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    Quote Originally Posted by jessepeakdotcom View Post
    WOW- i dont want to disrespect the person that made this post but YOU ARE AN IDIOT and you have to be of the NON MINORITY decent- that isnt a racist comment but SON YOU HAVE SOME BALLS and this was complete waste of time- We all know the laws- and im sure the police do to, but who does this. WHAT IS THE POINT- if i see a person walking around "open carry" no badge, no credentials- ill be straight up honest with you, my first concern as a concealed carry holder is, man this idiot is about to snap and kill someone. I'd be on edge, im on edge when ive notice another civilian is concealed carry, not that im looking for it, but sometimes my trained eye has noticed that someone else is carrying. I have been held at gunpoint by police in a walgreens parking lot when a store clerk who was following me through the store, noticed i had a concealed firearm after i leaned over to pick something off the bottom shelf, horrible experience and ill tell you POLICE AND CIVILIANS WITH GUNS can be a lethal mix- if the police are alerted by the general public that you have a gun- My personal opinion of you and this video- COMPLETE STUPIDITY, NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR TIME, the police are doing exactly what they should have done- SOMEONE CALLED THEM TO REPORT A MAN WALKING AROUND WITH A GUN- were they supposed to shake your hand not knowing if you were some crazed cracked out fool??? CMON SON- spend your time doing something else, like i said, this is my opinion- and i dont know you- i just know i have a lot more important things to do then walk around and screw with society and the police
    Wow. I have to laugh, just to hide the disgust.
    The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. - Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessepeakdotcom View Post
    WOW- i dont want to disrespect the person that made this post but YOU ARE AN IDIOT and you have to be of the NON MINORITY decent- that isnt a racist comment but SON YOU HAVE SOME BALLS and this was complete waste of time- We all know the laws- and im sure the police do to, but who does this. WHAT IS THE POINT- if i see a person walking around "open carry" no badge, no credentials- ill be straight up honest with you, my first concern as a concealed carry holder is, man this idiot is about to snap and kill someone. I'd be on edge, im on edge when ive notice another civilian is concealed carry, not that im looking for it, but sometimes my trained eye has noticed that someone else is carrying. I have been held at gunpoint by police in a walgreens parking lot when a store clerk who was following me through the store, noticed i had a concealed firearm after i leaned over to pick something off the bottom shelf, horrible experience and ill tell you POLICE AND CIVILIANS WITH GUNS can be a lethal mix- if the police are alerted by the general public that you have a gun- My personal opinion of you and this video- COMPLETE STUPIDITY, NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR TIME, the police are doing exactly what they should have done- SOMEONE CALLED THEM TO REPORT A MAN WALKING AROUND WITH A GUN- were they supposed to shake your hand not knowing if you were some crazed cracked out fool??? CMON SON- spend your time doing something else, like i said, this is my opinion- and i dont know you- i just know i have a lot more important things to do then walk around and screw with society and the police
    Actually, I'm sure that your on edge most of the time anyway, just from reading your post.

    The Constitution is the Constitution, period. It's not up to you or anyone else to bend it to how they perceive it to be. That guy walking down the road with a gun properly holstered is of no more threat than you are in your own mind. Until they brandish the firearm illegally, they are not a criminal.

    One must be careful of the mentality creating the problem or the law creating the crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessepeakdotcom View Post
    WOW- i dont want to disrespect the person that made this post but YOU ARE AN IDIOT and you have to be of the NON MINORITY decent- that isnt a racist comment but SON YOU HAVE SOME BALLS and this was complete waste of time- We all know the laws- and im sure the police do to, but who does this. WHAT IS THE POINT- if i see a person walking around "open carry" no badge, no credentials- ill be straight up honest with you, my first concern as a concealed carry holder is, man this idiot is about to snap and kill someone. I'd be on edge, im on edge when ive notice another civilian is concealed carry, not that im looking for it, but sometimes my trained eye has noticed that someone else is carrying. I have been held at gunpoint by police in a walgreens parking lot when a store clerk who was following me through the store, noticed i had a concealed firearm after i leaned over to pick something off the bottom shelf, horrible experience and ill tell you POLICE AND CIVILIANS WITH GUNS can be a lethal mix- if the police are alerted by the general public that you have a gun- My personal opinion of you and this video- COMPLETE STUPIDITY, NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR TIME, the police are doing exactly what they should have done- SOMEONE CALLED THEM TO REPORT A MAN WALKING AROUND WITH A GUN- were they supposed to shake your hand not knowing if you were some crazed cracked out fool??? CMON SON- spend your time doing something else, like i said, this is my opinion- and i dont know you- i just know i have a lot more important things to do then walk around and screw with society and the police
    To quote you: "This is a waste of time." You shouldn't have stuck your foot in your mouth this way. Openly Carrying a firearm, where legal, is just as proper as wearing trousers to church. If you are really as nervous around guns as this post makes you appear, do your neighbors a favor, leave your firearm in a safe. The correct response when seeing someone openly carrying in a lawful manner is not "OMG, what's this nut gonna do next?" The correct response is, "I wonder why more people don't OC?"

    Have a great day and get comfortable around firearms and the proper exercising of your rights.

  5. sounds to me like that was baiting and looking to be stoped he needs to act like an adult not a kid

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    Quote Originally Posted by armyguy64 View Post
    sounds to me like that was baiting and looking to be stoped he needs to act like an adult not a kid
    Maybe he was. From reading a previous post in this thread, the PD in that area acts corruptly. Someone bringing that to light isn't someone acting in a childish manner, it's someone doing their duty as an American citizen.
    One must be wary of the mentality creating the problem or the law creating the crime.

    I love America and the Constitution, if you don't then get out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessepeakdotcom View Post
    WOW- i dont want to disrespect the person that made this post but YOU ARE AN IDIOT and you have to be of the NON MINORITY decent- that isnt a racist comment but SON YOU HAVE SOME BALLS and this was complete waste of time- We all know the laws- and im sure the police do to, but who does this. WHAT IS THE POINT- if i see a person walking around "open carry" no badge, no credentials- ill be straight up honest with you, my first concern as a concealed carry holder is, man this idiot is about to snap and kill someone. I'd be on edge, im on edge when ive notice another civilian is concealed carry, not that im looking for it, but sometimes my trained eye has noticed that someone else is carrying. I have been held at gunpoint by police in a walgreens parking lot when a store clerk who was following me through the store, noticed i had a concealed firearm after i leaned over to pick something off the bottom shelf, horrible experience and ill tell you POLICE AND CIVILIANS WITH GUNS can be a lethal mix- if the police are alerted by the general public that you have a gun- My personal opinion of you and this video- COMPLETE STUPIDITY, NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR TIME, the police are doing exactly what they should have done- SOMEONE CALLED THEM TO REPORT A MAN WALKING AROUND WITH A GUN- were they supposed to shake your hand not knowing if you were some crazed cracked out fool??? CMON SON- spend your time doing something else, like i said, this is my opinion- and i dont know you- i just know i have a lot more important things to do then walk around and screw with society and the police
    So because you don't OC and are more than just a little paranoid you don’t think anyone should OC. In fact you state

    Jessepeakdotcom Says
    “if i see a person walking around "open carry" no badge, no credentials- ill be straight up honest with you, my first concern as a concealed carry holder is, man this idiot is about to snap and kill someone. I'd be on edge, im on edge when ive notice another civilian is concealed carry, not that im looking for it, but sometimes my trained eye has noticed that someone else is carrying”


    Are you kidding? Did you even bother to read your post before hitting the send button? You wrote an indictment against every OC’er and CC’er that carries based upon your fears.

    Jessepeakdotcom Says
    “ i dont want to disrespect the person that made this post but YOU ARE AN IDIOT”


    So you don’t consider calling someone an IDIOT in caps disrespectful and an insult? I don’t think you have a clue as to what respect means.


    Jessepeakdotcom Says
    “I have been held at gunpoint by police in a walgreens parking lot when a store clerk who was following me through the store, noticed i had a concealed firearm after i leaned over to pick something off the bottom shelf, horrible experience and ill tell you”


    I have news for you my friend, if a clerk was following you around the store, and saw your firearm when you bent down…YOU WERE NOT CONCEALED. What did you do to arouse the suspicion of the clerk in the first place? And why would the police not ask for your CC permit.


    Jessepeakdotcom Says
    “if the police are alerted by the general public that you have a gun- My personal opinion of you and this video- COMPLETE STUPIDITY, NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR TIME, the police are doing exactly what they should have done- SOMEONE CALLED THEM TO REPORT A MAN WALKING AROUND WITH A GUN- were they supposed to shake your hand not knowing if you were some crazed cracked out fool??? CMON SON- spend your time doing something else, like i said, this is my opinion- and i dont know you- i just know i have a lot more important things to do then walk around and screw with society and the police”



    Now we come to the crux (?????) of Jessespeakdotcom’s thesis; That it is completely stupid to act in a manner that is absolutely legal, to exercise rights that are provided for in the Federal and State constitutions. That because the police ignore the law, try to enforce a nonexistent law that we the people need to surrender to this abuse of power.

    Do I have good understanding of your thoughts here Jesse? I personally find your post to be insulting to all OC’ers and CC’ers, and an insult to someone that stood up for his rights and by and extension stood up for all off our rights.

    As you can see, I have very little patience with the PC gun crowd that wants to bow down to government abuse of authority or “Carry my way or it is stupid” bunch.

    OC is legal people, utimmer43 good on ya lad. If you get out to Arizona, give me a shout.

    Carry On


    Steve

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    Smile Thanks, 45acp!

    If it weren't for your translation of Jessepeaks convoluted diatribe, then I wouldn't have had the patience to muddle through the horrible syntax and heinous disregard for punctuation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .45acp View Post
    so because you don't oc and are more than just a little paranoid you don’t think anyone should oc. In fact you state

    jessepeakdotcom says
    “if i see a person walking around "open carry" no badge, no credentials- ill be straight up honest with you, my first concern as a concealed carry holder is, man this idiot is about to snap and kill someone. I'd be on edge, im on edge when ive notice another civilian is concealed carry, not that im looking for it, but sometimes my trained eye has noticed that someone else is carrying”


    are you kidding? Did you even bother to read your post before hitting the send button? You wrote an indictment against every oc’er and cc’er that carries based upon your fears.

    jessepeakdotcom says
    “ i dont want to disrespect the person that made this post but you are an idiot”


    so you don’t consider calling someone an idiot in caps disrespectful and an insult? I don’t think you have a clue as to what respect means.


    jessepeakdotcom says
    “i have been held at gunpoint by police in a walgreens parking lot when a store clerk who was following me through the store, noticed i had a concealed firearm after i leaned over to pick something off the bottom shelf, horrible experience and ill tell you”


    i have news for you my friend, if a clerk was following you around the store, and saw your firearm when you bent down…you were not concealed. What did you do to arouse the suspicion of the clerk in the first place? And why would the police not ask for your cc permit.


    jessepeakdotcom says
    “if the police are alerted by the general public that you have a gun- my personal opinion of you and this video- complete stupidity, nothing to do with your time, the police are doing exactly what they should have done- someone called them to report a man walking around with a gun- were they supposed to shake your hand not knowing if you were some crazed cracked out fool??? Cmon son- spend your time doing something else, like i said, this is my opinion- and i dont know you- i just know i have a lot more important things to do then walk around and screw with society and the police”



    now we come to the crux (?????) of jessespeakdotcom’s thesis; that it is completely stupid to act in a manner that is absolutely legal, to exercise rights that are provided for in the federal and state constitutions. That because the police ignore the law, try to enforce a nonexistent law that we the people need to surrender to this abuse of power.

    do i have good understanding of your thoughts here jesse? i personally find your post to be insulting to all oc’ers and cc’ers, and an insult to someone that stood up for his rights and by and extension stood up for all off our rights.

    As you can see, i have very little patience with the pc gun crowd that wants to bow down to government abuse of authority or “carry my way or it is stupid” bunch.

    Oc is legal people, utimmer43 good on ya lad. If you get out to arizona, give me a shout.

    Carry on


    steve
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    One must be wary of the mentality creating the problem or the law creating the crime.

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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Boomboy007 View Post
    If it weren't for your translation of Jessepeaks convoluted diatribe, then I wouldn't have had the patience to muddle through the horrible syntax and heinous disregard for punctuation.
    I have a feeling it was just a troll.

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