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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Yosimite sam View Post
    PLACES off limits to firearms without a CPL: Sec. 234d (1) Except as otherwise provided in subsection (2), a person shall not possess a firearm on the premises of any of the following: a) A Bank. b) A church. c) A court. d) A theatre. e) A sports arena. f) A day care center. g) A hospital. h) An establishment licensed under the Michigan liquor control act (BAR). This is code michigan.
    1) Any law abiding citizen of the State of Michigan who owns a safety inspected handgun may openly carry (in a holster) said firearm in all places not explicitly exempt by law with or without a CPL. Private property rules over-ride state law in regards to firearm possession.
    This is also "code michigan":

    Sec. 234d (2) This section does not apply to any of the following:
    (c) A person licensed by this state or another state to carry a concealed weapon.
    Once again, there is NO statute that causes it to be illegal in Michigan for a person with a CPL to open carry or concealed carry in a bank.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    OK. I figured out some of my confusion. MCL 28.425o is a Firearms Act and Sec. 234d is part of the penal code.

    One says you can carry in a bank, the other says you won't be punished for carrying in a bank. So either way, sounds like you can carry in a bank.

  4. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Yosimite sam View Post
    I do have a permit to carry,and I probably can OC in the bank without any legal problems,I would be afraid an itchy fingered security guard mistaking me for a threat to there security.
    Do banks actually have guards at the doors? I've never seen that except in the movies...maybe I just don't get out enough

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    Do banks actually have guards at the doors? I've never seen that except in the movies...maybe I just don't get out enough
    And if they do have a guard there, I'll bet he/she isn't armed. Banks are private entitities that carry property insurance on their buildings. The money at the bank in insured by FDIC. I guarantee that the private bank corporation isn't going to pay their insurance company what would be required to have armed employees there because of the liability of that employee shooting someone. They have no reason to protect the money because FDIC will cover it anyway.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  6. Legal or not, I don`t like to take those kinds of chances.The security guard might be having a particularly bad day.

  7. #36
    This is the law copied from Michigan State police website

    MSP - Pistol Free Areas

    Pistol Free Areas

    Individuals licensed to carry a concealed pistol by Michigan or another state are prohibited from carrying a concealed pistol on the following premises:


    Schools or school property but may carry while in a vehicle on school property while dropping off or picking up if a parent or legal guardian

    Public or private day care center, public or private child caring agency, or public or private child placing agency.

    Sports arena or stadium

    A tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises

    Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official allows concealed weapons

    An entertainment facility that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more

    A hospital

    A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university

    A Casino


    "Premises" does not include the parking areas of the places listed above.



    A pistol is subject to immediate seizure if the CPL holder is carrying a pistol in a "pistol free" area. The pistol is only subject to seizure if the holder is carrying it concealed. The following penalties may also be imposed:


    First offense: State Civil Infraction, $500 fine, CPL permit suspended 6 months
    Second offense: 90-day misdemeanor, $1000 fine, CPL permit revoked
    Third and subsequent offenses: 4-year felony, $5000 fine, CPL permit revoked

    Furthermore, effective March 29, 2001, per Administrative Order 2001-1 of the Michigan Supreme Court:

    "Weapons are not permitted in any courtroom, office, or other space used for official court business or by judicial employees unless the chief judge or other person designated by the chief judge has given prior approval consistent with the court's written policy."


    I did not read anything about a financial institution

  8. #37
    Let me try to simplify this. Michigan has two laws.

    When you open carry your registered pistol and you do NOT have a carry license you can NOT carry in these places:
    Michigan Legislature - Section 750.234d (No bank carry, open or concealed.)

    If you have a concealed pistol license you can NOT conceal in these places:
    Michigan Legislature - Section 28.425o (Carry however you want in a bank.)

    I'm in Michigan, have a CPL and open carry in my bank weekly. No problems.
    The news media plays politics more than the politicians do.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by missoak View Post
    Last week while in the bank, I noticed a young man who was obviously not a police officer, openly carrying a pistol while at the window inside the bank. Being new to the whole open carry thing, I'm confused by his actions.
    Open carry gun in the bank is not a good ideal even some States laws allow those individual to carry..in my opinion, it will cause more confusion to law enforcement officers, civilians as well as those individual criminals when they see you have a gun....
    Myself will never bring a loaded gun to any restricted area include bank, school area, or post office.... there is a website I highly recommended " Handgunlaw.us it tells you all the regulations to have conceal/open carry within fifty states....
    Personally, I prefer conceal carry.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by theonlysharpshooter1 View Post
    Open carry gun in the bank is not a good ideal even some States laws allow those individual to carry..in my opinion, it will cause more confusion to law enforcement officers, civilians as well as those individual criminals when they see you have a gun....
    Myself will never bring a loaded gun to any restricted area include bank, school area, or post office.... there is a website I highly recommended " Handgunlaw.us it tells you all the regulations to have conceal/open carry within fifty states....
    Personally, I prefer conceal carry.
    I open carry everytime I visit my local credit union. Never been a problem, either in the teller line or in the customer service representatives' offices.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  11. #40
    I can't speak to Michigan, but I OC weekly at banks in AZ, UT and Nev. I have never had a problem.

    One teller commented on my pistol, and I told her I was a crime free zone. She laughed and finished counting my withdrawl.

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