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    Around here it's usually municipalities that put up such "welcoming" signs: " (town) has a strict firearms ordinance."
    Curt Lovelace
    Bible believing, gun toting pastor
    Acton, Maine

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    I will be talking to the owners on Monday,couldn't get through to them today as I was out in the desert shooting up the place :) NV shooters had an awesome shoot today, Lots of food, full auto weapons, .50 bmg, and EXPLODING TARGETS! WAHOO! I love this place!
    "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
    Second Amendment to the United States Constitution

  4. "They Walk Among Us!"

    Quote Originally Posted by SCJeffro View Post
    I was out in Bullhead City, AZ today to do a little shopping... I stopped in at a store I have been to many times and was greeted by this SARCASM ON "beautiful sight" SARCASM OFF...



    The store is Xtreme Sportswear (they have a location here on Hwy 95 and one in Henderson on S. Valle Verde)



    I called and talked to the Clerk and asked for the name of the Manager of this store... The Manager was not there (I am going to talk to her tomorrow) so I asked the clerk about the sign and told her they would no longer get any of my business because of the new sign.

    She stated "Well we put it up because not too long ago we almost got robbed"

    I asked "how is this sign supposed to help?"

    She said "Cause people won't bring guns in"

    I replied... "OK look at it this way, Do you think the robber was carrying a gun legally"

    "No, probably not" she said

    "Ok so he was there to rob you, he probably had an illegal gun... Do you think the sign is going to stop him from coming in and robbing you again?" I asked...

    "No, probably not" she said

    I finished by saying "you are probably right, in fact the sign is going to now tell him 'there is no good guys in here with guns because they follow the rules' so now this store is an even EASIER target! Wouldn't that make sense? I mean which store would a robber rather rob, a store where they welcome legal gun owners or one that doesn't?? I would say the one that doesn't is obviously an easier target for someone looking to Rob, Rape or Murder the people inside right?"

    "I guess" she said.

    "OK thanks for your time, I will call and talk with the manager tomorrow, have a great evening!"

    Truly, they do! Credit that store manager with some seriously thought-out logic (LOL). The guy (?gal) has a guaranteed free-fire zone, and not one brain cell available to realize it!

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    UPDATE #2, GOOD NEWS!

    OK so I talked to the Owner, Linda and she was VERY nice, she explained in more detail a couple situations that led to the placement of the sign... She also stated that even though the sign is there they have "NO problem" with responsible people carrying a gun into their store... and has actually agreed to "change the sign"

    Evidently along with the "Almost robbed" incident, at some point a couple of gun owners in Bullhead City came into the store and "flaunted their guns"... they actually removed their guns from their holsters and placed them on the counter inadvertently pointing them at the teenage clerk behind the counter! They acted in a manner that was dangerous and VERY irresponsible (and worthy of punishment in my opinion)... This is what led to the sign... A couple bad apples spoil the bunch kind of thing.

    Anyway I explained my side and she said she understood my concern and that her husband collects and in fact carries a gun so they have NOTHING against gun owners or those responsible people that carry guns!

    Basically BHC police told her that they need to have a sign if they want to be able to tell people to leave that have guns... (I don't know that this is true as it is private property and I believe they can tell anyone to leave if they want) but this is what BHC police told them.

    So they are probably going to keep a sign of some sort but it will likely read something like "We reserve the right to ask you to leave if you are carrying a gun or weapon and act in an irresponsible manner" But it will not be a "No guns allowed"sign.

    I think for the most part this was a good interaction and it does show that the store owners are not Anti-gun after all. The call went a lot better than I had expected actually. I was all ready for a good fight and the owner didn't give me any reason to! :)
    "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
    Second Amendment to the United States Constitution

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    OK so I decided to offer them this sign to use... Thoughts?

    "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
    Second Amendment to the United States Constitution

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    The desire to be helpful is admirable, however I wouldn't go so far as to provide them with wording or signage. The whole thing could blow up and become a can of worms that you don't want to have to deal with.

    I do my best to avoid using the "w" word whenever possible. Doing so validates the argument of the "anti-gunners" that firearms or gun owners are dangerous people. The word is generally used to describe an offensive action rather than a defensive action.

    There are many commercially available signs out there that will serve the purpose. IANL, but IMHO a simple "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" is probably the signage that local LE was talking about. It's standard practice in a lot of places that the sign be prominently displayed in order for the business owner to request that anyone leave the premises for any reason.

    Not to knock the store owner, but if they're taking "legal advice" from the local LE, then they're in bad shape. As many of us on this board are aware, the local LE aren't the most well versed in legal matters. For "legal advice", it's best to consult with a competent attorney.

    JMHO FWIW



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  8. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by SCJeffro View Post
    OK so I decided to offer them this sign to use... Thoughts?

    I think it looks great!

    But I'm still surprised that those two that pulled out their guns are now wanted for brandishing a weapon.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by DocCurt View Post
    Around here it's usually municipalities that put up such "welcoming" signs: " (town) has a strict firearms ordinance."
    Thanks Pastor! I like pastors that also admit to look after themselves and others who don't think they need a firearm .God helps those who act like Christians !!!

  10. Yes, i know Glen and Linda Miller (owners of said store) and both are very nice, reasonable people and not to mention easy on the eyes. I too unfortunately live in the area and know what type of low life idiots walk among us with firearms. He not only collects firearms, but has a very impressive automoblie collection as well.

  11. #20
    I spoke with Linda in the first place and she was very nice, professional and understanding! I also met her at the store in Henderson when I stopped in to do some shopping. I am glad they swapped out the sign as I think it shows they are very tolerant and really know how to treat their customers!

    Good people in my book!
    "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
    Second Amendment to the United States Constitution

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