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    Open Carry Question (Complete With Pragraphs)

    There are occasional accounts posted by people that are walking through Wal-Mart (or wherever) run into some random stranger open carrying and succumb to an overwhelming urge to run up and introduce themselves.

    Now the problem I have with this is that according to my experience and training this is also a behavior that a person who is “interviewing” you would engage in and since I really don’t have a fail safe method of distinguishing the two I would tend to treat anyone who behaved in a similar manner as a potential threat.

    I would be less concerned, however, if the person were all dressed up in his uber cool tactical NRA “Shoot me first” clothes.

    When this topic comes up and I point this out I’m told I’m paranoid or that I’m just not a friendly guy (true).

    So, my question is how would you react if some random stranger approached you like that in public?

    Would you approach another person like this ?
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    I agree with you that they could be a threat. I would only relax some if they were a fellow CCer or a OCer!!!!

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    I wasn't going to say anything about the terminology except that you have a persistent beef with post type mannerisms.

    But I'm sure you are aware that a single sentence (though double spaced from its neighbors) does NOT constitute a paragraph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    There are occasional accounts posted by people that are walking through Wal-Mart (or wherever) run into some random stranger open carrying and succumb to an overwhelming urge to run up and introduce themselves.

    Now the problem I have with this is that according to my experience and training this is also a behavior that a person who is “interviewing” you would engage in and since I really don’t have a fail safe method of distinguishing the two I would tend to treat anyone who behaved in a similar manner as a potential threat.

    I would be less concerned, however, if the person were all dressed up in his uber cool tactical NRA “Shoot me first” clothes.

    When this topic comes up and I point this out I’m told I’m paranoid or that I’m just not a friendly guy (true).

    So, my question is how would you react if some random stranger approached you like that in public?

    Would you approach another person like this ?
    The trouble with pointing out someone's failings, like failing to use paragraphs, is that one so often makes a booboo oneself in said rant. "Pragraphs" for example. If I saw that in the title of a post I would know the OP meant "paragraphs" and would never call them on missing the "a" while typing :) By the way if I use Chrome to view this forum I see the line breaks you're inserting but not if I use my default browser IE9. I must have a setting set wrong in IE9. I can't use Chrome all the time because when I click "post" after typing a reply it says I'm not authorized to this operation even though it says I can reply to posts at the bottom of the screen. Bah.
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    I make a threat/not threat judgement when I first look at someone; second nature and has nothing to do with whether they're armed or wearing tactical clothing. It mostly has to do with their eyes. I worry about civilians who wear tactical clothing or full camo to Wal-Mart, their frame of mind. A guy in a bad frame of mind, or whose feet don't quite touch the ground because he's stoned, is a threat. I may avoid eye contact with threats because where and when I'm from eye contact is a challenge and keep them in front of me or simply walk away depending on whether I'm alone. Does this mean that I too am paranoid? My wife thinks so.
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    I've had lots of cops stop and engage me in conversation. I think it's their way of determining if I'm a threat without specifically doing so and if it makes them less nervous I'm happy to help. Nothing worse than a nervous person with a gun.
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    I'm rather quiet and wary by nature yet when OC'ing (and I always OC) I welcome any and all questions. My experience has been anyone my radar noted as "iffy" avoid me... or I make sure I avoid them.

    This past Thursday I went to a local Taco Bell (OC'ing of course) and when I paid for my food I kicked in an extra $5 to pay for the next person to come in. That person happened to be a lady who thanked me for her lunch and then had many questions about guns, gun laws, OC, CC, and expressed her opinion about the state of our country. I spent quite a bit of time talking with her and left a printout of information about Michigan gun/gun carry laws.

    And I have no doubt I helped yet another person on their journey to become a gun carrier.

    About that $5 I left for then next person to come in.... I do that a lot because a free lunch challenges the perception that a guy with a gun is someone either unacceptable or someone to fear. It's kinda hard to think badly of someone who just bought your lunch.

    And there are many folks who are affected by that free lunch thing... the guy/gal behind the counter (who generally points out who paid)... the person who got free food... all the people standing around who heard and looked to see who paid... and everyone those people told about it all day long.

    I guess we are all different and I have no problem with folks who don't want anyone in their face/space or who just don't want to be bothered by other people. Like they used to say back in the day when I didn't have wrinkles ..."different strokes for different folks".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Cavalieri View Post
    The trouble with pointing out someone's failings, like failing to use paragraphs, is that one so often makes a booboo oneself in said rant. "Pragraphs" for example.
    Hoisted on my own pretards
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    Bill - Have you tried Firefox ? I never did like Chrome.

    I'm also a bit leary of anything associated with google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwm1611 View Post
    But I'm sure you are aware that a single sentence (though double spaced from its neighbors) does NOT constitute a paragraph.
    While that statement is true in some instances, it is NOT true in all cases. In fact, I have seen entire chapters in books consisting of only one sentence. I have no problem with the paragraphing used in Treo's post. Just his spelling. In very few cases, such as "paragraphs."
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameshd View Post
    While that statement is true in some instances, it is NOT true in all cases. In fact, I have seen entire chapters in books consisting of only one sentence. I have no problem with the paragraphing used in Treo's post. Just his spelling. In very few cases, such as "paragraphs."
    In the Novelization of "The Gremlins" one entire chapter consists of the words "Billy forgot."
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    There are some topics that are hard to communicate on the internet because it seems that no matter what you say or how you say it the reader takes your words to the extreme and then attacks an extreme you never intended to defend. I think this is one of those topics.

    IMO the only reason open carry plays a part here is because it’s generally open carriers that it happens to.

    I’ve mentioned before that I was attacked one night while working as a security guard. My attacker walked up to me asking for directions to a bar, when he was a bout three feet away he started screaming something about spending two years in Iraq so a fat f**k like me could have cheap gas and jumped me.

    The fact that I was working as a guard is relevant (IMO) because if someone is willing to attack a uniformed guard (even if not armed) I have no problem believing that there are people who wouldn’t think twice about attacking an obviously armed person in the middle of a Wal Mart.

    I know that that experience, as well as others, has colored my world view but I still don’t think it’s irrational to keep my guard up to at least some degree when approached by a stranger and especially so when that stranger seems focused on my weapon.

    I shouldn’t need to clarify this but I’m going to anyway. I’m not talking about someone turning to you in the checkout line and commenting about Manning V. Tebow or the weather. I’m talking about a random stranger that has singled you out of the crowd and appears to be trying to get inside your bubble, which is exactly the kind of thing that should be pinging your SA radar.

    When I see someone exhibiting that behavior I tend to take a more defensive posture and because I do so I also try not to exhibit that behavior around people I don’t know.
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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