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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    Great progress. Very happy for you. Good to be without pain isn't it?
    Well, I do still have some pain but I'm just pushing through it as it doesn't feel like anything worrisome... just aches.

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    Yes it is... yes it is. However, not to try and sound like a tough guy (even though I am, heh) but I've gotten so used to it that I'm not sure what to do without it. That's weird, I know... maybe you understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnerbob View Post
    I managed to walk about two miles yesterday morning with only one break, felt good to work up a sweat! I haven't taken any pain meds in a few days, either. Slowly but surely, I'm getting there.
    Great! You're doing better than me. I haven't been able to walk that far for the past 17 years, or at least not without causing significant pain anyway. They're injecting something called Euflexxa into my knee now. Had my first injection Friday. I don't really have my hopes up though. Had too many disappointments over the years to get my hopes up anymore. Good to know things are working for you though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    Great! You're doing better than me. I haven't been able to walk that far for the past 17 years, or at least not without causing significant pain anyway. They're injecting something called Euflexxa into my knee now. Had my first injection Friday. I don't really have my hopes up though. Had too many disappointments over the years to get my hopes up anymore. Good to know things are working for you though.
    I wish there was something that could be done to improve your condition, Rhino. I haven't heard of Euflexxa, I'll have to look that one up.
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    Well, I haven't taken anything but Naproxen for about two weeks. I've been dealing with the aches and pains (like always) and only taking the anti-inflammatory to (hopefully) ease the swelling around the nerve. I fully expect to have the pain and/or nerve tingle/burn or numbness for awhile... as does the surgeon. He told me up front to expect it, being as that I had the issue for three years... it will take awhile to heal properly. Even then, there is always the possibility that I will have a permanent problem with the nerve. The longer the herniation on the nerve, the higher the chances of a permanently damaged one. Hopefully, I will heal well and over the next 12mos I will see meaningful improvement.
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    Good to hear. I assume you're aware you can also take Tylenol if you want. It's better not to take either on a continuous basis over a long period of time if you can avoid it. Tylenol can potentially affect your liver and Naproxen (Aleve) can potentially affect your kidneys long term. Tylenol and Celebrex are about the only thing I can use for my knee, but I try not to take either one continuously.

    Had my last Euflexxa injection today. It was uneventful, but I can't say the same for last week. They had made the first injection into the lefdt side of my knee and that went without a hitch, but the second injection last week went into the right side. The injection itself went fine, but when I stood up to leave and put full weight on my right leg, searing pain shot through my knee. It was just like I had injured it again back in 1996. I almost went down on the floor right there. Luckily I was still close to the exam table and grabbed that. The worst pain only lasted a few seconds though, and I was able to limp out a minute later. It was somewhat sore for a couple of days, and I think I limped for a couple days more just because I was scared the pain would return, but it didn't. Anyway, got the third and last injection in the right side today, but no pain. Overall I think there may be some slight improvement. It doesn't seem to hurt quite as much when I go down the basement stairs, but it's hard to tell for sure because the pain level has never been all that predictable. Some days it hurts more than others, and there has never been any pattern that we we've ever been able to figure out. Sometimes it'll be fine all day and then I'll have a sharp, shooting pain stab through my knee while I'm sitting on the sofa watching TV that night, for no apparent reason whatsoever. Some days it'll hurt whenever I walk and other days I can walk a couple of miles without a problem. But I'm hoping the small improvement I've seen over the last couple of weeks is due to the injections, and that I can therefore expect that improved condition to continue for a while. I can get another series of injections in as little as six months if my knee condition deteriorates again.

    And if my perceived improvement isn't due to the Euflexxa injections, there's something else they can try. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but they take some of my blood and inject it into my knee somewhere. They haven't entirely explained that process to me yet.
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    Try not to take any narcotics for pain. My wife started them after her second surgery (fusion L2/L3, L3/L4, L4/L5). She eventually stopped them for fear of driving under the influence of medication. Her health plan paid for a very comfortable lift chair which has nearly unlimited positions. She can get relief in that chair. I feel bad for her, she needs a neck fusion and its starting to press the spinal chord, but she doesn't want to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    Good to hear. I assume you're aware you can also take Tylenol if you want. It's better not to take either on a continuous basis over a long period of time if you can avoid it. Tylenol can potentially affect your liver and Naproxen (Aleve) can potentially affect your kidneys long term. Tylenol and Celebrex are about the only thing I can use for my knee, but I try not to take either one continuously.

    Had my last Euflexxa injection today. It was uneventful, but I can't say the same for last week. They had made the first injection into the lefdt side of my knee and that went without a hitch, but the second injection last week went into the right side. The injection itself went fine, but when I stood up to leave and put full weight on my right leg, searing pain shot through my knee. It was just like I had injured it again back in 1996. I almost went down on the floor right there. Luckily I was still close to the exam table and grabbed that. The worst pain only lasted a few seconds though, and I was able to limp out a minute later. It was somewhat sore for a couple of days, and I think I limped for a couple days more just because I was scared the pain would return, but it didn't. Anyway, got the third and last injection in the right side today, but no pain. Overall I think there may be some slight improvement. It doesn't seem to hurt quite as much when I go down the basement stairs, but it's hard to tell for sure because the pain level has never been all that predictable. Some days it hurts more than others, and there has never been any pattern that we we've ever been able to figure out. Sometimes it'll be fine all day and then I'll have a sharp, shooting pain stab through my knee while I'm sitting on the sofa watching TV that night, for no apparent reason whatsoever. Some days it'll hurt whenever I walk and other days I can walk a couple of miles without a problem. But I'm hoping the small improvement I've seen over the last couple of weeks is due to the injections, and that I can therefore expect that improved condition to continue for a while. I can get another series of injections in as little as six months if my knee condition deteriorates again.

    And if my perceived improvement isn't due to the Euflexxa injections, there's something else they can try. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but they take some of my blood and inject it into my knee somewhere. They haven't entirely explained that process to me yet.
    Yes, I'm aware I can also take Tylenol... the Naproxen is prescribed so I'm going with that. I don't take it throughout the day, just when I feel I need it (like before or after going walking). Well, I hope you have relief with the new injection... at least some.

    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    Try not to take any narcotics for pain. My wife started them after her second surgery (fusion L2/L3, L3/L4, L4/L5). She eventually stopped them for fear of driving under the influence of medication. Her health plan paid for a very comfortable lift chair which has nearly unlimited positions. She can get relief in that chair. I feel bad for her, she needs a neck fusion and its starting to press the spinal chord, but she doesn't want to do it.
    Damn, BC... You and you're wife have my best wishes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    Try not to take any narcotics for pain. My wife started them after her second surgery (fusion L2/L3, L3/L4, L4/L5). She eventually stopped them for fear of driving under the influence of medication. Her health plan paid for a very comfortable lift chair which has nearly unlimited positions. She can get relief in that chair. I feel bad for her, she needs a neck fusion and its starting to press the spinal chord, but she doesn't want to do it.
    I had C5-C6 fused because it was impinging on my spinal cord and causing paralysis down my right arm. Actually the second surgery was the fusion. They tried repairing it first, but that didn't last long. I still have a copy of the original MRI somewhere. The disc was pushing my spinal cord from one side into the space between the vertebrae on the other side. They were so worried I'd cause permanent injury that they confined me to my bed for six weeks prior to the surgery. I was only supposed to get up to use the bathroom. You know that old saying about always being able to find something to watch on satellite TV because there's like 400 channels? Not true. I was ready to climb the walls after two or three weeks. C6-C7 was repaired during the first surgery too. I also have a lumbar disc impinging on my spine somewhere, but not bad enough to warrant intervention. Sucks to get old. Or as my wife says, sucks to be me, because most people my age don't have anywhere near the problems I do. When people ask my age, I'll sometimes respond, "Physically, chronologically or mentally?" There's three very different answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    I had C5-C6 fused because it was impinging on my spinal cord and causing paralysis down my right arm. Actually the second surgery was the fusion. They tried repairing it first, but that didn't last long. I still have a copy of the original MRI somewhere. The disc was pushing my spinal cord from one side into the space between the vertebrae on the other side. They were so worried I'd cause permanent injury that they confined me to my bed for six weeks prior to the surgery. I was only supposed to get up to use the bathroom. You know that old saying about always being able to find something to watch on satellite TV because there's like 400 channels? Not true. I was ready to climb the walls after two or three weeks. C6-C7 was repaired during the first surgery too. I also have a lumbar disc impinging on my spine somewhere, but not bad enough to warrant intervention. Sucks to get old. Or as my wife says, sucks to be me, because most people my age don't have anywhere near the problems I do. When people ask my age, I'll sometimes respond, "Physically, chronologically or mentally?" There's three very different answers.
    I consider myself very lucky. In my mid-fifties. I'm limber and have no orthopedic issues. I feel the same as when I was a kid. I've had heart surgery but suffered no long-term problems. I feel real bad for those with spinal/nerve pain. From what I see with my wife its among the worst things that can happen to someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    Try not to take any narcotics for pain. My wife started them after her second surgery (fusion L2/L3, L3/L4, L4/L5). She eventually stopped them for fear of driving under the influence of medication. Her health plan paid for a very comfortable lift chair which has nearly unlimited positions. She can get relief in that chair. I feel bad for her, she needs a neck fusion and its starting to press the spinal chord, but she doesn't want to do it.
    Man, do I ever get that. I had very close to the same surgery, only it was L3 through S1 to get fused. Did your wife have to have the cages filled with cadaver bone "paste" implanted to replace the discs? Mine was two surgeries in one week. First through the back to install all the hardware, and then four days later (without leaving the hospital) they basically "gutted" me though the belly, took all my innards out and laid them on the table beside me, while they worked on the cages and filling 'em with the bone paste.

    Sometime between the first and second surgery they had to wheel me through the halls to get a CAT-scan. I was in so much pain that everyone I saw in street-clothes, I was yelling at to "Run like your freakin' hair's on fire! These C-suckers are tryin' to kill ya's!" At that point the pain was so intense that I was really regretting deciding to go forward with the whole mess. It was literally 18 months before I had a pain free day. That was in 2002 (the first pain free day). Since then I can say the surgery worked. Worked very well in fact. Hardly ever even have mild back-aches anymore. But those first post-op 18 months were a nightmare, obviously sloping off towards the end to less of one, but still a nightmare nonetheless.

    If I were told by a doctor that they needed to work on my spine again, not sure I could do it, so I really understand where your wife is coming from. My best to both of you in figuring out how to deal with that kind of debilitating pain. It ain't easy on the sufferer or their family to deal with it, I know, and my wife knows too from the family perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    I consider myself very lucky. In my mid-fifties. I'm limber and have no orthopedic issues. I feel the same as when I was a kid. I've had heart surgery but suffered no long-term problems. I feel real bad for those with spinal/nerve pain. From what I see with my wife its among the worst things that can happen to someone.
    You are indeed very lucky. I pray it stays that way for you for the rest of your life. You can learn to defeat chronic pain through meds or meditation and relaxation techniques, but it is certainly never a welcome companion. I hope for you, and everybody really, that you never meet chronic pain in person.

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