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  1. #111
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    Jeeze! Stop the madness!

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    Well let's see - Carry conceal and thug confronts you - he already has his gun out, you reach in for yours - you have lost ?????
    Carry open - thug sees it - picks a different target,
    "FIRE IN THE HOLE"

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    This argument will never be won, carry as you please, in my state CC only, when in open carry state AZ I can do either.

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    WoW!!
    I didn't intend to come off as some "anti-open carrier". I am just trying to figure out why Virginia businesses, particularly in Northern VA have so many "No Gun" establishments. I live in South East PA, and travel north to Tannersville and I just don't see many open carriers. Well, just because I don't see them, does'nt mean they are not there, lol. I am 110% for all kinds of legal firearm carrying and a proud gun owner! I apologize if my post came off insensitive!

    Rick

    Quote Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post
    I live in Pennsylvania and I occasionally see folks open-carry a firearm. I open-carry everywhere, and have been for almost 3 years. I am not the only one. In fact, Saturday evening more than a dozen of us are getting together at a cafe that is locally owned. They have made it clear that they support open carry, and we will support their business.

    I have never encountered a business that doesn't welcome, or at least accept, open-carry, and they say it is because they want to be consistent with state laws.

    If you prefer, you can continue to post your baseless hysterical fears, or, you could remove your head from the sand and find out for yourself that you've been lied to, and you have fallen for it, hook, line and sinker.

    I have never had an encounter that was even remotely negative, including a pleasant chat with a Sergeant of the York City PD, and a Officer of York Area Regional PD. To the contrary, I frequently have encounters with people who express profound support for the 2nd Amendment and all it's forms of carry. This is the only type of encounter I have ever had.

    But you wouldn't know anything about that, would you? No, you would rather spread the old lies and myths based on absolutely nothing, fostering Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (F.U.D.) while claiming to be a supporter of the 2nd Amendment yourself.

    Here's a clue: If you do not support the practice, then you do not support the right. You yourself do not have to open carry, but you can surely cut the crap. Those of us who know better are weary of your whining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricardo900 View Post
    WoW!!
    I didn't intend to come off as some "anti-open carrier". I am just trying to figure out why Virginia businesses, particularly in Northern VA have so many "No Gun" establishments. I live in South East PA, and travel north to Tannersville and I just don't see many open carriers. Well, just because I don't see them, does'nt mean they are not there, lol. I am 110% for all kinds of legal firearm carrying and a proud gun owner! I apologize if my post came off insensitive!

    Rick

    I did not take your post personally, neither was I offended, but I did read it as anti-OC. There are volumes of myths, half-truths, agendas, and outright lies "out there" about all aspects of the 2nd Amendment. The truth will amaze you , but you have to look for it and experience it for yourself. Many are unable to do this, many are unwilling. I am simply thrilled to see folks more carrying, and I don't care how.

    My thoughts, although I quoted you, should have been more clearly addressed to a broader bunch of people. I misunderstood what you were trying to convey, and I likewise apologize.

    I get around as much as I can, maybe we'll bump into each other one day, if so, first coffee/beer on me!

    "Carry on" and fare well. Here's hoping we never need it.
    While many claim to support the right, precious few support the practice.

  7. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare45 View Post
    This argument will never be won, carry as you please, in my state CC only, when in open carry state AZ I can do either.
    I don't know that it will never be won, but for certain, it will never be finished. I just get tired of all the 1 posters that seemingly show up to post 1 message, typically spouting some anti-OC myth, and then they're never heard from again. But I guess it could be worse. They could stick around and keep spouting that same anti-OC crap like someone I shall not name.
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    eunuch speaking about the benefits of sexual abstinence.

  8. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by georgegr View Post
    If the bad guys know you have a gun they are going to shoot you first. So go a head and open carry I'll shoot at the bad guys as they are shooting at you.
    Actually, what's more likely to happen is, the BG sees my gun, goes to pick on an apparently softer looking target. Comes across you, pulls gun, holds you up, takes your wallet and your gun, and maybe even beats the crap out of you, or shoots you for daring to carry concealed in the first place.

    Have a nice day.
    Big Gay Al: Big Gay Al's Big Gay (Gun) Blog
    An unarmed person speaking of the benefits of gun control is like a
    eunuch speaking about the benefits of sexual abstinence.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by ricardo900 View Post
    WoW!!
    I didn't intend to come off as some "anti-open carrier". I am just trying to figure out why Virginia businesses, particularly in Northern VA have so many "No Gun" establishments. I live in South East PA, and travel north to Tannersville and I just don't see many open carriers. Well, just because I don't see them, does'nt mean they are not there, lol. I am 110% for all kinds of legal firearm carrying and a proud gun owner! I apologize if my post came off insensitive!

    Rick
    When you equate open carry with "in your face" how do you expect us to take your statements? 99% of the public that I encounter either don't notice or don't care about the gun on my belt. Not exactly "in your face". Maybe those business have more no guns signs because the anti-gun groups there are more "in their face" than the people who carry guns are...and maybe when businesses SEE how many of their customers carry guns, maybe they will think twice about the no guns signs. It sure worked out well for Starbucks.
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gay Al View Post
    Actually, what's more likely to happen is, the BG sees my gun, goes to pick on an apparently softer looking target. Comes across you, pulls gun, holds you up, takes your wallet and your gun, and maybe even beats the crap out of you, or shoots you for daring to carry concealed in the first place.
    This is the guy who, according to you, will meekly turn tail and run when he sees your pistol but then turns into a vicious, aggressive animal with somebody else?? Keep dreaming, Al. The BG you described in the latter portion of your post is probably going to pistol-whip you from behind and take your weapon. Then where ya gonna be?? I'll tell you where - up a creek without a paddle. As a CCer I may very well be up that same creek.....but at least I'll still have my paddle.

    BTW, Al....why do you continue to beat this horse that you pronounced "dead" quite a while ago??
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    The hardware is the same, but the software is vastly different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricardo900 View Post
    WoW!!
    I didn't intend to come off as some "anti-open carrier". I am just trying to figure out why Virginia businesses, particularly in Northern VA have so many "No Gun" establishments. I live in South East PA, and travel north to Tannersville and I just don't see many open carriers. Well, just because I don't see them, does'nt mean they are not there, lol. I am 110% for all kinds of legal firearm carrying and a proud gun owner! I apologize if my post came off insensitive!

    Rick
    Don't apologize to somebody who insults you. Keep posting. There are a group of keyboard thugs on this site who won't tolerate any POVs that differ from their own. They want to shout-down anyone else who dares to think differently. In the process they come accross as being very insecure and overly defensive - as if they're unsure as to their true motives for OCing (Showoffs? Sheepdogs? Wannabe LEOs??) and they need to beat their chests and hurl insults in order to reassure themselves.
    (Insert random tough-guy quote here)
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    The hardware is the same, but the software is vastly different.

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