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    I see that paranoia really does run rampant here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    I see that paranoia really does run rampant here.
    Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not following you : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    I see that paranoia really does run rampant here.

    And just because you do not believe it does not mean it is not true. It is just your opinion and that is one of two things everyone has.
    Last edited by HK4U; 10-18-2008 at 11:35 PM.
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    Tat,
    Adolph Hitler was elected on a "Change" ticket after/during an economic crisis
    Fidel Castro was elected on a "Change"ticket involving a perceived economic crisis
    Why do you think this couldn't happen here?

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    Rex 84 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Rex 84

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    (January 2007) Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, is a plan by the United States federal government to test their ability to detain large numbers of American citizens in case of civil unrest or national emergency.
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    Exercises similar to Rex 84 happen periodically.[1] Plans for roundups of persons in the United States in times of crisis are constructed during periods of increased political repression such as the Palmer Raids and the McCarthy Era. For example, from 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list.[2]
    According to scholar Diana Reynolds:
    The Rex-84 Alpha Explan (Readiness Exercise 1984, Exercise Plan; otherwise known as a continuity of government plan), indicates that FEMA in association with 34 other federal civil departments and agencies conducted a civil readiness exercise during April 5-13, 1984. It was conducted in coordination and simultaneously with a Joint Chiefs exercise, Night Train 84, a worldwide military command post exercise (including Continental U.S. Forces or CONUS) based on multi-emergency scenarios operating both abroad and at home. In the combined exercise, Rex-84 Bravo, FEMA and DOD led the other federal agencies and departments, including the Central Intelligence Agency, the Secret Service, the Treasury, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Veterans Administration through a gaming exercise to test military assistance in civil defense. JOAN OF ARC. The exercise anticipated civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes that would affect continuity of government and/or resource mobilization. To fight subversive activities, there was authorization for the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of martial rule. [3] Existence of a master military contingency plan, "Garden Plot" and a similar earlier exercise, "Lantern Spike" were originally revealed by journalist Ron Ridenhour, who summarized his findings in "Garden Plot and the New Action Army."[4]
    Rex 84 was mentioned during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently reported on by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987. [5]A number of websites and alternative publications that span the political spectrum have hypothesized upon the basic material about Rex 84, and in many cases hyperbolized it into a form of urban legend or conspiracy theory. Rex 84 is sometimes cited as an extension of the fictional King Alfred Plan, a strategy to detain African Americans. Nonetheless, the basic facts about Rex 84 and other contingency planning readiness exercises--and the potential threat they pose to civil liberties if fully implemented in a real operation--are taken seriously by scholars and civil liberties activists.[6]
    In 2008, for the first time an active military unit has been given a dedicated assignment stateside for civil unrest containment. It is assigned to Northcom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.[7]

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    1. ^ Diana Reynolds, "The Rise of the National Security State: FEMA and the NSC," CovertAction Information Bulletin, issue #33 (Winter 1990).
    2. ^ Donner, Frank (1980). The Age of Surveillance: The Aims & Methods of America's Political Intelligence System. New York: Alfred Knopf, 166.
    3. ^ Reynolds, [1]
    4. ^ Ridenhour, Ron (1975). "Garden Plot and the New Action Army". CounterSpy.
    5. ^ Chip Berlet, Right Woos Left, [2]
    6. ^ Berlet and Reynolds
    7. ^ Cavallaro, Gina; "Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1"; Army Times, online, Monday Sep 8, 2008 [3]


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    Concerns about future civil liberties issues




    Critical of conspiracist interpretations



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    I see that paranoia really does run rampant here.
    Not correct tat...... Webster says "delusions", "excessive. or irrational" ....

    The attitudes and actions of Hussein, and the liberals regarding the 2nd Amendment, are NOT delusions, and those attitudes and actions do NOT make our concerns excessive or irrational. That attitude is exactly what Hussein is looking for in his prospective herd, just another sheep.



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    para·noia Listen to the pronunciation of paranoia
    Pronunciation:
    \ˌper-ə-ˈnȯi-ə, ˌpa-rə-\
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    noun
    Etymology:
    New Latin, from Greek, madness, from paranous demented, from para- + nous mind
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    circa 1811

    1 : a psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of persecution or grandeur usually without hallucinations 2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others
    Only when our arms are sufficient, without doubt, can we be certain, without doubt, that they will never be employed....... John F. Kennedy
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfhunter View Post
    Tat,
    Adolph Hitler was elected on a "Change" ticket after/during an economic crisis
    Fidel Castro was elected on a "Change"ticket involving a perceived economic crisis
    Why do you think this couldn't happen here?
    Because it's hyperbole, that's why.

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    Because it's hyperbole, that's why.
    Again your opinion and not shared by others and not backed up by facts. Many of us are parinoid according to you. Some have their head in the sand. Of the two choices I would rather er on the side of the first.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    Again your opinion and not shared by others and not backed up by facts. Many of us are parinoid according to you. Some have their head in the sand. Of the two choices I would rather er on the side of the first.
    Glad I'm neither paranoid nor have my head in the sand. I just refuse to let hyperbole dictate my actions.

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    Hyperbole has no basis in fact. It's used to create emphasis. I doubt you're old enough to have experience dictate all of your actions. Most of your actions, and many of your comments here are dictated by hyperbole, NOT fact, or experience.
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