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    Good Lord enough is enough. Your here your queer we get it so shut up already.
    Now the lawyers will have a brand new income stream which is why they were behind (excuse the pun) it all the time.

    If I talked as much about manning up as they are talking about bufuing I would be labeled a label or something.
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  3. #32
    As in many subjects the devout dabble, their definition is not the only definition - simply the only one they choose to acknowledge in their simple-minded worldview:

    marriage

    mar·riage [mar-ij] Show IPA, noun

    1. a legally, religiously, or socially sanctioned union of persons who commit to one another, forming a familial and economic bond: Anthropologists say that some type of marriage has been found in every society, past and present.

    2. a. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
    b. a similar institution involving partners of the same gender, as in gay marriage; same-sex marriage.

    3. the state, condition, or relationship of being married; wedlock: They have a happy marriage. Synonyms: matrimony. Antonyms: single life, bachelorhood, spinsterhood, singleness.

    4. the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of two people to live as a married couple, including the accompanying social festivities: to officiate at a marriage. Synonyms: nuptials, marriage ceremony, wedding. Antonyms: divorce, annulment.

    5. a relationship in which two people have pledged themselves to each other in the manner of a husband and wife, without legal sanction: trial marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosreme View Post
    This latest ruling is one of many (others involving public school prayers, creationism as science in classrooms, taxpayer-funded religious icons on public grounds, 10 commandments plaques in courtrooms)past and future court decisions that will do what Congress and state and local governments can't (that means "won't"): undo the shameful religious shackles on nearly ever aspect of life in this country.
    Yes, isn't it wonderful to have raised our fist in God's face and removed what you call "shameful religious shackles"? Isn't it also wonderful just how our nation has fallen to the depths of depravity and we are now reflecting the mentality of a third world Banana Republic wallowing in our own self- willed destruction as consequence for our choice? Only an atheist so opposed to anything linked to God that their hatred gets in the way of common sense could spew such garbage from his mouth. Being of your father the devil you have the nearest alliance to Satan, and being a "fool by choice" will never go away or shut up. Trapped in your awful state of depravity you partake of the same principles and propensities which characterize the very nature and essence of your father the devil! When confronted with any debate your reprobate mentality demands that you issue negative and blasphemous commentary because, once again, your hatred gets in the way of any common sense.
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  5. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    Again, your hypothesis doesn't match the Bible.

    4 And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all[a] these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be [B]famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.



    END TIME SIGNS

    1. False Bible teachers would be money hungry. They would be smooth talkers, have many followers, and slur the Christian faith (2 Peter 2:1-3)

    2. Homosexuality would be increasingly evident at the end of the age (2 Timothy 3:3)

    3. Earthquakes would be in diverse places (Matthew 24:7)

    4. Stress would be part of living (2 Timothy 3:1)

    5. Many wars would erupt (Matthew 24:6)

    6. People would forsake the Ten Commandments as a moral code, committing adultery, stealing, lying, and killing (Matthew 24:12)

    7. There would be a cold religious system, in denying God's power (2 Timothy 3:5)

    8. Men would substitute fantasy in place of Christian truth (2 Timothy 4:4). This is so evident at Christmas when the birth of the Savior is lost behind the myth of Santa Claus.

    9. Deadly diseases would be prevalent (Matthew 24:7). The worldwide increase in AIDS deaths is almost inestimable. Over 160,000 Americans die of cancer each year.

    10. The fact that God once flooded the earth (the Noahic flood) would be denied (2 Peter 3:5-6). There is a mass of fossil evidence to prove this fact, yet it is flatly ignored by the scientific world because of its uncanny implication.

    11. The institution of marriage would be forsaken by many (1 Timothy 4:3)

    12. There would be an increase in famines (Matthew 24:7)

    13. Increase in vegetarianism would increase (1 Timothy 4:3-4)

    14. There would be a cry for peace (1 Thessalonians 5:3)

    15. The possession of Jerusalem would be at the center of international turmoil (Zechariah 12:3)

    16. Knowledge would increase (Daniel 12:4)

    17. There would be hypocrites within the Church (Matthew 13:25-30)

    18. There would be an increase of religious cults/false teachers (Matthew 24:11 & 24)

    19. The future would seem fearful to many (Luke 21:26)

    20. Humanity would become materialistic (2 Timothy 3:4)

    21. There would be many involved in travel (Daniel 12:4)

    22. The Christian Gospel would be preached as a warning to all nations (Matthew 24:14)

    23. Jesus said Christians would be hated "for His name's sake" (Matthew 24:9)

    24: And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. (Luke 21:25-26).

    25: Youth would become rebellious. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy (2 Timothy 3:2)

    26: Men would mock the warning signs of the end of the age saying, "for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." (2 Peter 3:4). The Bible even reveals their motivation, they love lust (verse 3). They fail to understand that a day to the Lord is as a thousand years to us. God is not subject to the time that He created. He can flick through time as we flick through the pages of a history book. The reason He seems to be silent, is because He is patiently waiting, not willing that any perish, but that all come to repentance.
    Treo, you are implying a time line. Why couldn't a blissful time precede all of this?
    I am looking for a time when people think their "Blessings" are because of their deeds or something other than Blessings from our heavenly Father.
    Then:
    END TIME SIGNS

    1. False Bible teachers would be money hungry. They would be smooth talkers, have many followers, and slur the Christian faith (2 Peter 2:1-3)

    2. Homosexuality would be increasingly evident at the end of the age (2 Timothy 3:3)

    3. Earthquakes would be in diverse places (Matthew 24:7)

    4. Stress would be part of living (2 Timothy 3:1)

    5. Many wars would erupt (Matthew 24:6)

    6. People would forsake the Ten Commandments as a moral code, committing adultery, stealing, lying, and killing (Matthew 24:12)

    7. There would be a cold religious system, in denying God's power (2 Timothy 3:5)

    8. Men would substitute fantasy in place of Christian truth (2 Timothy 4:4). This is so evident at Christmas when the birth of the Savior is lost behind the myth of Santa Claus.

    9. Deadly diseases would be prevalent (Matthew 24:7). The worldwide increase in AIDS deaths is almost inestimable. Over 160,000 Americans die of cancer each year.

    10. The fact that God once flooded the earth (the Noahic flood) would be denied (2 Peter 3:5-6). There is a mass of fossil evidence to prove this fact, yet it is flatly ignored by the scientific world because of its uncanny implication.

    11. The institution of marriage would be forsaken by many (1 Timothy 4:3)

    12. There would be an increase in famines (Matthew 24:7)

    13. Increase in vegetarianism would increase (1 Timothy 4:3-4)

    14. There would be a cry for peace (1 Thessalonians 5:3)

    15. The possession of Jerusalem would be at the center of international turmoil (Zechariah 12:3)

    16. Knowledge would increase (Daniel 12:4)

    17. There would be hypocrites within the Church (Matthew 13:25-30)

    18. There would be an increase of religious cults/false teachers (Matthew 24:11 & 24)

    19. The future would seem fearful to many (Luke 21:26)

    20. Humanity would become materialistic (2 Timothy 3:4)

    21. There would be many involved in travel (Daniel 12:4)

    22. The Christian Gospel would be preached as a warning to all nations (Matthew 24:14)

    23. Jesus said Christians would be hated "for His name's sake" (Matthew 24:9)

    24: And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. (Luke 21:25-26).

    25: Youth would become rebellious. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy (2 Timothy 3:2)

    26: Men would mock the warning signs of the end of the age saying, "for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." (2 Peter 3:4). The Bible even reveals their motivation, they love lust (verse 3). They fail to understand that a day to the Lord is as a thousand years to us. God is not subject to the time that He created. He can flick through time as we flick through the pages of a history book. The reason He seems to be silent, is because He is patiently waiting, not willing that any perish, but that all come to repentance.
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  6. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Kramer1113 View Post
    Treo, you are implying a time line. Why couldn't a blissful time precede all of this?
    I am looking for a time when people think their "Blessings" are because of their deeds or something other than Blessings from our heavenly Father.
    Then:
    END TIME SIGNS

    1. False Bible teachers would be money hungry. They would be smooth talkers, have many followers, and slur the Christian faith (2 Peter 2:1-3)

    2. Homosexuality would be increasingly evident at the end of the age (2 Timothy 3:3)

    3. Earthquakes would be in diverse places (Matthew 24:7)

    4. Stress would be part of living (2 Timothy 3:1)

    5. Many wars would erupt (Matthew 24:6)

    6. People would forsake the Ten Commandments as a moral code, committing adultery, stealing, lying, and killing (Matthew 24:12)

    7. There would be a cold religious system, in denying God's power (2 Timothy 3:5)

    8. Men would substitute fantasy in place of Christian truth (2 Timothy 4:4). This is so evident at Christmas when the birth of the Savior is lost behind the myth of Santa Claus.

    9. Deadly diseases would be prevalent (Matthew 24:7). The worldwide increase in AIDS deaths is almost inestimable. Over 160,000 Americans die of cancer each year.

    10. The fact that God once flooded the earth (the Noahic flood) would be denied (2 Peter 3:5-6). There is a mass of fossil evidence to prove this fact, yet it is flatly ignored by the scientific world because of its uncanny implication.

    11. The institution of marriage would be forsaken by many (1 Timothy 4:3)

    12. There would be an increase in famines (Matthew 24:7)

    13. Increase in vegetarianism would increase (1 Timothy 4:3-4)

    14. There would be a cry for peace (1 Thessalonians 5:3)

    15. The possession of Jerusalem would be at the center of international turmoil (Zechariah 12:3)

    16. Knowledge would increase (Daniel 12:4)

    17. There would be hypocrites within the Church (Matthew 13:25-30)

    18. There would be an increase of religious cults/false teachers (Matthew 24:11 & 24)

    19. The future would seem fearful to many (Luke 21:26)

    20. Humanity would become materialistic (2 Timothy 3:4)

    21. There would be many involved in travel (Daniel 12:4)

    22. The Christian Gospel would be preached as a warning to all nations (Matthew 24:14)

    23. Jesus said Christians would be hated "for His name's sake" (Matthew 24:9)

    24: And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. (Luke 21:25-26).

    25: Youth would become rebellious. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy (2 Timothy 3:2)

    26: Men would mock the warning signs of the end of the age saying, "for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." (2 Peter 3:4). The Bible even reveals their motivation, they love lust (verse 3). They fail to understand that a day to the Lord is as a thousand years to us. God is not subject to the time that He created. He can flick through time as we flick through the pages of a history book. The reason He seems to be silent, is because He is patiently waiting, not willing that any perish, but that all come to repentance.
    OK, some of us who know the Truth must get off this and spread the Word to those who do not. This is all great to show we have Bible but let us not allow others to die in sin. I do not want that on my hands.
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  7. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by kwimby View Post
    As in many subjects the devout dabble, their definition is not the only definition - simply the only one they choose to acknowledge in their simple-minded worldview:

    marriage

    mar·riage [mar-ij] Show IPA, noun

    1. a legally, religiously, or socially sanctioned union of persons who commit to one another, forming a familial and economic bond: Anthropologists say that some type of marriage has been found in every society, past and present.

    2. a. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
    b. a similar institution involving partners of the same gender, as in gay marriage; same-sex marriage.

    3. the state, condition, or relationship of being married; wedlock: They have a happy marriage. Synonyms: matrimony. Antonyms: single life, bachelorhood, spinsterhood, singleness.

    4. the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of two people to live as a married couple, including the accompanying social festivities: to officiate at a marriage. Synonyms: nuptials, marriage ceremony, wedding. Antonyms: divorce, annulment.

    5. a relationship in which two people have pledged themselves to each other in the manner of a husband and wife, without legal sanction: trial marriage.
    From Webster's Dictionary:

    marriage 1 a :the state of being married b:the mutual relation of husband and wife: WEDLOCK c: the institution whereby men and women are joined in a special kind of social and legal dependence for the purpose of founding and maintaining a family 2 : an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; esp : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities. [B]3 :[B] an intimate or close union.

    Still means men and women make a marriage.

  8. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by golocx4 View Post
    Good Lord enough is enough. Your here your queer we get it so shut up already.
    Now the lawyers will have a brand new income stream which is why they were behind (excuse the pun) it all the time.

    If I talked as much about manning up as they are talking about bufuing I would be labeled a label or something.
    No, just not ignorant or a bigot.
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    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

  9. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    From Webster's Dictionary:

    marriage 1 a :the state of being married b:the mutual relation of husband and wife: WEDLOCK c: the institution whereby men and women are joined in a special kind of social and legal dependence for the purpose of founding and maintaining a family 2 : an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; esp : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities. [B]3 :[B] an intimate or close union.

    Still means men and women make a marriage.
    So now the new moral authority for life is Webster's Dictionary?
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kramer1113 View Post
    Thank You Treo. No Time Line. Peace can occur just before The end times. In fact, the lead in sounds like people are doing just as I said.
    I can’t find anything in Scripture to support your hypothesis; if you can I’d like to see it.

    Having said that, if you insist on a time of peace and prosperity before The Judgment begins then I suggest to you that it came and went in the 90s and I would also say that that first major tsunami that wiped out 100,000 people in Indonesia was the beginning of the end
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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    Don't forgive them Father, They know damn well what they are doing!
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