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    Still have not heard anything. Tried to call. Was transfered to voice mail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLT View Post
    There is a huge difference between statute and corporate policy.
    Ya know what? Your right, I screwed that one up...reading your post again, not sure how I got that interpretation the first time.

    My bad, guess I'm back to completely agreeing with you again.
    One must be wary of the mentality creating the problem or the law creating the crime.

    I love America and the Constitution, if you don't then get out!

  4. Question Asked to leave Kohl's for OC.

    Is the store required to post in your state?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike2dotcom View Post
    Is the store required to post in your state?
    Nope. Signs don't carry weight of law here. They can ask you to leave for any reason though.
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  6. #55
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    Just carry the firearm concealed - problem solved.

  7. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by handgonnetoter View Post
    Just carry the firearm concealed - problem solved.
    Answer me this, why should he have to conceal it? He following the law and as such doing nothing wrong.

    Comes a point when people have to say enough is enough and take a stand on a issue.

    It's his right under state law to Open Carry if he should so choose to do so.

    If we all just sit back and say "Well I don't care about that law, I'll never use it" when it comes to a law we do care about and use it will be to late.

    Point in case in my state, state law states you may carry into a court house and turn your firearm over to the bailiff. I could care less about (RSA 159:19 line two) I have no plans of ever carrying into a court house and as such will never use my right under that law. But other people may use it/care about it. So I can not/will not sit back and let the court house security come up with administrative policy's that try and deter people from using their rights under said state law.

    Beau be sure to post the phone number and extension number of the person at company headquarters. I'll be sure to call them and ask what's going on, as we all should! Together our voices shall be heard!

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

  8. #57
    I do not shop Kohl's for several reasons. Since Florida is not open carry yet. Another reason not to shop there. I personally will not OC as it makes me a target. I want OC for the occasional/accidental imprint/display. Remove the criminal charge.

    SCOTUS & Article 6 of The Constitution of the Republic of the United States of America:

    Mugler v. Kansas 123 U.S. 623, 659-60.
    "Our system of government, based upon the individuality and intelligence
    of the Citizen, the state does not claim to control him, except as his
    conduct to others, leaving him the sole judge as to all that only affects
    himself."

    20 CA 3d 1032; Mich. v. Duke, 266 US 576, 69, 449.)
    State police power extends only to immediate threats to public safety,
    health, and welfare.

    Marbury v. Madison, 5 US 137
    The Constitution for these united States is the Supreme Law of the Land.
    Any law that is repugnant to the
    Constitution is null and void of law and effect from its inception. 1.
    Do you have a right? 2. If you have a
    right and it is violated, do the laws of the country afford a remedy? 3.
    If you have a remedy at law is it a
    mandamus issuing from this court? The opinion of the court on all three
    questions was yes, yes, yes.

    Remember if no one is harmed physically or financially no crime has been committed.
    Last edited by Seeya; 03-31-2011 at 11:47 AM. Reason: premature posting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeya View Post
    Remember if no one is harmed physically or financially no crime has been committed.
    Isn't tresspassing a crime? Loitering? Public Urination? How do these crimes physically or financially harm someone?

    Overall, I agree with you. I'll be glad when OC passes in FL so I can worry less about imprinting.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Seeya View Post
    Remember if no one is harmed physically or financially no crime has been committed.
    Absolutely incorrect. Seattle ex-Mayor Nickels enacted a firearm ban in city parks and recreation facilities which violated Washington state law. Several plaintiffs filed a lawsuit in Washington state court backed by the Second Amendment Foundation. Their claim was that they were denied their rights to carry a firearm as protected under the WA State Constitutiona and the state preemption statute. None of the paintiff's were harmed physically or financially. Their entire basis for the lawsuit was the illegal denial of the right to carry a firearm.'

    The Washington Court found in favor of the plaintiffs, declared the Seattle gun ban was illegal and immediately nullified the ban, and ordered Seattle to remove any firearms ban signs within 30 days.

    http://www.king5.com/news/local/Judg...-84272067.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Seeya View Post
    I personally will not OC as it makes me a target.
    Makes you whose target? 60% of felons interviewed in prison said they would not attack a victim that they knew was armed.

    74% of felons said they won't go into a home that is occupied because they fear getting shot at.

    57% said they were more afraid of meeting an armed citizen that a cop.

    Why would a criminal choose to attack a person that is known to be armed when they can wait 2 minutes for that person to leave, or go down the street one block to the next convenience store where nobody appears to be armed and have a plethora of seemingly unarmed targets available. Also, it is so much easier for a criminal to steal an unattended gun or to buy a gun off the street with stolen money than it is to attempt to take a gun from the person carrying it.

    I don't care one way or the other if you carry your gun concealed or not. However, history and statistics show that "makes me a target" is merely a myth. I choose the benefit of the deterrent value of an openly carried firearm. Hopefully, Florida will allow that choice soon.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

  11. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLT View Post
    Absolutely incorrect. Seattle ex-Mayor Nickels enacted a firearm ban in city parks and recreation facilities which violated Washington state law. Several plaintiffs filed a lawsuit in Washington state court backed by the Second Amendment Foundation. Their claim was that they were denied their rights to carry a firearm as protected under the WA State Constitutiona and the state preemption statute. None of the paintiff's were harmed physically or financially. Their entire basis for the lawsuit was the illegal denial of the right to carry a firearm.'

    The Washington Court found in favor of the plaintiffs, declared the Seattle gun ban was illegal and immediately nullified the ban, and ordered Seattle to remove any firearms ban signs within 30 days.

    Judge's ruling ends Seattle's gun ban | KING5.com | Seattle Area Local News



    Makes you whose target? 60% of felons interviewed in prison said they would attack a victim that they knew was armed.

    74% of felons said they won't go into a home that is occupied because they fear getting shot at.

    57% said they were more afraid of meeting an armed citizen that a cop.

    Why would a criminal choose to attack a person that is known to be armed when they can wait 2 minutes for that person to leave, or go down the street one block to the next convenience store where nobody appears to be armed and have a plethora of seemingly unarmed targets available. Also, it is so much easier for a criminal to steal an unattended gun or to buy a gun off the street with stolen money than it is to attempt to take a gun from the person carrying it.

    I don't care one way or the other if you carry your gun concealed or not. However, history and statistics show that "makes me a target" is merely a myth. I choose the benefit of the deterrent value of an openly carried firearm. Hopefully, Florida will allow that choice soon.
    We have enough wako's here as it is. The ones who think they know the law and the ones who want to be macho. That covers the elected too,
    I personally can do without the hassle. but be my guest and OC here and you will find more then enough reason's to back me up on concealed carry. Besides the fact that by advertising you have weapons they track you, to hit your house. It is my experience having lived and worked in S. Fla. for years that concealed is the way to go. When I worked for HUD drug dealers and gangs didn't know if you were or were not carrying. I am alive because I was
    carrying, fortunately I did not have to draw and pull the trigger. When you have worked where I have it will become apparent to you that a gang of 10 year olds with screw drivers and knives are fearless. And yes I was more then concerned and scared. That happened in broad daylight without anyone to see except the elderly lady I had a meeting with and she came to her door with a shotgun. She feared the kids more then the drug dealers. So open carry and when you get wacked on the head and your gun is taken away by a child.

    Thurther our rights have not been enforced by we the people in a long time so untill we educate our elected/public officials, we as indivduals will have to go to court and force our rights to be honoured.


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