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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
    Like I said your knowledge of the breed is pathetic. The only thing more pathetic than your knowledge is your prejudice against their owners. You sound like an anti gun liberal confusing your facts with emotional opinion.

    Dual wield all you want....everyone calling you commando gets more real with each post.
    Provide documented proof that the dog wasn't bred for viciousness and maybe you could change my mind.

    Do you always repeat what someone says to you back to them? You sound like a five year old saying "nuh uh, you are"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcox4freedom View Post
    I just got back from a pit bull call. (New owners who have a year old male that is testing boundaries & showing aggression.)

    When I got there the dog began barking & growling like it's gonna tear me up. I walked over & took him & he immediately became submissive. Probably 99% of what people think is dangerous aggression is nothing but BLUFF. After just a few minutes he's playing like a puppy & trying to do everything I'm teaching him.

    I've been rescuing & rehabilitating pit bulls for decades.

    To date: I have not found one that was too far gone to be rehabilitated.

    IMHO; It's the dumb^$$ owners that need to be neutered or put down in most cases. (I believe in everyones right to own a gun. But, some people need to stay away from animals period.)


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    Would you gamble with a child's life? How sure are you that it is a bluff when a helpless 3 year old is directly in his path and he's threatening to tear everyone up? Would you allow the dog to bluff right in your childs face?

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    I found a lost cat in early June. It was on missing posters all over town with only an address listed. I took the cat to the house in a kennel and went to knock on the door when a giant black lab came out of some trees and put his nose right up to my knee and started growling. I knocked on the door anyways and waited over 3 minutes for the lady to come to the door. In that time, the dog stopped "bluffing" and lunged at me. He only got my jean leg and let go when I put my colt defender in his eye and told him to "go fuckin lay down." The lady apologized profusely and said the dog is out of control. I have no doubt that dog would have gone through the window of my car and killed my kids were he not chained and was I not ready for him. And that was a black lab, one of the friendliest breeds. If I'm a commando, why did she not call 911 and report me? Because I don't just pull my guns for no reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    Would you gamble with a child's life? How sure are you that it is a bluff when a helpless 3 year old is directly in his path and he's threatening to tear everyone up? Would you allow the dog to bluff right in your childs face?
    My children have been helping me rehabilitate & rescue pit bulls since they were little. (My 11yr old just went on a rescue & transport call with me yesterday.)

    You may be a dog lover tcd. But, your "knowledge" about dogs (especially pit bulls) is sorely wanting. I've been doing this for decades and have worked with HUNDREDS of dogs. (So, yeah I can read a bluff and no I don't put my kids in danger!)


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    Quote Originally Posted by tcox4freedom View Post
    My children have been helping me rehabilitate & rescue pit bulls since they were little. (My 11yr old just went on a rescue & transport call with me yesterday.)

    You may be a dog lover tcd. But, your "knowledge" about dogs (especially pit bulls) is sorely wanting. I've been doing this for decades and have worked with HUNDREDS of dogs. (So, yeah I can read a bluff and no I don't put my kids in danger!)


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    You may be able to read a bluff...except for that one time a dog isn't bluffing. As for me, I'm not so willing to risk my children just to call a dog's "bluff." Do you also fool around with feral dogs? Do you mess around in coyote dens? Would you call a bear's bluff? I don't because all those animals could kill my child. Alone? Yes, maybe. But reference the last time I called a dog's bluff (post #23 of this thread) and you'll see why I don't risk my little girl's safety.

    My knowledge of dogs is just fine. To you, your dog can be as docile and gentle as Mother Theresa as most dogs are, but when you aren't watching the dog can and will do what it pleases because it knows you aren't watching. You can argue in favor of a pitbull based on your love for your pet, or you can accept that the breed has issues because it was bred for violence. Additionally, whenever you catch a dog digging in trash, in traffic, etc...does the owner ever believe where you found their dog? I learned the hard way when two deputies brought back my lab because I went to use the bathroom and he sprinted across the field to the intersection where they were documenting a fender bended, and he jumped into the front seat of their car and waited to go for a ride. It was $120 for my dog being at large. I was in the bathroom for about a minute and working for another few before they got my address off his tags and brought them back. I assumed he was under my truck, as he usually is. Before that, I never believed my neighbors when they complained since he always behaved in my presence. Now, I will assume it's true. Sad thing is I have an invisible fence. He goes right through it and I hate turning the voltage up because it hurts him.

    Every time anyone says "would you do..." Somebody always says "mine have been doing yadayada since they were x years old." Not calling you a liar, just making an observation.
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    You probably resembled someone the dog knew. When the hands went up (a standard "HALT!" hand motion taught at most dog training schools) the dog recognized the hand motion, and retreated.

    Does 'skidding to a stop' then retreating constitute an attack?

    Not sure how I'd react. Definitely going on the defense. Don't know about shooting. I wasn't there.
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  8. If it didn't back off, yes. Especially to protect a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walt629 View Post
    You probably resembled someone the dog knew. When the hands went up (a standard "HALT!" hand motion taught at most dog training schools) the dog recognized the hand motion, and retreated.

    Does 'skidding to a stop' then retreating constitute an attack?

    Not sure how I'd react. Definitely going on the defense. Don't know about shooting. I wasn't there.
    Most dogs jump when you put your hands up. Also, most people don't take their dog to a trainer. We do it ourselves because we aren't made of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcox4freedom View Post
    My children have been helping me rehabilitate & rescue pit bulls since they were little. (My 11yr old just went on a rescue & transport call with me yesterday.)

    You may be a dog lover tcd. But, your "knowledge" about dogs (especially pit bulls) is sorely wanting. I've been doing this for decades and have worked with HUNDREDS of dogs. (So, yeah I can read a bluff and no I don't put my kids in danger!)


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    Everyone remembers "Petey" from The Little Rascals, right? America's kiddy gang dog was a pit bull. Good thing you're doing with your kids. God loves those who care for his creatures.

    One day after working on the property all day I laid on the family room floor. The knucklehead comes over and snuggles in for a nap. As I'm looking at the size of his head and jaw structure I understood why some people might be afraid. My dog was raised around small kids from a pup. The dog was treated like one of the kids. No jealousy, not a growl, nothing, ever. I believe a dog is a representation of his environment. When he's part of a pack family and is well socialized and well treated he is no threat..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    Most dogs jump when you put your hands up. Also, most people don't take their dog to a trainer. We do it ourselves because we aren't made of money.
    YOUR dog jumps when you put your hands up.

    Mine halts when I put my hand up, extended in front of me. Much like a pistol stance.

    Being 'made of money' and getting the animal correct training are exclusive of each other. Dog training is not as expensive as having an unruly dog that doesn't listen to commands and gets you into a liability law suit over a dog bite or real dog attack. Then you DO need to be made of money.

    JMO but I'd rather pay the trainer than a lawyer. No offense to the lawyers in our midst.
    To not stand against injustice is to stand for it.
    Don't confuse my personality and my attitude.
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