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    False Imprisonment Suit Filed for Open Carry In Ohio, Government Seeks Dismissal

    Fallsnewspress.com - City seeks dismissal of civil rights complaint

    Ohio Concealed Carry supports Ohio's open carry laws. We have placed a link to the news article on our facebook page .http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ohio-C...96309637060444

    We dont outlaw spiders because the bugs are scared of them. So shall it be that we should not invade the freedom of a person to open carry simply because a few are fearful (including our police), no matter what arm it is.

    "Two officers "approached the man, [later identified as Butcher] and were able to prone him out without incident," the police report says. Butcher had an unloaded AK-47 as well as a loaded handgun on his hip which were "plainly visible," the report said.

    Butcher states in his complaint he did it "in order to educate the public to the right to 'open carry' firearms in Ohio."
    -aaron
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    I wonder why the AK-47 was unloaded?!? I carry for protection of myself and those others I choose to protect against violent crime, which pretty much precludes me from carrying unloaded firearms (excluding going to/from the gun range, obviously... but those guns are in the back of my car at those times.)

    I open carry because I have determined for myself that is the most effective means of deterring criminal activity and an added benefit to that is that it provides the general public with an image of a normal American doing normal American activities with the means available at hand to protect himself, which should be normal for Americans to do.

    I wonder if the police are going to stop people in McDonald's who have children with them and detain them for 35 minutes until they determine that the children with them are actually theirs and the adults are not kidnappers?
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    This brings back memories of the open carrier in Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Seems like Ohio law enforcement personnel do not communicate. Maybe after enough lawsuits, they will get the message.

  5. Link isn't working for me but I believe I read this story elsewhere, I also wonder why he didn't have the AK loaded as he was well within his rights to do so.

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    Fixed the facebook link. The article is coming up for me.
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    He is still awaiting a decision from the judge on a motion of some sort.
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  8. I don't think his case is going any where. I wish I had been let go last year on July 16th 2010, took me a year over $2,500 in Attorney fee's a full jury trial eleven Months later, and found not guilty of pointing a firearm at a person. You really have to be careful who see's your firearms in public.

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    Think about it!

    The whole open carry issue with police is not about fear from them! they have lots of fire power.

    It is a control issue. Do as we say not as we do.

    Open carry doen't matter to me. My state says no, and no exceptions to any visibilty of any firearm on a person, unless you have a uniform that says I am in control.

    Don't get me wrong we need police out there to pick up the pieces left over from incidents.

    We don't need people to tell us our rights that wear uniforms, because most of them don't know them their-selves.

    What we need is those in uniforms to do the job they are hired to

    Citizens are not all stupid, however not all are smart either.

    Get a cop with a bad hair day and they will do everything they can to get rid of their problems on you.

    That's my opinion
    Crime has no boundaries - Carry Safe!

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    Think about it!

    The whole open carry issue with police is not about fear from them! they have lots of fire power.

    It is a control issue. Do as we say not as we do.

    Open carry doen't matter to me. My state says no, and no exceptions to any visibilty of any firearm on a person, unless you have a uniform that says I am in control.

    Don't get me wrong we need police out there to pick up the pieces left over from incidents.

    We don't need people to tell us our rights that wear uniforms, because most of them don't know them their-selves.

    What we need is those in uniforms to do the job they are hired to

    Citizens are not all stupid, however not all are smart either.

    Get a cop with a bad hair day and they will do everything they can to get rid of their problems on you.

    That's my opinion
    I sure can tell you about a cop just wishing to get someone to jail, and just because someone (me) had a CCW and had a handgun are arrested and hauled off to jail.
    No questions were asked or was I given a chance to give my side of the story, I was just told I could tell my side to the Judge.
    When they see a handgun they know they have a chance to get someone arrested.
    Trust me after a full jury trial I know a little about this item.

    Now it's my turn and I filed a malicious prosecution suite against this guy Steven Jay Sockey and it's his turn to pay his Attorney to defend him.

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    [QUOTE=OCCI;209210][url=http://
    Butcher states in his complaint he did it "in order to educate the public to the right to 'open carry' firearms in Ohio."
    -aaron[/QUOTE]
    I'm all in favor of OC, but even I think carrying an AK even if unloaded around is a bit excessive. If people
    ask me questions about OC I'll be happy to answer them, but I won't shove it in their face "to educate the
    public".

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