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    Quote Originally Posted by festus View Post
    I am a crotchety old tyrant that would require mandatory firearms training for all non felons and by executive order would authorize open carry for every military member on AD or honorably retired.

    I would also work hard to deal with over crowding in the prisons by outsourcing those hardcorps lifers to Antarctica in a bold move to colonize the frozen south.

    The national guard would rotate through the borders and secure them.

    The congress and senate would all be under investigation for accepting bribes and kickbacks from lobbyists.

    Taxes would be a straight 10% tax with no refunds and no exemptions (the Good Lord himself only asks for 10% why should the Govt get more? A 10% tax is much simpler and with no refunds it will be even across the board...The IRS can now be integrated into ICE and help secure all the non taxpaying illegal aliens.

    The constitution would be read weekly in my radio address to all school students to ensure they get it. No student would be allowed to graduate without being able to pass a constitution test and balance a checkbook...no execptions and no dropouts.

    Illegal aiens would be charged with a felony and deported.

    Felons sneaking into the country would be dealt with by the Natl. Guard as a military threat.

    Finally Drug dealers...the war on drugs is on like donkey kong...you deal you die...why do you think I let all those military guys carry for status???

    Now do you guys really want a tyrant like that for president???
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    All good except for the war on drugs -- I say legalize, standardize and tax.

    Not that I agree with some of the nastier mind-altering chemicals mind you, i just look at the current costs in that area and think it would be better off to leave it be -- people will still find ways to get high. Use the tax revenue from it to fund better educational programs warning people of the dangers (not that that does much good either).
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    I am all for a war on drugs I am however against the fact that the Federal government claims to be fighting against drugs and at the same time may be doing drug running to pay for various covert operations. In other words I think there is some hypocrisy on their part. Would anyone be surprised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by festus View Post
    I am a crotchety old tyrant that would require mandatory firearms training for all non felons and by executive order would authorize open carry for every military member on AD or honorably retired.

    I would also work hard to deal with over crowding in the prisons by outsourcing those hardcorps lifers to Antarctica in a bold move to colonize the frozen south.

    The national guard would rotate through the borders and secure them.

    The congress and senate would all be under investigation for accepting bribes and kickbacks from lobbyists.

    Taxes would be a straight 10% tax with no refunds and no exemptions (the Good Lord himself only asks for 10% why should the Govt get more? A 10% tax is much simpler and with no refunds it will be even across the board...The IRS can now be integrated into ICE and help secure all the non taxpaying illegal aliens.

    The constitution would be read weekly in my radio address to all school students to ensure they get it. No student would be allowed to graduate without being able to pass a constitution test and balance a checkbook...no execptions and no dropouts.

    Illegal aiens would be charged with a felony and deported.

    Felons sneaking into the country would be dealt with by the Natl. Guard as a military threat.

    Finally Drug dealers...the war on drugs is on like donkey kong...you deal you die...why do you think I let all those military guys carry for status???

    Now do you guys really want a tyrant like that for president???
    Sounds like a good platform to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by festus View Post
    His mother was not 25 years of age and had not lived for at least 5 years over the age of 18 in the USA. The law is actually very clear for the time frame in question. Also the fact that his father was a British subject at the time of his birth further complicates things with the question of dual citizenship. The original founding fathers did not want any dual citizens in a position of authority and wrote the original law as such.
    What law are you referrencing? Please cite anywhere in the United States Constitution where a United States Natural Born Citizen is defined. Congress was only given the power to determine the Naturalization process, Article 1 Section 8, therefore all definitions of Natural Born are not binding. If you disagree theb you're supporting our current congress to define Natural Born. An Admendment or Article in the Constitution ratified by all states can determine the definition of Natural Born.

    Only two ways around it, the Supreme Court or the States create a new amendment.
    States can't even agree on the 2nd Amendment rgihts, no way will we agree on Natural born.
    Birther's will not be addressed by any District, Circuit or Supreme court till after 2012...
    Prime example: Birther Queen gets fined - Orly Taitz Sanctioned for $20,000 The Washington Independent

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    Quote Originally Posted by melloyello View Post
    What law are you referrencing? Please cite anywhere in the United States Constitution where a United States Natural Born Citizen is defined. Congress was only given the power to determine the Naturalization process, Article 1 Section 8, therefore all definitions of Natural Born are not binding. If you disagree theb you're supporting our current congress to define Natural Born. An Admendment or Article in the Constitution ratified by all states can determine the definition of Natural Born.

    Only two ways around it, the Supreme Court or the States create a new amendment.
    States can't even agree on the 2nd Amendment rgihts, no way will we agree on Natural born.
    Birther's will not be addressed by any District, Circuit or Supreme court till after 2012...
    Prime example: Birther Queen gets fined - Orly Taitz Sanctioned for $20,000 The Washington Independent

    Swim with the shore until you find your exit, not against the riptide; you'll just consume your energy and end up out to sea.
    You have to look at law archive such as the Cornell law library circa 1961. It has been posted on this forum before and is an easy find if you look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by melloyello View Post
    What law are you referrencing? Please cite anywhere in the United States Constitution where a United States Natural Born Citizen is defined. Congress was only given the power to determine the Naturalization process, Article 1 Section 8, therefore all definitions of Natural Born are not binding. If you disagree theb you're supporting our current congress to define Natural Born. An Admendment or Article in the Constitution ratified by all states can determine the definition of Natural Born.

    Only two ways around it, the Supreme Court or the States create a new amendment.
    States can't even agree on the 2nd Amendment rgihts, no way will we agree on Natural born.
    Birther's will not be addressed by any District, Circuit or Supreme court till after 2012...
    Prime example: Birther Queen gets fined - Orly Taitz Sanctioned for $20,000 The Washington Independent

    Swim with the shore until you find your exit, not against the riptide; you'll just consume your energy and end up out to sea.
    In my view this is a question that must be satisfactorily answered by at minimum, congressional hearings which include a televised chain of custody from the so-called Hawaiian Vault and presentation of his LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE...

    Anything less and we get a do-over of this entire year; Joe is not eligible because Obummer is not; the Congressional Democratic Majority rode Obummer's coat-tails in the same election so they must go through a new run off election as well...
    all appointees, nominees, legislation IS NULL & VOID...

    Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Howard Dean & David Axlerod and every Secretary of State in the Country get tried for treason...

    Once again, eligibility questions for John McCain & Barack Obama were raised at the same time; Congressional Hearings were immediately held to determine John McCain's eligibility to be President; to-date no such hearings have been held to determine the eligibility of Barack Obama...

    How did Barack Obama win his first election?
    By getting all his opponents disqualified...

    The United States Supreme Court has no Authority to Amend the Constitution...
    They do however, have the much abused, usurped right to interpret what the Constitution means and issue a opinion, which is used in case-law as precedent.

    An amendment may be ratified in three ways:

    1. The new amendment may be approved by two-thirds of both houses of Congress, then sent to the states for approval.
    2. Two-thirds of the state legislatures may apply to Congress for a constitutional convention to consider amendments, which are then sent to the states for approval.
    3. Congress may require ratification by special convention. The convention method has been used only once, to approve the 21st Amendment (repealing prohibition, 1933).

    Regardless of the method of proposing an amendment, final ratification requires approval by three-fourths of the states.

    WE THE PEOPLE additionally, have the "Capstone Grievance" which can be applied against any of the 3 branches of the Government, including Federal or State or other Municipality as the ultimate power remains in the hands of WE THE PEOPLE...

    Reaffirmed by the First Amendment:
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

    Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as President of the United States:
    "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."





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