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    Castle Doctrine/Stand your ground in PA

    Hello all,
    new here, hope everyone is well. Ok to the point, I read on the info page for Pennsylvania it states Pa is a CASTLE DOCTRINE/STAND YOUR GROUND STATE. THIS IS INCORRECT! According to the "Pennsylvania General Assembly web page: Regular Session 2009-2010
    Senate Bill 842
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    Text [History] [Votes]
    Short Title: An Act amending Titles 18 (Crimes and Offenses) and 42 (Judiciary and Judicial Procedure) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, in general principles of justification, further providing for definitions, for use of force in self-protection, for use of force for the protection of other persons and for licenses to carry firearms; and providing for civil immunity for use of force.
    Prime Sponsor: Senator ALLOWAY
    Last Action: Referred to JUDICIARY, May 5, 2009 [Senate]
    Printer's No.

    The website is at : The Pennsylvania General Assembly

    This is apparently still waiting to come up for vote so I'm not sure why usacarry would claim on the pa info page that we are already a castle doctrine/stand your ground state. Am I missing something here? If anyone can shed some light on this issue I would (and I'm sure everyone else in pa) appreciate it. Thankyou,
    -Brian-
    -The City of Fools,
    in the State of Confusion-

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    Just found out I have to leave Sunday morning for PA.

    I need a little help please. I live in a state not reciprocal with PA. I'm going there to work for about a month. I'm wondering if there is any update on the castle doctrine ? I'm not too worried about the concealed carry part as most of my time will be at the shop working or in a hotel. Castle law usually covers both work place and home, that you can have a hand gun in a tool box or night table drawer.

    Thanks for any help.
    You can run... but you'll just die tired. 3%

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    I believe that bills have been introduced recently, but none have passed thus far. However, my feeling (for what that is worth) is that the PA judicial system would be pretty reasonable regarding SD situations.


    Even though your MA permit is not reciprocal with PA, it DOES enable you to carry your loaded handgun anywhere in your vehicle. Even still, if you have a couple weeks before you must come here, I would suggest that you apply for a PA NR LTCF. All you need to do is send the application, a copy of your MA permit, and $25 (I think), to the Centre County sheriff. Their issue times have been down around a week lately.

    Without the permit, you would be able to keep your gun in the hotel room. As far as the tool box you mention, that depends on where this toolbox is located.
    The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. - Thomas Jefferson

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    Oops, sorry. I just noticed the part about having to leave on Sunday. OK, so getting a PA permit is out. One other thing to remember is that OC is legal in PA, if you are comfortable with that.
    The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. - Thomas Jefferson

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    Wow. Open carry for a non resident? Does that include in a vehicle? I don't think I'd want to open carry, seems to just invite trouble. I'm mostly concerned with having cash on me and thousands of dollars worth of tools probably in my vehicle every night. I just want to feel safe in my room at night mostly.

    If assachusetts didn't have their head up their butts and recognized more states here, we might get more reciprocal states.

    I worked in NW PA two years ago out in the boonies, and never really thought about it, I just carried it locked in my truck and in my room at night in a drawer. This trip I'll be in the Lancaster area some place, I don't know how rural it is there.
    You can run... but you'll just die tired. 3%

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldOwl View Post
    Wow. Open carry for a non resident? Does that include in a vehicle? I don't think I'd want to open carry, seems to just invite trouble. I'm mostly concerned with having cash on me and thousands of dollars worth of tools probably in my vehicle every night. I just want to feel safe in my room at night mostly.

    If assachusetts didn't have their head up their butts and recognized more states here, we might get more reciprocal states.

    I worked in NW PA two years ago out in the boonies, and never really thought about it, I just carried it locked in my truck and in my room at night in a drawer. This trip I'll be in the Lancaster area some place, I don't know how rural it is there.
    Yup, OC w/o a permit is legal, except for in Philly, resident or not. However, O/C and vehicle carry are unrelated. As soon as you enter the vehicle it is considered concealed, even if it is laying on the dashboard for all to see. The good news is that your permit IS VALID while inside your vehicle. So driving wouldn't be a problem. If OC isn't for you, you would be able to keep your gun locked in your vehicle while you are working. And again, having it in your hotel room won't be a problem.

    BTW, where will you be working? I get down there on a fairly regular basis (probably 3 times next week.) As far as Lancaster goes, the city itself can be a little rough, but you don't have to get very far beyond the city limits before you are in fairly peaceful territory. Go a little further and horse drawn buggies will be a common sight.
    The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. - Thomas Jefferson

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    Oh man. I love those horse buggies. I used to see them in Titusville and Oil City when I was there. BEST corn on the cob I ever had right from the fields. And there was one car a week came in to the shop which had hit a deer. I do paintless dent repair and travel to areas hit by hail to fix cars.

    Just found out, I'll actually be right in Lancaster.

    I don't want to be a nuisance, but I'm not understanding how my CC permit from here would cover me in a vehicle in PA?
    You can run... but you'll just die tired. 3%

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    Not a nuisance at all.

    18 Pa.C.S. 6106:
    (a) Offense defined.--
    (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.
    (2) A person who is otherwise eligible to possess a [FN1] valid license under this chapter but carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license and has not committed any other criminal violation commits a misdemeanor of the first degree.

    (b) Exceptions.--The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to:

    (11) Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.
    The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. - Thomas Jefferson

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    You are da man! Thank you for taking the time. I do believe lunch is on me. OK, have a lot of packing to do. Talk to you in the future brother.
    You can run... but you'll just die tired. 3%

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    The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. - Thomas Jefferson

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