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    Senate Version H R 3590

    Semper Fi

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricbak View Post
    Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) proudly boasts that the House Version of H.R. 3962 (http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf) would be and was available online for at least 72 hours prior to any vote; she conveniently omitted the fact that the version they actually voted on with amendments was not available online at all prior to the actual vote...
    If there are any Conservatives left in San Francisco (Pelosi's District), Unite in mass and FIRE THIS WRETCH NEXT YEAR...

    Problem is we have no fricking idea what the Senate version really looks like, because Sell-Out Prince Harry Reid, is only allowing Liberal Democrats in the closed door negotiations of the Senate Version of ObamaCare, and refuses to even allow the media in the same hallway as the closed door session is...
    We are being duped with http://democrats.senate.gov/reform/p...e-care-act.pdf

    So let me get this straight, 300 million Americans are being represented by 60% of the U.S. Senate on the most offensive piece of Legislation in U.S. History...

    That alone has to be unconstitutional...

    Or how about the 250,000 fine and 5 years (amended to be now 10 years) in Prison in the House Version of ObamaCare for not having it...
    Gee, where in the Constitution, does it state that you have to buy something as a Condition of your Citizenship...

    Not withstanding, that nowhere in the Constitution is the Federal Government granted any kind of power to impose, regulate, etc., health care.

    Or any other entitlement or free s*it...

    Free Health Care is not a Right...

    Listen to some of the mischief that has been coming from the Democrats...
    Obama says ObamaCare by end of year...
    Harry Reid says no way...
    Liberal Democrat Senators in the Closed Door Negotiations are saying it will be a done deal before Christmas...

    Other Liberal Democrats appeared gleefully on the news last night boasting "WE WILL HAVE NATIONAL HEALTH CARE BY THE END OF THE YEAR"...

    You know what that means, its going to be attempt to be passed in the middle of the night without a recorded voice vote, while everybody is on holiday, except one Representative from each party whom will simply state with no cameras rolling as they have so many times in the past...
    The Ayes Have It... Bill Passed...

    How can we stop it?

    The best suggestions I have seen so far is to get in your representatives face, so they can not possibly miss you, line up in front of their local offices in your home towns and in front of the Senate in D.C., AND call, fax their local & D.C. offices daily, relentlessly till ObamaCare is Dead, Dead, Dead...



    NoBamaCare

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    Let's add another link to read..

    http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc...r_11_18_09.pdf

    A copy of the CBO's letter to Senator Reid....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricbak View Post
    Let's add another link to read..

    http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc...r_11_18_09.pdf

    A copy of the CBO's letter to Senator Reid....
    Could they be more vague?

    ..."impose an excise tax on insurance plans with relatively high
    premiums; and make various other changes to the federal tax code, Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs..."

    "...those costs are partly offset by $149 billion in revenues from the excise tax on high-premium
    insurance plans and $100 billion in net savings from other sources. Over the 20102019 period..."

    IF their attempt was to obfuscate the tax increases and cannibalization of existing medicare & medicare programs, they succeeded...


    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    Any version of government controlled health care, whether Senate or House, must be fought. They will try to push through the process and get the bill voted in before the 2010 elections. Fortunately both Georgia Senators are Republican and will vote against the bill. Everyone needs to stress to all Senators, Democrat or Republican, that voting for this bill is a career ender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronwill View Post
    Any version of government controlled health care, whether Senate or House, must be fought. They will try to push through the process and get the bill voted in before the 2010 elections. Fortunately both Georgia Senators are Republican and will vote against the bill. Everyone needs to stress to all Senators, Democrat or Republican, that voting for this bill is a career ender.
    What scares me is how much damage these,,, what's the word, proposals will do to this country? How many jobs will be lost? How many lifes will this cost? How many families will go bankrupt because their tax liability has increased? How hard will this be to repair? How long will it take for the SCOTUS to take up the constitutionality of these things?

    I sent a couple of these questions to our notso-dynamic dual today...
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    Where Will This Lead? : Two Words Weimar Republic...

    Where Will ObamaCare & the rest of his Socialist, Tax & Spend, Entitlements on Steroids Lead? : Two Words "Weimar Republic"...

    Weimar Republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Thursday November 19, 2009
    On Today’s Program (Glenn Beck)

    The 2,000 pages that will destroy America

    The healthcare bill is heading towards a vote, a vote Glenn believes could be a turning point in American history. Will our politicians finally push us off the cliff? Senator Jim DeMint is opposing the plan, will he get enough support to stop it? Check out Glenn's interview with Senator DeMint. ( Transcript, Insider Audio)

    Healthcare bill taxes

    When polling Americans about healthcare, there are ways to get two very different answers to the same question. If you ask people “should everyone be required to have healthcare?” the answer comes back 67% yes, 27% no. But, when the question is rephrased to "should we require everybody to carry insurance, or face a federal penalty?” it flips and 64% say no, and 28% yes. Perhaps if the media would bother reporting on all of the new taxes this plan carries with it, support would dip even lower? Glenn stops the show to go over just a few of the new taxes in the healthcare bill. ( Transcript, Insider Audio)

    A vote for Obamacare is a vote for THIS

    For decades progressives have slowly penetrated our education, political, and judicial systems in an attempt to further progressive ideas. To get an idea of what we are in for when Obama brand Progressivism is finally fully implemented, one need look no further than Venezuela and Cuba. How are they handling the global economic crisis? Watch Glenn's latest Beck Talks video blog for the answer. WATCH


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