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  1. Quote Originally Posted by benjammin View Post
    I agree they are more useful than not (I am a member), but some things they do don't make much sense. My two examples: The nice NRA hat you get when you join is made in china ; They sent me some DVD of shooting stuff/training, and said it's free (1st in a series). Since, they've sent me 3 or 4 letters wanting me to send it back if I don't want the rest, but they send envelopes that need a stamp. I sure as hell am not wasting a stamp to send back something I didn't order. Call me petty, but they could've put a postage paid envelope in the first letter and saved 2 or 3 stamps.
    I am a life member, but still get aggravated about some of their decision-making. One of the things that bugs me is their rating of political candidates. I believe that they rate candidates simply on their support or non-support of the 2nd ammendment. Sounds reasonable right? Therefore, just for example, Max Baucus of Montana, gets an excellent grade for support of the Second Ammendment. However what the NRA forgets is that the Second Ammendment is a package deal. For example, Baucus has been Obama's "step and fetch" and one of his prime supporters of the nightmare healthcare bill. What has this got to do with the Second Ammendment? Unreasonable government control in any area of our lives can be used to encroach and eventually violate second ammendment rights. For example, it wouldn't surprise me one day if firearm owners have to pay higher health-care premiums than the "sheep" among us. The NRA has too narrow a focus when rating these candidates. If government restricts your speech, raises taxes, or controls your health care, it can eventually impact your 2nd ammendment rights as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MONTANA View Post
    I am a life member, but still get aggravated about some of their decision-making. One of the things that bugs me is their rating of political candidates. I believe that they rate candidates simply on their support or non-support of the 2nd amendment. Sounds reasonable right? Therefore, just for example, Max Baucus of Montana, gets an excellent grade for support of the Second Amendment. However what the NRA forgets is that the Second Amendment is a package deal. For example, Baucus has been Obama's "step and fetch" and one of his prime supporters of the nightmare health care bill. What has this got to do with the Second Amendment? Unreasonable government control in any area of our lives can be used to encroach and eventually violate second amendment rights. For example, it wouldn't surprise me one day if firearm owners have to pay higher health-care premiums than the "sheep" among us. The NRA has too narrow a focus when rating these candidates. If government restricts your speech, raises taxes, or controls your health care, it can eventually impact your 2nd amendment rights as well.
    ... you will remember that Max Baucus built his political career on steady and sworn promises to NEVER vote for any gun control. Then, in 1994, and at the special request of his then-buddy, Bill Clinton, Baucus betrayed his longstanding promises to Montana voters and became the single swing vote on pass/fail procedural votes on both the (NRA Backed) Brady Bill and the Feinstein semi-auto and magazine ban bill.
    Saying that Baucus was the swing vote on pass/fail procedural votes means that if he had kept his promises to Montana voters, neither bill would have passed the Senate or Congress. Max's betrayal made it happen...

    Speaking of the lowlife from Montana known as Max Baucus...
    NRA gives $ to "Gun Control Baucus":
    Keep and Bear Arms - Gun Owners Home Page - 2nd Amendment Supporters

    09/09 Baucus Health Care Draft to Fine Reluctant Gun Owners up to $3,800
    Thursday, September 10, 2009:

    http://gunowners.org/a091009.htm

    Montana Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) Thinks You’re Too Dumb to Understand Legislation:
    http://gunowners.org/a100209.htm

    And NRA Endorsed Montana Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) has voted 100% for every stinking nominee (all of them committed gun banners & or anti's), 7 of them on Obama's first day in office... and Socialist Tax & Spend and Entitlement piece of legislation that the Socialist Gun Ban Obama & Company have put in front of the Senate this year...
    Including but not limited to: now sitting Gun Ban Sonia Sotomayor Associate Supreme Court Justice; whose decisions will likely impact us for at least the next 40 years...

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    ... you will remember that Max Baucus built his political career on steady and sworn promises to NEVER vote for any gun control. Then, in 1994, and at the special request of his then-buddy, Bill Clinton, Baucus betrayed his longstanding promises to Montana voters and became the single swing vote on pass/fail procedural votes on both the (NRA Backed) Brady Bill and the Feinstein semi-auto and magazine ban bill.
    Saying that Baucus was the swing vote on pass/fail procedural votes means that if he had kept his promises to Montana voters, neither bill would have passed the Senate or Congress. Max's betrayal made it happen...

    Speaking of the lowlife from Montana known as Max Baucus...
    NRA gives $ to "Gun Control Baucus":
    Keep and Bear Arms - Gun Owners Home Page - 2nd Amendment Supporters

    09/09 Baucus Health Care Draft to Fine Reluctant Gun Owners up to $3,800
    Thursday, September 10, 2009:

    09/09 Baucus Health Care Draft to Fine Reluctant Gun Owners up to ,800

    Montana Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) Thinks You’re Too Dumb to Understand Legislation:
    Senator Baucus Thinks You?re Too Dumb to Understand Legislation

    And NRA Endorsed Montana Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) has voted 100% for every stinking nominee (all of them committed gun banners & or anti's), 7 of them on Obama's first day in office... and Socialist Tax & Spend and Entitlement piece of legislation that the Socialist Gun Ban Obama & Company have put in front of the Senate this year...
    Including but not limited to: now sitting Gun Ban Sonia Sotomayor Associate Supreme Court Justice; whose decisions will likely impact us for at least the next 40 years...
    Thank you for that information. I'm embarassed to admit that I did not know all those facts. I do know that I regard Baucus as a compromising little worm who either has no moral compass or one that is seriously flawed. It is embarassing to reside in a state that has a reputation for rugged individulaism and self-reliance, then see the voters elect this little butt-kisser.

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