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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesMorrison View Post
    Compliance, out of fear of arrest, is nothing more than absolute submission.
    No uniform on earth gets respect from me if that respect is not given first.
    Might as well just put your hands on your head, get on your knees and "complain about it later", huh? Kind of like all those Boston residents did after being taken out of their homes by force, ie, men with automatic rifles. No warrant presented, no legal right to enforce their action, just guns and screaming with a badge.
    A uniform is just material sewn together and emblazoned with the appropriate markings. It confers no power on its own. As such, it is the actions of the individual who wears it that determines how they are perceived.

    Cop or no cop, my "spidey sense" will go off until I deduce whether the individual is a threat to me... Period.
    It's sad to hear from others that think the uniform deserves, nay demands respect over and above individual freedoms.

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    An officer responding to a call is all business and is going to get you under control first, ask questions later. You can protest all you want, all it'll get you is a pair of silver bracelets. Safety first, info second. They just covered that in the class last Thursday actually. A chance encounter in a Walmart, outside of the official status of responding to a call, is simply not something to fear in my mind. Your spidey sense is broken dude. It sounds like it goes off whenever the wind blows. You need a tinfoil hat.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed​ lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddhaKat View Post
    An officer responding to a call is all business and is going to get you under control first, ask questions later. You can protest all you want, all it'll get you is a pair of silver bracelets. Safety first, info second. They just covered that in the class last Thursday actually. A chance encounter in a Walmart, outside of the official status of responding to a call, is simply not something to fear in my mind. Your spidey sense is broken dude. It sounds like it goes off whenever the wind blows. You need a tinfoil hat.
    It sounds to me as though you are either to trusting or just flat out a "cop groupie" who believes they can do no wrong.
    Law enforcement does not get a free pass from me just because they wear a badge although it sounds like they get one from you.
    I have had my share of encounters with LE, certainly enough to justify my opinion of them.
    Sounds to me as though you either need more yourself or you need to remove those rose colored glasses you wear and take a good look at what is going on in this country...


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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesMorrison View Post
    It sounds to me as though you are either to trusting or just flat out a "cop groupie" who believes they can do no wrong.
    Law enforcement does not get a free pass from me just because they wear a badge although it sounds like they get one from you.
    I have had my share of encounters with LE, certainly enough to justify my opinion of them.
    Sounds to me as though you either need more yourself or you need to remove those rose colored glasses you wear and take a good look at what is going on in this country...


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    open carry WalMart-lol2.gif Dude, yer killin me! I've had my share of encounters with the law, including getting roughed up by a cop just because I wouldn't talk. I'm a former druggie, with a fairly nefarious past. Hell, I got sent to the principals office 32 times in one month in the 1st grade. I didn't get any better all the way through high school. All in all I just got lucky and never got busted for the serious crap that I really should have gone to jail for so my "Record" is clean. But I have to tell you this, I changed my wicked ways about 30 years ago. Not by finding the Lord or anything like that, (I'm an atheist actually), but through an association with a really good guy that my mother was fortunate enough to marry. He showed me the other side of life. I've been clean and sober for around 30 years now and reasonably law abiding since then as well. But you can believe me when I tell you, I've met met the business end of cops PLENTY of times.

    So here I am today, 54 years old, dirt poor, handicapped and in poor health, just trying to keep my head above water. But in living in a small town, (Reno) for the last 20 years, you run into a lot of cops. I found out the same thing about them that I did about black people, by and large, they're good folk just like me. (My father was a bigot. You can imagine my shock when I found out he lied to me about black folks and a TON of other things.) The more cops you get to know personally, the more you find out about them professionally.


    • First: Most are as honest as a day is long. Just like me.
    • Second: They don't like overbearing, abusive cops anymore than you or I do.
    • Third: They have an exceptionally dangerous job that often puts them in close proximity to really bad people that are more than willing to fight to the death rather than go to jail. I stay away from those kind of people.
    • Fourth: They want our streets to be safe, just like you and I do. The difference is, everyday they get into a patrol car and go out and actually do something about it. You and I, keyboard cowboys that we are, don't.
    • Fifth: Every single cop I've ever met just wants to get home to their families at the end of the day. I carry a gun in public for my own self defense because at the end of the day, I want the same exact thing.


    So my point is, those cops that tingle your spidey sense so much, well, they is us. They're good folk. Not all of them, but most. Given what they go through everyday, they're a hell of a lot gooder folk than I am. I don't know how they do it. That some are bad is just a fact about every segment of society. (I was working in a base exchange one day when security busted an old lady for shoplifting. Turned out she was the wife of an active duty, full bird colonel. Didn't have money problems, just liked the thrill of knicking the odd trinket.

    Might I be too trusting? Dude, I carry a friggin gun. Obviously I'm not THAT trusting of anyone.

    Cop groupie? Nope, not by a longshot. But I do appreciate what cops do and I respect them for doing it. I make it a point to give em a wave whenever we pass on the street. I think they put up with enough friction from the criminals and the non criminals like you that think they're criminals. But I've never ever hung out with a cop, nor have I tried to.

    Give em a free pass because of a badge? Our regional law enforcement group is forming a citizens advisory panel to address citizen complaints against the police. I have asked to be on that committee. Not only will I not be giving cops a free pass, I'll be part of the hammer that falls on dirty cops. But I WILL defend good cops against BS complaints lodged by the public. That's another thing that amazes me about cops. This kind of crap happens to them all the time, yet they still go to work everyday.

    What I do is go out everyday and I embrace life to the fullest. I'm the guy that leaves everyone I meet with a smile. Doing that makes my life richer. I gotta tell ya, I like my life so much more now than I did when I was an angry young man. And if while I'm merrily skipping down the street, (a metaphor I assure you), I happen to encounter evil, I'll put two Ranger T +P 45's in its chest without hesitation. I'm no fool.

    Like I said earlier in the thread, you strike me as a person that retreats to the shadows. You're signature speaks volumes. Step into the light my friend. You'll be happier, people will like you more, and you'll get a great tan.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed​ lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin

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    No thanks. I prefer the shadows. It's where I am most comfortable.


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    I just noticed that I changed dance partners. Thought I was playing with Treo. I see you're not he. So sorry for the mistake. You can adjust my replies accordingly, though I don't think the tenor would be much different.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed​ lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddhaKat View Post
    I just noticed that I changed dance partners. Thought I was playing with Treo. I see you're not he. So sorry for the mistake. You can adjust my replies accordingly, though I don't think the tenor would be much different.
    I like the shadows too
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    I like the shadows too
    As you should Treo... As you should.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbitcreekok View Post
    But perhaps it will make future posts easier to read. I tend to go crosseyed reading posts that are really long and run together.
    I just started addinga dash.
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    Then a new paragraph.
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    The only intelligent thing Cher ever said is "I've been rich, I've been poor. Rich is better."

    The metaphors of shadows and light remind me of her sage quip.

    I don't want to imply that I'm better than anyone because I 'live in the light'. Just because someone chooses to be more cautious in life than me doesn't mean they're bad people. I know the opposite can certainly be true. My wife is a perfect example of that. She's not trusting of anyone and thinks it's pretty much the end of the world if anyone finds out even the most basic of information about her. She is suspicious of everyone and everything. I, on the other hand, have published my name, address, phone number, and Google Earth photo's of my house so many times on the internet I couldn't even begin to keep count. Should I give more credence to her concerns. Meh! Have I been burned because of it? Not once, and I've been on the internet since the first version of the Mosaic, (Netscape), web browser hit the streets.

    So fellas, please don't think I'm putting you down because you don't think like me. I don't think you're bad guys, I promise. My wife and I have never seen eye to eye for 20 years and I know for a fact she's one of the good guys.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed​ lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddhaKat View Post
    The only intelligent thing Cher ever said is "I've been rich, I've been poor. Rich is better."

    The metaphors of shadows and light remind me of her sage quip.

    I don't want to imply that I'm better than anyone because I 'live in the light'. Just because someone chooses to be more cautious in life than me doesn't mean they're bad people. I know the opposite can certainly be true. My wife is a perfect example of that. She's not trusting of anyone and thinks it's pretty much the end of the world if anyone finds out even the most basic of information about her. She is suspicious of everyone and everything. I, on the other hand, have published my name, address, phone number, and Google Earth photo's of my house so many times on the internet I couldn't even begin to keep count. Should I give more credence to her concerns. Meh! Have I been burned because of it? Not once, and I've been on the internet since the first version of the Mosaic, (Netscape), web browser hit the streets.

    So fellas, please don't think I'm putting you down because you don't think like me. I don't think you're bad guys, I promise. My wife and I have never seen eye to eye for 20 years and I know for a fact she's one of the good guys.
    No harm, no foul my friend. I enjoy the great variety of posts by many people here, yours included.
    As long as you speak the truth and stand up for what you believe in you are just fine with me brother.


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