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    Recently I went to purchase a rifle from a gun dealer. When the dealer got of the phone I was told that I was denied. Prior to this I had mailed my renewal for my PA CC permit, and it too was denied.
    Now, heres the kicker. Over the past 10 years at least, the only thing I got was a traffic violation 2 years ago. Also, over the past 10 years I have purchesed 7 hand guns and 3 rifles and a shot gun. In addition, both my FOID and Fla.CC permit have been renewed within the past 2-3 years. I was given from the dealer what is called a DoJ "VAL" form. with a finger print card. In the instructions is states that I provide a reason to cause a "Dened" response. But I haven't done anything that violates any of the questions on the ATF 4473 form.
    Is there anybody who can help with some insight or suggestion I can do to get this crap straightened out in my favor?

    Thanks for any assistence possible.

    PonchoPete

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    Quote Originally Posted by PonchoPete View Post
    Recently I went to purchase a rifle from a gun dealer. When the dealer got of the phone I was told that I was denied. Prior to this I had mailed my renewal for my PA CC permit, and it too was denied.
    Now, heres the kicker. Over the past 10 years at least, the only thing I got was a traffic violation 2 years ago. Also, over the past 10 years I have purchesed 7 hand guns and 3 rifles and a shot gun. In addition, both my FOID and Fla.CC permit have been renewed within the past 2-3 years. I was given from the dealer what is called a DoJ "VAL" form. with a finger print card. In the instructions is states that I provide a reason to cause a "Dened" response. But I haven't done anything that violates any of the questions on the ATF 4473 form.
    Is there anybody who can help with some insight or suggestion I can do to get this crap straightened out in my favor?

    Thanks for any assistence possible.

    PonchoPete
    Don't know, how you will make out but you wtll have to get in touch with what ever state office that handles the backround cks, and ask whats the problem, unless the traffic violation was serious, going threw the dealer, e-mail, letters, or whatever generaly gets you nowhere, you may have to get a lawyer, because once you get a blackball put on you for whatever reason, its a ***** to get out from under it

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    Sounds to me like either a case of mistaken identity or identity theft. You need to follow up on that ASAP. I would start at the bank and ask them to run a credit check then the police for a background check. Something is not right if what you say is true.

  5. PA Resident? The PA State Police handle the PICS, that's where you need to start.

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    To protest a denial, NIX APPEAL WEB SITE FBI CJIS

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    I dealt with a similar problem when i was 20 years old. Bought an AK And was denied on a savage rifle two days later. My problem was mistaken identity so now i use my social in all forms to avoid that misunderstanding again. I live in NH and it took the ATF over nine months just to tell me that an error was made and that i was all set. Good luck with everything.

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    It sounds as if someone has a similar name as you and the NICS or PICS system isn't taking a chance.

    Do you have a somewhat common name?

    If so, there is a process to get some sort of ID # or something or other that gets you streamlined in the NICS system. I'm sorry, I've forgotten what it is called, but I'm sure someone else on this forum will get you the name of this service.

    If this is not the case, here is the NICS appeal website: FBI ? Appeals Home

    and the PICS appeal website: PSP

    You have no more than 30 days to appeal in PA so make sure you do this quickly if you think you are in the clear.

    Sorry you are going through a hassle to exercise your Constitutional right turned into a privilege.

    EDIT: The special ID, that I referred to as djkivley pointed out is called a UPIN. It's a unique identification number so when you go to purchase a firearm, the FFL gives that number and you, and only you are attached to it for the NICS folks. This way, if your name is somewhat common and you (like so many others) do not want to give your social security number, there won't be any mistaken identification. I have a friend, Brian Davis, that does this. It lets him sail through any sale.
    Last edited by wolf_fire; 01-04-2014 at 08:12 AM. Reason: missing info... see EDIT
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
    ~ Benjamin Franklin (maybe)

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    I know in NH you can apply for a UPIN number which is basically another way to be identified while purchasing firearms. Hope this helps you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djkivley View Post
    I know in NH you can apply for a UPIN number which is basically another way to be identified while purchasing firearms. Hope this helps you out.
    That's it, thanks.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
    ~ Benjamin Franklin (maybe)

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    Show me in the constitution where my name has anything to do with purchase, owning or carrying arms, you can bet the British had the common name George Washington, Thomas Payne and other signers of the Declaration of Independence on a watch list. God Bless America.

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