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    Question Why open carry?

    Here in North Carolina OC is perfectly legal also, but for the life of me I can't understand why somebody would want to walk around with a handgun strapped on their hip openly exposed. For once I agree with the Iceman on something. When you open carry all your doing is inviting some little old lady to go into cardiac arrest, or some local yokel uneducated LEO to slam you face down... I will continue to carry concealed and avoid all of the headaches of OC.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Ed Hamberger View Post
    Here in North Carolina OC is perfectly legal also, but for the life of me I can't understand why somebody would want to walk around with a handgun strapped on their hip openly exposed. For once I agree with the Iceman on something. When you open carry all your doing is inviting some little old lady to go into cardiac arrest, or some local yokel uneducated LEO to slam you face down... I will continue to carry concealed and avoid all of the headaches of OC.
    This is why I think it's more of an individual freedom. You have a choice of how you want to carry your firearm, and you're choosing to conceal it. However, some would argue the virtues of open carry and would choose to carry their beliefs on their hip. People should have a choose if it's a personal freedom.

    A similar analogy would be racism and the freedom of speech. While you may not agree with the message, you would agree that people should be able to speak freely.

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    Open carry is legal in NC and I do just that. But, when in certain areas I simply cover it to avoid any problems. I often get comments like-I am going to start carrying also, what are you wearing, have mine also, glad to see you wearing it. There are also negative comments--you are a Christian and wear a gun(I refer them to Lk 23 and Neh), why are you carrying a gun, are you afraid, or just suspicious looks. Have gone to a Makarov for size and weight. Next week will be picking up a Sig 380 232. It will be my main carry-openly.

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    video

    I went to U-tube. Did a search under "open carry". There were several results.

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    I have a queston, CA is an open carry state so long as the bullets or in a magazine or pocket (Barney Fife) and the gun on the hip is empty an no rounds are in the chamber. If gun on hip is empty it is no more than a club, so with no bullets in gun (club), why cannot you carry the empty gun under a coat or light jacket, or does this fall under some CA law about concealed rocks or clubs???
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Ed Hamberger View Post
    but for the life of me I can't understand why somebody would want to walk around with a handgun strapped on their hip openly exposed.
    and it doesn't matter how many rational arguments or positive reasons we give you for open carry, you still will never understand why because you are incapable of opening your mind to accept rational reasons.

    For instance this one:
    Open carry deters armed robbery in Kennesaw

    I would rather deter a crime from happening in the first place, then defend myself against it. Open carry is deterrence, concealed carry is defense.

    And these (page 31):
    http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-fa...-5.1-print.pdf

    Fact: Every day, 550 rapes, 1,100 murders, and 5,200 other violent crimes are prevented just by showing a gun. In less than 0.9% of these instances is the gun ever actually fired.

    Fact: 60% of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they knew the victim was armed. 40% of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they thought the victim might be armed.

    Fact: Felons report that they avoid entering houses where people are at home because they fear being shot.

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    The facts never detert the ill informed, wait for the LEO to show up and outline your body with chalk, never ever help with your weapon, let them wait for the police to show up, avoid any possibility of risking your life or the life of a family member for anyone who wants to wait for LEO. Between the civil and criminal liability it is not worth the risk. I really think those who chose to wait for LEO should accept whatever happens. Gosh I hope this does not quailify as a bad response.

  9. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Hamberger View Post
    Here in North Carolina OC is perfectly legal also, but for the life of me I can't understand why somebody would want to walk around with a handgun strapped on their hip openly exposed. For once I agree with the Iceman on something. When you open carry all your doing is inviting some little old lady to go into cardiac arrest, or some local yokel uneducated LEO to slam you face down... I will continue to carry concealed and avoid all of the headaches of OC.

    I OC quite often if everyday from sunup to bed time qualifies as often, and I have not once had a problem with sending little ole ladies in to cardiac arrest or LEO's.

    I am always suprised at the response OC draws from the CC crowd. What you want is politically correct carry, as per your definition.

    I have one question; do you support my right to open carry as I support your right to OC or CC as YOU wish to carry?

    Steve

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    Exclamation OC in No. Carolina (or anywhere)

    To "NavyLt" and ".45acp"; I spoke my piece on the "open carry issue" and I stand by it. I have a permit that allows me to conceal carry, and I do from the time I get up until bedtime. Because of the reasons I stated I don't OC. If you want too, fine by me, but like I said; For the life of me I don't know or understand why someone would want too...
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    As many have stated and I agree I have no desire to OC. However, I do believe the issue to be one of the right to "bear" or to carry a firearm. In most states you must spend money in order to reach the point where you can carry concealed. The right to bear or carry should be free and the way for any and all law abiding citizens to do this in any stsate in the union should be OC. Until any law abiding citizen can OC in any state the word "bear" in the 2 amendment is being infringed.

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