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    Will Americans follow orders to take flu shots?

    Not me. No way.


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    Will Americans follow orders to take flu shots?
    Alarmist language sparking fears of mandatory vaccinations, quarantines
    Posted: August 11, 2009
    10:56 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily


    Avian flu viruses like this one have raised worries in the past similar to those being raised by this year's swine flu

    Alarmist language over possible outbreaks of swine flu as well as a series of moves by the federal government are fueling fears federal agents will soon be forcing citizens to be vaccinated – prompting one political party to launch a pre-emptive defense against any such effort.

    The Constitution Party, a fast-growing alternative to the dominant Democratic and Republican parties in many elections, has come out strongly in opposition to any "mandatory injections" of "potential toxic (H1N1) 'swine flu' vaccine."

    Citing the Fourth Amendment, which says, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons … shall not be violated," Constitution Party National Committee Chairman Jim Clymer said the issue isn't that complex.

    "It comes down to the most fundamental of all freedoms. If government can force potentially dangerous substances into our bodies what, then, can't government do to us?" he said.

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    "Whether mandated by the federal government, the individual states such as Massachusetts or international organizations like the World Health Organization or the United Nations, forcing potentially dangerous chemicals on a free people is tyranny," Clymer said

    The Constitution Party cited the research of Bill Sardi, who noted the "cozy relationship" where the WHO "prematurely" declares a pandemic, forcing dozens of governments to buy flu vaccines. Then, he wrote, public health authorities invoke mandatory vaccination programs for children.

    The enriched vaccine makers then "funnel profits back to the politicians."

    The party noted the alarmist behavior on the part of the U.S. Departments of Health and Homeland Security, which earlier this year when "several people" were "diagnosed" with swine flu, declared a national public health emergency.

    When that was declared in April, schools were closed, people quarantined and pharmaceutical companies awarded billion dollar contracts, the party explained.

    Condemnation also has come from Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, who cited the swine flu vaccination program in 1976. The effort killed more than two dozen people – not from the flu but from the vaccine.

    Paul said he was concerned that "nearly $8 billion will be spent to address a 'potential pandemic flu' which could result in mandatory vaccinations for no discernable reason other than to enrich the pharmaceutical companies that make the vaccine."

    Clymer also expressed concern about turning over decisions inside the United States to an international organization like the WHO. Adding other pieces to the puzzle, such as the Pentagon's involvement with the Federal Emergency Management Agency, just adds to his worries, he said.

    According to a Fox report, the Pentagon is planning to make available military troops – if they are needed – to help FEMA respond to a flu outbreak.

    The report said Defense Secretary Robert Gates is preparing to sign an order letting the military set up regional teams to help FEMA.

    "Americans should be gravely concerned when all the pieces are put together," Clymer said. "We have a strain of flu which has produced mild symptoms so far, and yet it appears there's a well-orchestrated world-wide effort to put draconian measures in place for a 'pandemic.'"

    Clymer also cited the WHO recommendations that would provide, essentially, for an indefinite stay in a quarantine camp for those who refuse a vaccination. He said the procedures that follow a "Level 6 Pandemic" allow international precedent to override U.S. constitutional guarantees of freedom.

    The party statement said, "All liberty-loving Americans should shudder at the WHO directives which state: 'During a pandemic, it may be necessary to overrule existing legislation or (individual) human rights. Examples are the enforcement of quarantine (overruling individual freedom of movement), use of privately owned buildings for hospitals
    , off-license use of drugs, compulsory vaccination or implementation of emergency shifts in essential services."

    No such extraordinary efforts are needed, the Constitution Party said, because according to the Centers for Disease Control, "the fear mongering regarding this flu is not warranted by forensic evidence that H1N1 is the potentially devastating plague the hyperbole purports it to be."

    According to the Fox report, the bird flu frenzy during 2005 prompted the Bush administration to add influenza to the government's list of diseases for which quarantines are allowed, creating a path through which people who exhibit symptoms could be detained by government order.

    Governors, however, according to a report from The Hill, are objecting to the potential involvement of the feds.

    Gov. Jim Douglas, R-Vermont, head of the National Governors Association, and Vice Chairman Gov. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., wrote, "We are concerned that the legislative proposal … would invite confusion on critical command and control issues, complicate interagency planning, establish stove-piped response efforts, and interfere with governors’ constitutional responsibilities to ensure the safety and security of their citizens," Douglas and Manchin wrote to Paul Stockton, assistant secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense and America's Security Affairs.

    And the Fox report said even a spokesman for the Defense Department acknowledged the concerns "about civil liberties and the use of force."

    Attorney Robert L. Shannon told the network the military generally isn't allowed to intervene in peoples' lives, "But it's important to remember that the president has the option and authority to use federal troops in a national emergency."

    An ACLU spokesman told Fox that the idea of forced vaccinations or detentions would raise constitutional questions, and Michel Chossudovsky, writing on the Global Research website, said the implications are "far-reaching."

    "The decision points toward the establishment of a police state," he said.

    At Natural News.com, a warning was issued that more and more incidents are being reported involving forced vaccinations in the United States – usually through workplace or school demands.

    "Attorney Alan Phillips, author of Dispelling Vaccination Myths, … got interested in the subject when he noticed the warning on a vaccination that was about to be administered to his infant child. The warning clearly stated that the odds of death from the vaccination were considerably higher than death from the diseases it was supposed to immunize," the report said.

    The site even promotes a petition to halt forced vaccinations.

    As the flu season approaches, a conference also has been scheduled to allow leaders of government and industry to consult on the potential problem.

    The event in the past has been used to discuss various strains of bird flu, but this year is being called the International Swine Flue Conference. It's Aug. 19-20 at the Hyatt Regency Washington on Capitol Hill.

    Among the topics to be considered are: "Unwillingness to follow government orders," "Control & diffuse social unrest & public disorder," "Protect police forces from falling ill & from being hurt in civil disturbances," and "Manage a surge in crime & meet routine requests at the same time."

    The international flu conference, promoted by New-Fields.com, is being assembled for "top leaders and decision-makers" from a broad range of industries as well as "scientists, public health officials, law enforcers, first responders, and other experts."

    The promotional brochure
    lists topics:

    * Mass fatality management planning

    * Country report and situations update

    * Surveillance and data management

    * Command, control and management, and others.

    Meanwhile, the Associated Press is reporting that Americans in eight cities are preparing to take a swine flu vaccine that still is in the testing stages, in manufacturers' hopes that the vaccine will be on the market soon.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    I would rather put myself in God's hands against the "Swine flu," than in the hands of a government that has proven itself over and over to be corrupt and untrustable.

    Vaccines contain mercury, look it up.
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    I've never taken a flu shot and I've never had the flu. I don't plan on taking this one either.
    From my cold dead fingers will you take my freedom. And even then you will have to pry it out with a crowbar.

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    Exclamation not just no...

    ...hell no...
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    IN OMNIA PARATUS

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    I'm one of those in the "at risk" category. I've been getting my flu shot for several years now and have to say it appears they work. I have found they are cheap, painless, and have made for no side affects other than I have not had the flu since I started getting them.

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    Having been in the US Navy, I was under orders to take the flu shots. Though not every time, I did get the flu, often right after having the shot.

    Since I retired in the 90s, I have not had one flu shot and have not had the flu once. I will NOT be taking this one, either!
    Last edited by Pa-Carry; 08-14-2009 at 05:32 AM. Reason: Spelling

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    Before taking any shots the government pushes it might be a good idea to read the book and check out the following. Also the common thread, from what I understand,with all those that got Desert storm illness was the shots. Some that got it were never deployed. They government has used mass groups of people as human guinea pigs before.

    Emerging Viruses - AIDS - Ebola - Dr. Leonard Horowitz - Natural Health and Longevity Resource Center
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    hhhhheeeeeelllllllllll,no!!!

    i live with the result of what vaccines can do. never again.
    SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE IS TRAINING TO KILL YOU. WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

  10. I won't be taking it. I don't even do doctors.

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    Stopped taking the flu shots after retiring from the Air Force years ago. Haven't had any problems and hopefully never will.

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