn't think so.!!!

    Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

    Ruling by Judge William Young, US District Court.

    Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anything to say His response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the record, Reid also admitted his 'allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah,' defiantly
    stating, 'I think I will not apologize for my actions,' and told the court 'I am at war with your country.'

    Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below:

    Judge Young: "Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you.

    On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United States Attorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutively. (That's 80 years.)

    On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years, again to be served consecutively to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you for each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000, that's an aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines.

    The Court imposes upon you an $800 special assessment. The Court imposes upon you, five years supervised release simply because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no further.

    This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a fair and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence.

    Now, let me explain this to you. We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost respect. Here in this court, we deal with individuals as individuals and care for individuals as individuals. As human beings, we reach out for justice.

    You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether the officers of government do it, or your attorney does it, or if you think you are a soldier, you are not-----, you are a terrorist. And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not meet with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice.

    So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I've known warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal that is guilty of multiple attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and the TV crews were, and he said:

    'You're no big deal. '

    You are no big deal.

    What your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have, as honestly as I know how, tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. What was it that led you here to this courtroom today?

    I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty, and admit you are guilty, of doing? And, I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you, but as I search this entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.

    It seems to me, you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose. Here, in this society, the very wind carries freedom. It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom, so that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is administered fairly, individually, and discretely. It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf, have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of you before other judges.

    We Americans are all about freedom. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake though. It is yet true that we will bear any burden; pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here. The day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however, will long endure.

    Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America , the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice, is in fact being done. The very President of the United States through his officers, will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice.

    See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of America . That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands for freedom. And it always will.

    Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down."

    So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets? We need more judges like Judge Young. Pass this around. Everyone should, and needs to, hear what this fine judge had to say. Powerful words that strike home.

    Folks ask why I carry two guns...Well if I did not I'd be off balance and walk in circles!

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    The judge is an eloquent speaker, and makes many excellent points. Am I surprised that none of this made a news report? Not at all. Am I concerned by the part about the shoe bomber being remanded to the custody of the Attorney General? Well, Holder will probably forget what he did with him.

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    The AG only gets him after the 80 year sentence is completed. Same with the supervised release. And this did make the newspapers, though not the front page. And was on the radio. Don't know about TV, as I don't watch the news there

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    "...It seems to me, you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose..."
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    - -
    - -This judge is remarkable. He has a very good understanding of the mindset of the majority of Americans, especially those that believe in the Constitution and the Second Amendment. As I read this, I think I gained a different understanding of the "war" experienced by those of us who fight the attempted erosion of our freedoms by many of our political, media and social leaders. As much as Richard Reid did, I believe they hate our freedoms! I believe they think they are privileged because they are so "smart" and should have these freedoms. But those who do not believe as they do or share their ideals do not deserve those same freedoms.
    - -This is the ultimate in class warfare, not classed by birth, race or economic status but whether or not you buy in to their views. This is what has lead to communists, nazis, totalitarism dictatorships of all stripes to take hold. The problem is the number of people that are issue voters (race, immigration, same sex marriage, pro abortion, etc.) are tied in to one issue. It is like they have tunnel vision on the one idea that they cannot see what is happening or don't care on the whole range of issues. Evidence is the number of black or church leaders that were outspoken critics of this administration embracing LGBT issues (gay marriage, homosexuals more legal protection than average white guy, etc.) or against the HHS ruling that demanded all businesses cover abortions. Many were adamantly opposed to admimistration positions yet refused to ask those in their "sphere of influence" to vote against those forcing these illegal moral issues on us, Obewon and his party. I suggest, by refusing to try to get those making these major moral decisions they objected to out of power, those leaders' actions show how important their "moral" objection was.
    - -Instead they let one issue, such as race, determine who they voted for. They had a chance to get their issues remedied by replacing those in power making those terrible "moral choices" for everybody. Their own "moral" choice was to look the other way. I have two close friends in their 50-60's who were lifelong democrats who voted Republican for the first time in their life because of their moral choice. They were not like these leaders that verbally opposed but refused to make the moral choice when in the voting booth.
    - -As we see now, the abuses of power the administration and their minions carried out prior to November may have been enough to swing some elections, including some states to O. If those so strongly opposed to his actions were "all in" to defeat those administration positions, how many blacks, union, Asian, Catholic or Jewish voters would have voted against re-election? As a result, the administration still continues those same assaults on our rights and freedoms.
    - -This judge has it right!
    Dave "The said Constitution shall never be construed...to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." Samuel Adams

  6. #5
    My question is why are my tax$'s supporting this mans life? A lethal injection or overdose would be so much cheaper! Why are we sparing this cockroaches life? Our founding fathers would have hung him on the spot, the way it should go! Instead, we are going to spend all this money keeping this prick alive...STUPID!

  7. #6
    I greatly admire this judge and I'm not surprised it didn't make front page headlines. But I'm not sorry about that either. It seems like that's exactly what this POS would have wanted. As it is, he's just another criminal locked away for life to be soon forgotten. Except for us supporting him anyway. Right, he should have been put out of 'our' misery.

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