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  1. OH Resident with a Non Resident FL CCW

    My wife and I have just completed our CCW course and are getting paperwork ready to get our Non Resident CCW permits from FL. We are Ohio residents, and for various reasons perfer not to get an Ohio CCW. I have looked at Ohio CCW laws but have seen nothing which requires Ohio residences to have a Ohio CCW before getting another state's non resident CCW. The FL non residence CCW would be the only CCW permit we would have. The question is is this OK to do? Did I miss something in the statutes? Will Ohio recognize FL without an OH Permit? If I absolutely have to get a resident Ohio permit I will, but again would rather not.

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    I will check on Ohio law. Federal law would make it continue to be illegal to carry a loaded firearm in public within 1000' of a school without a permit issued by the same state the school zone is located in - in this case, Ohio. That is 18 USC 922 (q)(2).

    I did not see anything in Ohio Revised Code chapter 2923 that invalidates a non-resident license recognized by Ohio just because the person is an Ohio resident.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketscientist55 View Post
    My wife and I have just completed our CCW course and are getting paperwork ready to get our Non Resident CCW permits from FL. We are Ohio residents, and for various reasons perfer not to get an Ohio CCW. I have looked at Ohio CCW laws but have seen nothing which requires Ohio residences to have a Ohio CCW before getting another state's non resident CCW. The FL non residence CCW would be the only CCW permit we would have. The question is is this OK to do? Did I miss something in the statutes? Will Ohio recognize FL without an OH Permit? If I absolutely have to get a resident Ohio permit I will, but again would rather not.
    first off FLA does not issue non resident permits, all their permits are equal. as for using a FLA permit in lieu of an Ohio permit, that would depend on Ohio law. many states require residents of their states to have their states permit. I am not an expert or a lawyer and any advice you get on the internet should be checked and double checked

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    It's legit. Ohio law does not require an Ohio resident to have an Ohio license.

    Just be aware of a couple issues. First, if either Florida or Ohio cancels the reciprocity agreement, you will suddenly be an unlicensed person in Ohio. Second, if Ohio ever passes a bill to honor all state licenses (which almost happened last session), don't be surprised if the bill also requires Ohio residents to have an Ohio license. During the floor debate on the bill last session, one legislator mentioned that some of his fellow legislators were surprised to learn that Ohio residents could get out-of-state licenses. This was the reason the provision to recognize all state licenses was removed from the gun bill that passed last session.

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    A caveat that I would like to echo and possibly make clearer:

    Any state outside of OH that you travel to might have a restriction that the FL permit is only valid if you have one from your resident state as well. So, when traveling you will have a burden of checking into that as well.

    May we ask why you wish not to get an OH permit?
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    I too have a florida license to carry, and most states accept it. As a New Yorker my state does not accept any other states permits as well florida does not recognize or state permit. its always good to have your own states permit because if you get stopped by the cops and you dont have your states permit you are carrying illegally. so i would reccomend getting your ohio just to have it.

  8. I have already looked into which states would not recognize a non FL resident with a FL CCW and that is not an issue for me, if something were to change in my need to carry in those states, or in OH law I would have no choice but to get an OH CCW. As for why I do not wish to get OH's CCW is they share that information, in particular with the BMV. I realize OH law requires notifying a LOE about CCW, no problem with that. It is a good idea to do that. What I don't like is my car tags tied to my CCW. As a law abiding citizen I would perfer the officer not have any preconceived ideas if I am stopped (only stopped twice in over 30 decades BTW). Also this would be an issue for anyone borrowing my car (like my daughters). They would have to understand to tell an officer they do not have a CCW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketscientist55 View Post
    I realize OH law requires notifying a LOE about CCW, no problem with that. It is a good idea to do that. What I don't like is my car tags tied to my CCW. As a law abiding citizen I would perfer the officer not have any preconceived ideas if I am stopped (only stopped twice in over 30 decades BTW).
    Your statements seem to conflict with each other. You say, "I don't like is my car tags tied to my CCW. As a law abiding citizen I would perfer the officer not have any preconceived ideas if I am stopped." Can I ask what preconceived ideas you are worried about? If CCW permit information is returned with the license plate info, wouldn't that tell the officer that any firearms possessed by the driver would be 99% chance completely legal and should not be concerned about them if the person driving is the registered owner?

    Before that you said, "I realize OH law requires notifying a LOE about CCW, no problem with that. It is a good idea to do that." So, what would keep the officer from forming these preconceived ideas the minute that you provide them with your CCW permit info? The only difference between an officer finding out about your CCW permit from the state versus from you providing it to him is that if you provide it to him first he has no idea if it is real and valid or not until he verifies it with the state anyway.

    As you probably already know, many people very strongly disagree with you that any law requiring a person to inform LEO is good and that informing them anyway when not required to is good either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketscientist55 View Post
    Also this would be an issue for anyone borrowing my car (like my daughters). They would have to understand to tell an officer they do not have a CCW.
    Very true. Another example of silly gun control laws affecting only the citizens who would follow the law anyway and not the criminals.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketscientist55 View Post
    Also this would be an issue for anyone borrowing my car (like my daughters). They would have to understand to tell an officer they do not have a CCW.
    Not a big deal. Here's a story I told on the OFCC web site about my son driving a car registered to me.

    "Yesterday, while moving my son from Bowling Green to Columbus for his new job, he told me about a recent encounter with a BG officer.

    He needed to load audio equipment from the back of a bar at 2:30 am and drove the wrong way in a one-way lane of a municipal parking lot that is behind the bar. This prompted an officer to stop him.

    The car is registered in my name and the officer saw my CHL status in LEADS as he later told my son. The first thing he asked my son was, "Any guns in the car?" My son answered, "No, my dad is the one with the CHL and the car is in his name."

    Later on, as they were chatting, my son mentioned that he was working in Toledo and the officer told him, "You should be carrying also." which both surprised and amused my son. He likes shooting and has even said "maybe someday" he would get his license but with having just graduated from BGSU, moving to a new city and starting a new job in a couple weeks, it's not high on his priority list.

    I was glad he got some positive reinforcement from an unexpected source."

  11. Nope no conflict at all. I may have not articulated my position so you would understand, but will try and clarify. I have a choice in not having my CCW identified with my cars. So if my daughters or someone else is driving and is pulled over and the officer walks up and they are looking in a purse or glove compartment instead of having hands in plain sight the officer while cautious might not be thinking is this person looking for a gun? Why would I want that? As for identifying myself as a CCW holder, it really doesnt matter it is the law. That's why I have no problem with that. And no, I did not know "many" people disagree with identifying themselves. Matter of fact in all the reading I have done I can't remember one person with that opinion. Of course, everyone is entitled to an opinion. And I am glad to see a good LEO encounter as the other post indicates.

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