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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    So what they are saying is that a visible gun scares them so they would rather not know if the person has a gun or not? The police are more concerned about the guns they can see than the guns that are hidden? Does that pass any common sense check whatsoever?

    If the gun is more of an aversion to "bad guys" than an alarm sign or beware of dog sign on your property, than why would it not also be an aversion to "bad guys" at the public parking lot of Wal Mart, the rest area on the highway or at the ATM?
    It really is astonishing how many times per year the same logic-challenged premises show up on the same forum, posted by ostensibly unconnected people who have all apparently never seen, or more significantly, never sought, the logical alternative way of viewing the world, isn't it?

    In this particular case, I'd like to know from the poster why on Earth anyone should give one good crap what cops think about OC if OC is legal in the jurisdiction in which they work? If it puts them "on edge" and "immediately looks bad" when they see a citizen legally exercising their rights, they are exactly the kind of cops who give law enforcement a bad name among law-abiding citizens. Screw 'em if they don't like my legally-carried gun. Honor your oath and support the free exercise of all American's rights. The fact this needs to be said on a gun rights forum is sad to say the least, but that's not a comment on USA Carry because I know from a butt-load of years-long experience that it's similar on other gun rights forums too. It's a comment directed at cops and those who think they deserve deference when it's the exercise of The People's rights that are putting them "on edge." It is sad indeed that the people sworn to protect those rights, are put on edge when they see them being exercised.

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    Here's one a lot of people don't know. Police do not have the right to carry arms while in commission of their assigned duties. They have the privilege and authority to do this which they receive from us; We the People. We the People, on the other hand do have the right to bear arms... except in those communist locations of the country where the servants have somehow deemed it unacceptable and have made it illegal to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pirahna6 View Post
    I carry concealed because I don't want the attention, It is better to me to not be seen as a threat or target. This affords me the advantage I think you draw from the element of surprise.
    Open carry and concealed carry have the very same "element of surprise" since it is seeing a gun, whether in plain sight on the hip or after it is pulled from concealment, that "surprises" the bad guy.

    With concealed carry the bad guy has already attacked and when I "surprise" him by pulling my gun I just might also have to shoot him so I kinda like the open carry option because if the bad guy is "surprised" to see a gun on my hip and doesn't attack in the first place there is no chance I would have to shoot him.

    Thing is.... you get to decide which is better.... "surprising" the bad guy by pulling out a concealed gun after the bad guy attacks... or "surprising" the bad guy with openly carrying a gun in plain sight so the bad guy doesn't attack in the first place...

    Quote Originally Posted by usasgt View Post
    I am a huge fan of the conceal carry. I work with a Law Enforcement Agency in TX and many of the Deputies don't like the concept of open carry. It puts them on edge and immediately looks bad. I do open carry at home though. Castle Doctrine says I can protect my home and I do not have to conceal on my property. It is more of an aversion to "bad guys" than an alarm sign or beware of dog sign.

    This article are the laws recently passed last year in regards to CHL. Review of New Gun Laws from the 2013 Texas Legislative Session
    The inadvertent display is of the most interest in my opinion.
    Every wannabe tyrant understands that power comes from the barrel of a gun. Those who want to dominate know that if they are the only one who has a gun then they will be the dominate person. And they also know that showing a gun (open carrying) is an "in your face" expression of that power. Hence, because they want to dominate and control, they want to be the only one's with guns... and the only one's with the ability to show their guns as an expression of their power.

    But then.... there is also another power that comes from the barrel of a gun. The power to defend against those who would dominate and control... and it is that power to defend that both tyrant and criminal view as a threat to them having... power over you. And open carry is an expression of the power to resist the tyrant and defend from the criminal.

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    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    Open carry and concealed carry have the very same "element of surprise" since it is seeing a gun, whether in plain sight on the hip or after it is pulled from concealment, that "surprises" the bad guy.

    With concealed carry the bad guy has already attacked and when I "surprise" him by pulling my gun I just might also have to shoot him so I kinda like the open carry option because if the bad guy is "surprised" to see a gun on my hip and doesn't attack in the first place there is no chance I would have to shoot him.

    Thing is.... you get to decide which is better.... "surprising" the bad guy by pulling out a concealed gun after the bad guy attacks... or "surprising" the bad guy with openly carrying a gun in plain sight so the bad guy doesn't attack in the first place...

    Every wannabe tyrant understands that power comes from the barrel of a gun. Those who want to dominate know that if they are the only one who has a gun then they will be the dominate person. And they also know that showing a gun (open carrying) is an "in your face" expression of that power. Hence, because they want to dominate and control, they want to be the only one's with guns... and the only one's with the ability to show their guns as an expression of their power.

    But then.... there is also another power that comes from the barrel of a gun. The power to defend against those who would dominate and control... and it is that power to defend that both tyrant and criminal view as a threat to them having... power over you. And open carry is an expression of the power to resist the tyrant and defend from the criminal.

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