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    First, just conceal the damn thing and stop inviting trouble.

    Second, obey the police at all times. It will get sorted out based on the law. But if the LEO doesn't know the law you're not going to educate him on the scene. When refusing to get on your knees you're guilty of obstruction and are inviting a forceful takedown. Just shut up and let the law work its solution.

    The best fight you ever win is the one you don't have. Conceal it, shut your mouth and obey LEO commands. Damn this site is crammed with the same open-carry trouble story over and over.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    First, just conceal the damn thing and stop inviting trouble.

    Second, obey the police at all times. It will get sorted out based on the law. But if the LEO doesn't know the law you're not going to educate him on the scene. When refusing to get on your knees you're guilty of obstruction and are inviting a forceful takedown. Just shut up and let the law work its solution.

    The best fight you ever win is the one you don't have. Conceal it, shut your mouth and obey LEO commands.
    Why do you have such a problem with American's exercising their Constitutionally protected rights? Why are you so accepting of police state actions? Why don't you put the blame on the people who break the laws, rather than people who exercise their freedoms? Don't you have a stack of badges waiting to be polished?

    Quote Originally Posted by BC1
    Damn this site is crammed with the same open-carry trouble story over and over.
    Then go somewhere else. Here's a couple of places you will feel more welcome, I am sure:

    Police Forums

    Officer.com News Forums for Police Officers Law Enforcement Corrections Sheriffs - Officer.com

    If you take such exception to people exercising their right to self protection by open carrying, then don't read the open carry section of this forum! Everybody is happier. Including those of annoyed by your consistent whining.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    BC1 your wasting your time attempting to express your opinion around certain people (unless, of course it is the same as theirs!), so you just as well stop trying, your never going to get NavyLt to agree with you until you first agree with him!
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Ed Hamberger View Post
    BC1 your wasting your time attempting to express your opinion around certain people (unless, of course it is the same as theirs!), so you just as well stop trying, your never going to get NavyLt to agree with you until you first agree with him!
    And don't forget the group of alleged trolls that I am the alleged leader of.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Don't you have a stack of badges waiting to be polished?
    We don't need no stinkin badges!

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    And don't forget the group of alleged trolls that I am the alleged leader of.
    1- NavyLT
    2- G50AE
    3- Treo
    4- BigGayAl
    5- Tucker's Mom
    6- Anyone who kelcarry gets annoyed at

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLT View Post
    Why do you have such a problem with American's exercising their Constitutionally protected rights? Why are you so accepting of police state actions? Why don't you put the blame on the people who break the laws, rather than people who exercise their freedoms? Don't you have a stack of badges waiting to be polished?



    Then go somewhere else. Here's a couple of places you will feel more welcome, I am sure:

    Police Forums

    Officer.com News Forums for Police Officers Law Enforcement Corrections Sheriffs - Officer.com

    If you take such exception to people exercising their right to self protection by open carrying, then don't read the open carry section of this forum! Everybody is happier. Including those of annoyed by your consistent whining.
    Navy, I don't whine. EVER!

    I teach exclsively courses in tactical handgun defense and concealed carry. I have absolutely no prpoblem with OC. I accept it. I believe it to be constitutionally supported. I favor the right s of anyone who chooses to do so. I believe those who hassle someone because they OC are *********. But why engage in any behavior that invites trouble? When you look at the chat boards here and at other sites such as GlockTalk, the boards are chock full of people having problems. You'll never get ignorant people to understand this is legal. They will always call police and many of them don't know their own laws. Rarely do you see a complaint about someone hassled for concealed carry.

    The first rules of civilian engagnement are avoidance, deterrence and de-escalation. Why pay a lawyer over principal? There's enough problems in our world without going around advertising for more. Besides, and there's no argument from any experienced tactical instructor... it ruins the element of surprise in a confrontation. You want to OC? Fine with me. Only now I will modify my offensive strategy to perpetrate a crime against you. In a tactical confrontation, never advertise your defense (Machiavelli) and never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake (Napoleon). Taught this by my father, who studied it as a U.S. Naval Academy graduate and verteran of two wars. He forced us to study Machiavelli and the mistakes of the greates commanders in history. Also taught this by Mas Ayoob at the Lethal Force Institute. Pure and simple tactical advantage. The point is inarguable.
    Last edited by BC1; 05-23-2011 at 12:26 PM. Reason: Banging my head against a wall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Hamberger View Post
    BC1 your wasting your time attempting to express your opinion around certain people (unless, of course it is the same as theirs!), so you just as well stop trying, your never going to get NavyLt to agree with you until you first agree with him!
    Thanks Ed. Got it. I'll stop trying to convince them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G50AE View Post
    1- NavyLT
    2- G50AE
    3- Treo
    4- BigGayAl
    5- Tucker's Mom
    6- Anyone who kelcarry gets annoyed at
    I forgot,
    7- Cathyinblue
    8- localgirl

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    Yes, that's right. Just move to the back of the bus like they tell you to. Get away from that lunch counter. Don't drink at that water fountain. Don't cause a commotion. They're just doing their job.

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