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    Two U.S. presidents have been impeached: Andrew Johnson, the seventeenth chief executive, and William J. Clinton, the forty-second.

    Johnson, a Southern Democrat who became president after Lincoln's assassination, supported a mild policy of Reconstruction after the Civil War. The Radical Republicans in Congress were furious at his leniency toward ex-Confederates and obvious lack of concern for ex-slaves, demonstrated by his veto of civil rights bills and opposition to the Fourteenth Amendment. To protect Radical Republicans in Johnson's administration and diminish the strength of the president, Congress passed the Tenure of Office Act in 1867, which prohibited the president from dismissing office holders without the Senate's approval. A defiant Jackson tested the constitutionality of the Act by attempting to oust Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton. His violation of the Act became the basis for impeachment in 1868. But the Senate was one vote short of the two-thirds majority needed to convict, and Johnson was acquitted May 26, 1868.

    Former President Richard M. Nixon was found guilty by the senate and forced to resign, while never formally impeached. Congress was in the process of voting to continue the impeachment. Had NIxon not resigned, Congress most likely would have found him guilty of charge or charges brought against him and the impeachment would have been completed.

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    Presidential Assassinations Resources about the four US Presidents who were assassinated: Abraham Lincoln, James Garfield, William McKinley, and John F. Kennedy in addition to information about the attempted assassinations of: Andrew Jackson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry S Truman, Gerald Ford, and Ronald Reagan. Also, information about White House security and the Secret Service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canis-Lupus View Post
    OK, most on USA Carry know I am not 'home-grown' and there is a lot about the history of this nation I came to that I should know, but am still cramming on and finding more out every day. Has the U. S. ever elected a president that either screwed-up badly enough in his 1st term (not a 2nd termer) to be legally removed, 20th amendment section 3, within a year of taking office, or by acts of violence has been assassinated within a year, and did their vice always take office after them? If McCain had taken it I might ask about died in office of natural causes, but middle-aged Obama may live out a long life. I could probably get the answer if I do a wiki-frenzy until midnight, but I was hoping some of you historian types might know that as well I know British history (yawn..!) beaten in to me as a kid.

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    This is a man who came from nowhere, has done nothing, has been put into office by big money from questionable sources, who bought the media, who got votes simply because he was black and no other reason. Three names - Soros, Ayers, Wright. A man who at 46 has already written TWO auto-biographies and gives a new meaning to narcissism. Saw him make one of his first post-election speeches, in front of a podium with the words "Office of the President-Elect."

    I did not vote for him, and as others have already said, I will give him the same respect he and his ilk have given to Bush - none! He is for everything that I am against, and against everything that I am for. He is not MY president, and deserves not one iota of my support. But I WILL pray for him, for only God knows his heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpbarth View Post
    This is a man who came from nowhere, has done nothing, has been put into office by big money from questionable sources, who bought the media, who got votes simply because he was black and no other reason. Three names - Soros, Ayers, Wright. A man who at 46 has already written TWO auto-biographies and givces a new meaning to narcissism. Saw him make one of his first post-election speeches, in front of a podium with the words "Office of the President-Elect."

    I did not vote for him, and as others have already said, I will give him the same respect he and his ilk have given to Bush - none! He is for everything that I am against, and against everything that I am for. He is not MY president, and deserves not one iota of my support. But I WILL pray for him, for only God knows his heart.
    You are right. I will respect the office but not the man. He has not earned my respect either.

    When I was in the military I called nearly every officer by his rank. "good morning Captain, Colonel, Major Etc." I reserved the use of the word Sir for only that handful of Officers that earned my respect. I was never in question because I recognized the rank of the officer. Most were too wrapped around the promotion axle to realize the difference. This is the same with the Presidency, they must earn our respect by being adequate leaders. So far I ain't impressed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpbarth View Post
    This is a man who came from nowhere, has done nothing, has been put into office by big money from questionable sources, who bought the media, who got votes simply because he was black and no other reason. Three names - Soros, Ayers, Wright. A man who at 46 has already written TWO auto-biographies and gives a new meaning to narcissism. Saw him make one of his first post-election speeches, in front of a podium with the words "Office of the President-Elect."

    I did not vote for him, and as others have already said, I will give him the same respect he and his ilk have given to Bush - none! He is for everything that I am against, and against everything that I am for. He is not MY president, and deserves not one iota of my support. But I WILL pray for him, for only God knows his heart.
    +1! Couldn't have said it better myself

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    First off, if you look at my sig, the Declaration of Independence provides a path for dealing with despots. Secondly, if the "legal process" is followed, it would be just peachy. But witness what is happening now (and happened the last time,too) in CA. A majority of the people in CA voted for a marriage protection amendment, and since the gays don't like it, they will simply let the liberal court system in their state label it "unconstitutional" and get their way.

    Now, if that is following the legal process, then I want no part of it. When the government ceases to listen to the people - that is, the majority of the people (democracy) - then it's time for the people to change the government. Now, the majority elected Obama, and there is nothing that we can do about it now. But if the party starts whittling the Constitution down to a worthless rag, and suppressing the people, then read my sig again.

  9. Proud to be an American

    Canis-Lupus, first off, let me welcome you to the United States. I now relaize from your last couple of posts that you are British by birth. Please don't feel offended, because it is history, that in 1776 we threw off an oppressive government that happened to be British. Not convinced that the colonists had beaten their troops and the Hessian mercenaries, Britain tried again in 1812, and once more were repelled (I must say we almost lost that one.) Our Constitution does provide for the overthrow of a government that has become destructive of the freedoms guaranteed to us, Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The Bill of Rights did not 'give' anything to the citizens, only God can give those rights. The constitution merely enumerated those rights and told the government that the governed had these rights and they had better tread lightly. The Founding Fathers were very distrustful of a strong central government, after all, they had just kicked King George's cronies out of the country. What provides us a means of enforcing the section of the Constitution on overthrowing despotic government is the Second Amendment. The militia spoken of in the Second Amendment was never meant to be the National Guard or Reserves, but all males between the ages of 18 and 45 to provide for the common defense. Well-regulated merely meant well-trained. Men used to be required to keep a weapon, ammunition and a pack and train regularly. I will go so far as to say that if the military understands their oath, in the event that there comes the time when we need to exercise our right to overthrow a despotic government, the military will be forced by their concsiense to support the people, and not the dictator who grabs power, by illegaly declaring martial law or by a coup de etat. There can be no other interpretation of the Constitution.
    A man without a gun is a subject; a man with a gun is a citizen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canis-Lupus View Post
    OK, tracking.

    Hi Ya wuzfuz,
    First off thanks for acknowledging that I am from Jolly Olde (now gun free!) England, trust me, with the oaths I swore and the love I have for this nation, I'd be out of retirement, trained & armed to the teeth if a Brit Royal even came close to threating what I hold inviolate, same goes for Tallitubbies rolling up from Mexico, so cutting out the injustices of taxation without representation, some unwanted rule from London, and no fond love of what certain Brit kings and Queens did to my (mostly) Irish forefathers, well I think that places me born again Yank, 'n proud of it. So it's the 2nd that says raise a well organized militia to do the deed, fascinating, I never looked at the 2nd like that. No wonder disarming us would be handy, making that very hard to pull off. That's all, I look forward to more input into this thread, it is giving me and probably others a refresher on what those founding fathers maybe saw as a future president who had become persona-non-gratis.
    Thanks and following this thread with much interest.

    Canis-Lupus
    C-L, The Second Amendment is in place specifically because diplomatic efforts to correct the problems of "rule from London" failed. The founding fathers had just rejected British rule that included housing and feeding British troops in colonists' homes, at colonists' expense, unfair taxation, and laws designed to suppress the colonial economy. The Constitution was written so as to establish "checks and balances" in the Government, diplomatic methods for correction by "the People", and a last resort right/duty to establish a new government by force.

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    Canis for you and anyone else that would like to find a resource for the constitution, Declaration of Independence etc the following site is a really good one. David Barton has spoke all over the country to churches, civic groups and to many politicians.

    WallBuilders | Presenting America's forgotten history and heroes, with an emphasis on our moral, religious, and constitutional heritage.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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