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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Mustang View Post
    This has nothing to do with the "political climate" thinking that way is paranoid fantasy at worst or simple ignorance at best. You did something unsafe and possibly foolish.
    You sound like an anti-gunner, my paranoid friend. I've been handling and using firearms my entire life, and I know that I was neither unsafe, nor foolish, nor illegal in handling a legal firearm on my own property at ANY TIME of the day or night.

    No, I do not have to flex and bend in the wind of ignorance. I haven't come here looking for reassurance, I simply asked a question. You're attempting to turn this into the third degree, and you're attempting to spread fear and paranoia about gun ownership, which is the typical anti-gunner strategy.

    No, in America we need NOT be fearful and suspicious of persons handling firearms in public, and I encourage more gun owners out there to do so. We're not breaking the law. Hysterical, unwarranted fear and suspicion is leading to the loss of our liberty in this country, and those who characterize LEGAL activities as "foolish and unsafe" are the cowards who are painting us into a corner with draconian gun regulations.
    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,
    the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    TOXIC REIGN: Reclaim Our Future

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    Quote Originally Posted by nraynes View Post
    I would have reported it. I would of described the gun better but still of done the same thing. And why is that? It's dark, and late.
    So, by your reasoning, we should only feel free to handle our legal firearms openly during daylight hours. I wasn't aware that gun owners have to obey a curfew. In fact I know we DON'T have a curfew. Hey, why not suggest a new law? Bring it to a vote. And then add that to the other 23,000 federal and local gun laws that are choking the life out of legal gun ownership.

    Quote Originally Posted by nraynes View Post
    Is the front light on? How many lights on in the house? Are they using a flashlight? Looking around before they do anything? Handling the gun like a gun or toy?
    My house is a very large, two-storey home in the historic district of town, with a massive 2200 sqft front porch, and abundant lighting. The gun in question is a 12 gauge pump with a SureFire frontend — which means the shotgun itself IS the flashlight — and that's why we took it outside, to show him the throw of the SureFire torch. We weren't pointing it off the property.

    Look, I know all the rules of safe gun ownership and handling. At no place in the rules does it say, "Only handle the firearm during daylight hours, and avoid letting the public see your firearm."

    No, I don't have to live in fear of other people's ignorance. I'm not living in a cowardly Socialist nation, not yet, and I'm not going to bow and scrape to accommodate the ignorance and fear of others.
    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,
    the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    TOXIC REIGN: Reclaim Our Future

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    I re-read your post after seeing some replies and your response to the replies. I have no problem with neighbors reporting suspicious activity at my house (and hope they would continue to do so). The police responded like they should have and checked it out. I cant tell from your post where they roughed you up, took your weapon, or did anything out of the ordinary. They made the comment to do it in your backyard but I am sure they didnt want to have to respond back out there but didn't threaten to throw you in jail if you did it again. Maybe I am not seeing the problem. They only know what the caller told them. If they didnt respond and needed to, they would have had to pay out millions in damages because someone stubbed their toe when having an emotional event which caused PTSD by their none response. Two sides brother...two sides.
    Due to the increased cost of Ammunition I will be forced to discontinue warning shots as of now! USAF Chief Master Sergeant, Retired, 1979-2005

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    I never said anything about being "roughed up" nor anything else. I came in here and asked a question: Is it illegal to openly examine your own firearm on your own property in North Carolina?

    That's the name of the thread.

    Rather than answering a simple question, I've been called "foolish" and "unsafe," when Doc Mustang knows NOTHING about my safety practices. Doc Mustang apparently assumes the worst and makes unfounded accusations, when there is nothing in my original post that warrants his tirade.

    No, I do not instantly assume that anyone carrying a gun openly is up to no good, regardless of the hour of the day. Those who instantly report their neighbors based on fear and suspicion are NOT contributing to public security, but ARE contributing to a climate of more fear and suspicion.

    This isn't East Berlin. Not yet. And I won't pretend that it is, just to make the cowards feel more comfortable.
    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,
    the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    TOXIC REIGN: Reclaim Our Future

  6. Mr. Miller,

    I will reply once more and then leave you be. I am concerned by your inability to conceptualize my concerns and the concerns of several others who have replied. I would like to point out that the vast majority of dangerous, foolish and potentially deadly activities remain completely legal and unregulated. Similarly, we enjoy many rights in this country but rights do not stand alone with them must come responsibility. It is not up to me to dictate to you what you must do with your rights or the manner in which you choose to act. However, I am free to criticize your actions in whatever manner I choose using whichever words I deem appropriate.

    One of the great beauties of this country is that you are free to say and do what you like, so long as you harm no one and I am free to think you are fool for your speech and actions, go forward and live my life as I see fit to make it, however much you may disagree with me; but the moment our actions begin to endanger others we must constrain our behavior lest we trod upon the rights of others.

    I have stated that I support your right to own your shotgun. I support your right to carry your shotgun, openly, and in public at any time and in any place where you have a legal right to be. I would not under any circumstances propose or support a law forbidding you or any other free individual from doing the same.

    One thing that cannot be regulated away or restored through political protest is suspicion through circumstance. I recall an ad some years ago during the Super Bowl which involved a kitchen knife, a cat, and a jar of spaghetti sauce. We were allowed to see the build up and the innocent circumstances behind the event then at the end we were treated to what it looked like from the outside: the girl's boyfriend just killed her cat.

    The circumstances here are quite similar. From your perspective you were enjoying your right to handle firearms in public, and from your responses I am willing to concede that you likely did so in a safe manner. Checking the weapon clear, ensuring good muzzle discipline, finger off trigger, etc.

    From an outside perspective it likely appeared as if two men were about to shoot into a house in the historic district. It was to this set of circumstances that the witness felt compelled to report and to which the Police correctly responded. It is precisely your refusal to acknowledge the suspicious nature of the circumstances in which you placed yourself that I feel free to use words such as dangerous, unsafe and possibly foolish to describe your actions.

    I will close with this statement: It is surprising how similar two men intent on robbing a house and two men innocently handling a shotgun in their front yard appear to one another, it is the duty of the police to determine the difference, arrest the former and enlighten the latter on the devious appearance of their circumstance.
    "Get this through your head! We're not fighting to have everybody think the way we do, we're fighting so that people can think whatever they want! Even if they don't agree with us!"--Stalker, GI JOE #39

  7. If two guys are playing with a gun and a flahslight outside MY house at 11:00pm, I certainly hope someone DOES call the police and they DO show up to investigate. That's just common sense. (Even if one of the two guys is me)... but I can honestly say I've never felt the desire to play with my gun and flashlight outside my house at 11:00pm since I was about 7 years old.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    but I can honestly say I've never felt the desire to play with my gun and flashlight outside my house at 11:00pm since I was about 7 years old.
    If you get the urge, makesure you are wearing your CCW Badge at the time.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    If two guys are playing with a gun and a flahslight outside MY house at 11:00pm, I certainly hope someone DOES call the police and they DO show up to investigate. That's just common sense. (Even if one of the two guys is me)... but I can honestly say I've never felt the desire to play with my gun and flashlight outside my house at 11:00pm since I was about 7 years old.
    Agreed. And I don't care if it's Billy Graham and the Dalai Lama with the shotgun.

  10. #19
    I never said anything about being "roughed up" nor anything else. I came in here and asked a question: Is it illegal to openly examine your own firearm on your own property in North Carolina?
    You are absolutely correct about the question you asked which fits in with a thought that came to me today. I have heard many times that there is no such thing as a dumb question except those that don't get asked. However I have come to the realization that there are stupid questions. I it were illegal then instead of going gah-gah over your shotgun they would have arrested you. So there is your answer.

    If two men are walking around in the front yard of a house late at night with a gun and high powered flashlight then like a few others I would jump to the conclusion that there could be something funny going on. Unlike you I cannot tell the exact model and type of any gun while riding by in the middle of the night but I usually can tell if it is a long gun or a handgun. I am the owner of several guns but if you see two men walking around my house in the middle of the night with guns drawn it is OK for you to call the police even if it is me.

    In SC it is perfectly legal for a property owner to walk around his yard with his gun drawn day or night but I am not about to go testing out my latest tactical flashlight in the middle of the night with or without my gun in my hand. I appreciate my neighbors keeping watch on my house day or night and wish they did a better job. Someone walked throug my yard a few weeks back and stole a bike from the kid who lives behind me. Someone saw him walking through but didn't pay much attention.

    But back to the original question if you weren't arrested then it isn't illegal. I have never known a LEO to let someone off on that type of call just because they thought they had a fancy gun. Please rephrase your question into something intelligent so we can answer it without sounding stupid.

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    I never meant it as a personal attack, I'm just saying that with the little knowledge of the situation I have it sounds like something some one should report.

    And you never answered the part you quoted about handling it like a gun or toy. Are you shining the light at the house windows and doors? Down the street? At bushes? And again. At 11pm I would want someone to report it. Because next time it could be a BG outside your house.

    Also you never answered the question about lights. If the lights are out in your house it's gunna look a little more sketchy.

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