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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    There are occasional accounts posted by people that are walking through Wal-Mart (or wherever) run into some random stranger open carrying and succumb to an overwhelming urge to run up and introduce themselves.
    I love those Wal-Mart stories. Makes me laugh to think that people actually get all dressed up and slap on their gun to go on an adventure to trashy Wal-Mart.

    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    So, my question is how would you react if some random stranger approached you like that in public?
    If I was caught in a Wal-Mart where these encounters seem to happen, I would not be happy because I don't want to sit there and bullsh1t in a Wal-Mart with a stranger.

    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    Would you approach another person like this ?
    Nope

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    Most people that approach me about OC are just curious. They ask about laws, if I get hassled (NO, NEVER), what type of holster, type of ammo etc. So most of the time it is a pleasant conversation with like minded individuals. One way that we learn is by asking questions, just like we do on these forums. I don't OC to be a teacher, but I do enjoy helping others.

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    I treat anyone that approaches me that I do not know (or sometime don't remember knowing) as a threat. I also treat anyone that acts inappropriately on the road as a threat. Only until they prove to me that they are not a threat or better off, leave, do I reduce from what some would consider a condition orange back to a condition yellow.

    If I deem the "threat level" to be reduced then I have no problem answering their questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    I'm rather quiet and wary by nature yet when OC'ing (and I always OC) I welcome any and all questions. My experience has been anyone my radar noted as "iffy" avoid me... or I make sure I avoid them.

    This past Thursday I went to a local Taco Bell (OC'ing of course) and when I paid for my food I kicked in an extra $5 to pay for the next person to come in. That person happened to be a lady who thanked me for her lunch and then had many questions about guns, gun laws, OC, CC, and expressed her opinion about the state of our country. I spent quite a bit of time talking with her and left a printout of information about Michigan gun/gun carry laws.

    And I have no doubt I helped yet another person on their journey to become a gun carrier.

    About that $5 I left for then next person to come in.... I do that a lot because a free lunch challenges the perception that a guy with a gun is someone either unacceptable or someone to fear. It's kinda hard to think badly of someone who just bought your lunch.

    And there are many folks who are affected by that free lunch thing... the guy/gal behind the counter (who generally points out who paid)... the person who got free food... all the people standing around who heard and looked to see who paid... and everyone those people told about it all day long.

    I guess we are all different and I have no problem with folks who don't want anyone in their face/space or who just don't want to be bothered by other people. Like they used to say back in the day when I didn't have wrinkles ..."different strokes for different folks".
    You're a good man Bikenut.
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    When I am out and about, armed or not (and almost always I am openly armed), I try to always be aware of my surroundings and think ahead... like 15 to 30 seconds ahead when possible. This is even more important when unarmed for me since I am currently having some physical medical issues which preclude me from moving quickly, running, or fighting; another VERY good reason to OC.

    I am very cognizant of anyone getting close to me, especially at my strong side. If someone approaches me quickly, I really take notice. Or if they fit certain profiles which includes everything from dress, mannerisms, carriage, speech, race/ethnicity, number of approachers, etc. I mentioned race/ethnicity because that is a fact of life. Some people are reluctant to admit this due to a fear of being called some name or because of PC training. BS. You do judge people by a host of factors observed and that is just one of them. You'd be a fool to ignore this.

    People do approach me frequently to ask questions about my sidearm, the laws in my state, and similar general topics. Several years back, while standing in the enclosed area waiting for a Costco to open, a little elderly lady suddenly asked with a smile, "Is that a gun"? I answered, "Gee I hope so, otherwise I picked up the wrong thing when I left the house". She then said, "Good. I'm standing close to you where I know I'll be safe". She came here from Germany many years ago and quite frankly, that one surprised me.

    This past Saturday at a local McDonald's that does one heck of a business, three people talked to me about my little friend. One just made a comment, the other two asked questions. All were very pleasant.

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people go about their daily affairs and are virtually oblivious to what is taking place around them. With the advent of texting phones and iphones, this problem has exploded. I watched a video last year of a young well dressed lady walking along a sidewalk, glued to her phone, and suddenly she disappeared. She fell into an open manhole!! People have suddenly crossed streets and been hit by motor vehicles, had things fall on them, trip, been attacked and robbed... you name it. The absence of awareness is scary. They are perfect targets for evil doers.

    When you carry a firearm, you have the added responsibility to make sure that firearm stays in your possession. This takes serious SA and I have little respect for people who ridicule those who practice SA when armed or not. You almost hope something would happen to them to make them open their eyes.
    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?
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    Open Carry Question (Complete With Pragraphs)

    OC is extremely uncommon where i live, I've never seen somebody other than off-duty LEO OC. Since nobody's use to it, I love watching people's reactions when I OC. Most people don't even I notice I'm carrying, which is surprising because I'm 5'6" and carry a full size 1911, it kinda sticks out. The ones that do notice make it very obvious. Their eyes go straight from whatever they're doing to my right hip and stay there for at least 5-10 seconds (I'm assuming trying to figure out if it's real or not?) It's pretty amusing. My other favorite one is "Is that thing loaded?" I can never really figure out how to respond to that one other than with some half-ass witty retort.

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    My $0.02...

    I normally don't open or read anything posted by Treo because a paragraph is seldom part of the thread/post. Since it was mentioned in the thread title, I at least had the courtesy to open and read it.
    G'Day and G'lock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowjiber View Post
    My $0.02...

    I normally don't open or read anything posted by Treo because a paragraph is seldom part of the thread/post. Since it was mentioned in the thread title, I at least had the courtesy to open and read it.
    I don't get it, are you saying I don't express myself clearly in written form?
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deserteagle View Post
    I love those Wal-Mart stories. Makes me laugh to think that people actually get all dressed up and slap on their gun to go on an adventure to trashy Wal-Mart.
    Where do you go armed, Macy's? JC Penny? Oh, I get it. We must be "low class" and undeserving of the same level of protection that you are because you assume that you make more money than people who go to Walmart. There are some people who leave high school and grow up, then there are those that leave and continue to act like gossipy 16 year old girls. You are one of those girls. Do you carry your piece in a pretty pink purse?


    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    There are occasional accounts posted by people that are walking through Wal-Mart (or wherever) run into some random stranger open carrying and succumb to an overwhelming urge to run up and introduce themselves.

    Now the problem I have with this is that according to my experience and training this is also a behavior that a person who is “interviewing” you would engage in and since I really don’t have a fail safe method of distinguishing the two I would tend to treat anyone who behaved in a similar manner as a potential threat.

    I would be less concerned, however, if the person were all dressed up in his uber cool tactical NRA “Shoot me first” clothes.

    When this topic comes up and I point this out I’m told I’m paranoid or that I’m just not a friendly guy (true).

    So, my question is how would you react if some random stranger approached you like that in public?

    Would you approach another person like this ?
    First things first, what is a "pragraph?"

    Secondly, you're a paranoid and anti-social little guy arent ya? I was approached by our town's weirdo while picking out some ribeye at Walmart and he didn't quite know how to ask if he needed a permit or not to carry. In a conversation about something as politically incorrect as guns in a public place, sometimes a dude just don't know what to say. (An anti-social guy like you can probably relate to that.) Sometimes they just want to know if they can do it too. If you advocate the 2A, do so openly. Don't be the stereotypical "conspiracy theorist gun freak" and hoard the knowledge all to yourself.

    Yes, I asked a man open carrying about it and found out my rights 7 years ago. It's not a very well known fact that the 2A actually means something and you will not find out on TV or in your high school history class.

    Most people wouldn't know the 5.11 gear from a random fishing vest. Please cite an actual real life event where someone wearing the stuff they bought out of the NRA catalog got shot "first", and while you're at it, since you are implying that open carry will get people shot "first," please provide sources of real life factual events where people, NOT COPS, because there is a difference between armed citizens and LEOs, were shot "first." If you cannot cite any sources, please feel free to go on back to the concealed carry section. FYI, the khakis in the NRA catalog look exactly like any pair you can buy at Kohl's, Target, Kmart, Walmart etc. You'd be hard pressed to point out the guy wearing 5.11.

    I have a question for you: Veterans are dangerous to criminals. We frequently make the news because we beat rapists, muggers and occasionally run down bank robbers. We also frequently wear our fatigues. Can you find any single example of a veteran being shot "first" because he was wearing a DCU jacket with his name tape, branch tape on his chest and the good ol stars and bars flying on the right shoulder? <---I ask because this situation would be right in line with your statement that 5.11 gear gets people shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcreek View Post
    OC is extremely uncommon where i live, I've never seen somebody other than off-duty LEO OC. Since nobody's use to it, I love watching people's reactions when I OC. Most people don't even I notice I'm carrying, which is surprising because I'm 5'6" and carry a full size 1911, it kinda sticks out. The ones that do notice make it very obvious. Their eyes go straight from whatever they're doing to my right hip and stay there for at least 5-10 seconds (I'm assuming trying to figure out if it's real or not?) It's pretty amusing. My other favorite one is "Is that thing loaded?" I can never really figure out how to respond to that one other than with some half-ass witty retort.
    What's your favorite type of anti? My favorite is the one who thinks he has a duty to make an ass out of himself and cross a parking lot to scold me in a loud voice. Like I can't turn up the volume on my ipod lmao I also like the old lady who makes wild gestures and facial expressions and clicks her tongue. I can't help but laugh and ask them if they would like me to announce that she noticed I'm carrying a gun.

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