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    Exclamation What is the BEST way deal with the current congress?

    What is the best way to deal with the current congress?

    Leave them be?

    Write them letters and e-mails?

    Call Them on the phone?

    Vote them out of office?

    Drag them out of office kicking and screaming?

    File Treason paperwork against them in their home states and have them arrested on sight and tried?

    Tar and feather them Circa 1865-1870?

    Encourage Civil disobedience to get their attention?

    What will it take for them to listen to the people?

    What will be the breaking point when they get the clue that the average bubba is pissed off about how they conduct themselves?
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    File Treason paperwork against them in their home states and have them arrested on sight and tried?

    It may come to civil disobedience one day but I am not looking froward to that day. I believe they may be pushing and pushing hoping that they can cause true patriots to do something that they can use as a reason to declare Martial Law.

    The following article appeared in the November SWAT Magazine by Stewart Rhodes.

    MARTIAL LAW: NOT ON OUR WATCH
    The term “martial law” is increasingly being thrown around.
    Last fall Congress was told, behind the scenes, if it did not pass the bailout for the banksters on Wall Street, there would be chaos in the streets that might lead to “martial law.”
    Then the mayor of the town of Schenectady, New York publicly considered calling on the state governor to impose “martial law” so the National Guard could temporarily replace a supposedly corrupt police department.
    The Harrisburg, Pennsylvania chapter of the NAACP called for “martial law” so the National Guard could stop “gun violence” among local gang bangers. The chapter president stated, “The Guard is for natural disasters. I don’t know any more of a natural disaster than of our young people being killed.”
    I can picture Sarah Brady smacking her forehead and saying to herself, “Gee, why didn’t I think of that? Who cares if the Supreme Court’s Heller decision ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to keep and bear arms? Just declare martial law and you can scrap the Second Amendment altogether, along with all those other pesky amendments in the Bill of Rights that get in the way of making us safe!”
    I’m just waiting for Al Gore to call on Obama to declare martial law to stop global warming.
    As we head toward a very real possibility of economic collapse, we hear increased chatter among media talking heads, two-bit politicians, and supposed “legal scholars” about how martial law may be necessary. They should be careful what they wish for, because they just may get it—good and hard.
    “Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” — William Pitt the younger.
    Get this straight: there is nothing in the Constitution that grants the President power to declare martial law. Not one word. Go look. The term “martial law” is nowhere to be found in the text of the Constitution, and for damn good reason.
    The bleating sheeple calling for martial law don’t even know what martial law is.
    Martial law is absolute rule by the military, which replaces the civil government. Under martial law, the will of the military commander in the field is law. Martial law is what we impose on a conquered enemy population in wartime, as was done to defeated Germany and Japan at the end of World War II. Martial law is what we imposed on Iraq after the toppling of Saddam. Nowhere in our Constitutional design is our military allowed to rule over the American people as if they were a conquered enemy population.
    The closest thing to martial law in our Constitution is suspension of habeas corpus, with Article 1, Section 9 stating, “The Privilege of the writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or invasion the public Safety may require it.”
    Habeas suspension must be declared by Congress, and may be used only during an actual invasion or insurrection. And habeas suspension allows only for detention without indictment, for whatever time period Congress specifies by statute. During the Civil War, for example, the habeas statute passed by Congress allowed for detention without indictment for only 20 days, after which the government had to indict or release.
    Habeas suspension does not allow the President to use military trial on civilians or to establish executive tribunals and then execute those convicted. Detention during habeas suspension is not the same thing as martial law.
    “Martial law” is really the absence of law, since there would be no need for Congress to do anything except sit on its hands. And under martial law, the very will and mere word of Obama, as Commander in Chief, would be “law,” and if you violated his “law” of the moment, whatever he decided should be law as he sat at breakfast.
    He could have you and your entire family black bagged, interned, tried by a hand-picked secret tribunal and executed (or simply shot on sight), all without any written law, without indictment, and without a jury trial. Your only possible appeal would be to him. With all the powers of supreme legislator, supreme judge, and supreme executioner in the same hands, he would be an absolute dictator.
    One of the causes of revolution listed in our Declaration of Independence was the attempt “to render the military independent of and superior to the civil power,” and it was the attempt to disarm the people during martial law under General Gage that finally sparked the shooting war. The Founders did not intend that whoever happened to be elected President could scrap the Constitution and rule as a military dictator during some “crisis.” Ours is a government of laws, not men.
    As James Madison put it in Federalist No. 47, “The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands … may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.”
    Our Constitution is designed to divide and limit power, and the President is not above it. Like everyone else in public service, he is sworn to defend the Constitution, and when he breaks his oath and attempts to assume all the powers of a tyrant, it is our right, it is our duty, to resist that attempt. (For more information, go to www.oathkeepers.org/oath/martial-law.)
    Obama’s right-hand man, Rahm Emanuel, once said, “Never let a crisis go to waste. They are opportunities to do big things.” Imagine what “big things” he and his ilk would have planned for your life, liberty, and property under martial law. The gun confiscation gleefully imposed during Hurricane Katrina—as if a bit of bad weather scrapped the Second Amendment—should be your first clue. Imagine how much worse it would get under nationwide martial law. Take a look at the sad history of Germany under the Nazis and Russia, China, and Cambodia under the communists and you will get your answer.
    If the President declares martial law under the pretext of some “crisis,” you should take that as a declaration of war on you, your kids, and your rights, because once it starts, it won’t stop until our Republic is scrapped forever. Do not accept it.
    And if you are in the military or police, do not go along with “martial law” and do not enforce it. Your oath is to defend the Constitution, and that Constitution does not permit its own destruction at the hands of a willful politician.
    If the empty suits in D.C. try it, stand down and tell them to saddle up and go out to enforce their “martial law” themselves. Then sit back, pop open a cold one and enjoy the show. We the people will take care of the rest. </i>
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Uhhh, I think the letters, emails and phone calls will probably work more effectively. Ask them how they like the view from their office and how bad they'd like to see it after the next election.
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    People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.--River Tam

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    Exclamation In the days after the civil war...

    Many politicians found themselves in dire straights because they did not truly represent the people. Many were tarred and feathered and rode out of town on a rail.

    Some had charges referred against them. most lost their offices.

    Congress then had a better aproval rating than it has now.

    If we do not learn from history, it does tend to repeat itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogriz91 View Post
    Uhhh, I think the letters, emails and phone calls will probably work more effectively. Ask them how they like the view from their office and how bad they'd like to see it after the next election.
    That's all well and good if they were concerned about being re-elected. The incumbency rate is something like 98% and the system is corrupt. All the proof you need of that is the picture of the Black Panthers with weapons standing outside a polling booth, a cute little drama for which, apparently, they are not going to be prosecuted. I understand that we must TRY to work within the system, but if the system's rigged & corrupt...

    I mean, for God's sake, we have had avowed COMMUNISTS working as advisors in the White House. I would put NOTHING past this crop of thieves, cheats, and liars. Nobody wants mayhem, but it may be forced upon us and we must be prepared for this eventuality.

    Let's see what happens next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogriz91 View Post
    Uhhh, I think the letters, emails and phone calls will probably work more effectively. Ask them how they like the view from their office and how bad they'd like to see it after the next election.
    Well the letters, emails and phone calls didn't work when we told them no tax payer bail outs and so far they have not worked on this Obama care. We have got plenty of taxation without much representation.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Write letters, emails and attend local meetings when available. Continually let them know how you feel and, of course, always be polite and professional. Vote for those who stand for what you want, against those who either don't listen or who stand opposite of your beliefs. Yelling at them or calling them names will only shut them down and make it much more difficult to accomplish anything.

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    The States need to assert their sovereignty under the 10th amendment. See the 10th Amendment Center. It's called nullification. It is the States' responsibility to notify the Federal government that they are overstepping their specifically enumerated powers of the US Constitution. Even with that, they are still collecting taxes beyond belief.

    Florida is discussing the creation of tax escrow accounts, where the State would collect Federal taxes by determining how much the Federal gov't actually deserves. Therefore, if the State determines that the Federal gov't is collecting taxes to perform unconstitutional duties, they would not collect and deliver those monies. If/when this happens, you will likely see the US Military deployed to that state to collect. See the Whiskey Rebellion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filbert View Post
    The States need to assert their sovereignty under the 10th amendment. See the 10th Amendment Center. It's called nullification. It is the States' responsibility to notify the Federal government that they are overstepping their specifically enumerated powers of the US Constitution. Even with that, they are still collecting taxes beyond belief.

    Florida is discussing the creation of tax escrow accounts, where the State would collect Federal taxes by determining how much the Federal gov't actually deserves. Therefore, if the State determines that the Federal gov't is collecting taxes to perform unconstitutional duties, they would not collect and deliver those monies. If/when this happens, you will likely see the US Military deployed to that state to collect. See the Whiskey Rebellion.
    This is pretty significant. Would you please keep us updated on this? Thanks.

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