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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by gogriz91 View Post
    It's not evident in her responses to detailed questions regarding the economy or the situation in Afghanistan that she has a better than cursory depth of knowledge of the issues, having the TV on very much at all probably makes that situation worse rather than better. I hate to admit it but she doesn't seem to be getting any smarter on the issues, apparently in spite of efforts to inform her. As a primer to her foreign policy, I would recommend shutting off Fox and setting up an account at OpenSource.gov, a much better level of effort to educate rather than entertain. As for the economy, I have a New Mexico public education and I know no country in history ever taxed and spent itself into prosperity and that if deficit spending was bad under Bush it can't possibly be good under Obama. That's a departure point at the very least that could be built on.

    Wallace is leading her to answer what many people to include me still question, does Palin know enough to debate a serious Democratic contender for any race? The VP debate against Biden was a disaster in my opinion and I was pulling for her, it's still an issue because her "exposure", not unlike Obama's is very well and carefully choreographed to specific audiences.
    Your opinion (which is perfectly valid as your opinion) doesn't seem to match that of David Broder, a long-term, center-left writer for the Washington Post. He seems quite impressed with her command of the issues. So am I. Contrary to public opinion it doesn't take a rocket scientist (or an Ivy League grad) to effectively govern. I'm more than willing to try some plain ol' American courage and common sense.

    FWIW.

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  3. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by JJFlash View Post
    Your opinion (which is perfectly valid as your opinion) doesn't seem to match that of David Broder, a long-term, center-left writer for the Washington Post. He seems quite impressed with her command of the issues. So am I. Contrary to public opinion it doesn't take a rocket scientist (or an Ivy League grad) to effectively govern. I'm more than willing to try some plain ol' American courage and common sense.

    FWIW.
    I place no faith in pundits, the President has the toughest job in the world, the "learn as you go" school is a recipe for disaster as witnessed in the Obama administration. I don't think she's incompetent, but I can't see that she's competent enough to do what will have to be done in the next 20 years in this country. The President makes unpleasant, unpopular decisions only someone in that office can make. I think a charismatic conservative with strong family values could restore a tarnished sense of honor to the office but that individual also has to know how sausage gets made and be willing to fight it out with Congress ala Reagan to get something done, Palin is not that candidate and unless something dramatic changes about how she carries herself in front of the camera, the best she could hope to do is not split the vote and give the majority to a liberal. FWIW, McCain was the drag on the ticket, not Palin, it was McCain's lack of charisma by comparison to Obama's that cost him dearly.
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  4. #23
    Sarah Palin has more actual hand-on executive experience then Obama did when he ran or does now for that matter...

    She was a successful small-business owner, member of her city council, mayor and governor...

    Obama until Black Tuesday January 20th, 2009 had never even ran a grocery store...

    Obama was a inept State Senator from Illinois and a Jr. U.S. Senator whom did not even serve his first term out; he spent most of his partial term of U.S. Senator from Illinois running for President...

    as Governor went against her own party relentlessly when there was corruption & such...

    She went after the tax & spend agenda of her predecessors with a fricking hatchet from day one...

    First day as Governor she put the Governor's Jet on Ebay...
    With the proceeds going back to the people of Alaska...

    Love to see AirForce 1 & 2 and Marine 1 & 2 up on Ebay...

    She has a stellar, perfect record on the Constitution & the Second Amendment...

    AND IF she was no threat WHY have the DNC & the media relentlessly going after her non-stop from the day she was selected as the VP Running Mate?

    BECAUSE SHE IS A VERY VIABLE THREAT...

    Obama had a team of some 30 lawyers land in little old Wasilla, Alaska less then 24 hours after she was nominated, trying to find someway to discredit her and destroy her...

    Her Speech at the RNC had more T.V. viewers then Obama's & McCain's combined, the largest in U.S. History...
    If she had been alongside somebody like Alan Keyes or Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul or Bob Barr, instead of John "Juan" McCain we would not have the Socialist in Chief we do now...

    I have no doubt that many stayed home and would rather have gouged out their corneas with a butter knife then vote for RINO John "Reagan Conservative" McCain, even with Sarah Palin...

    Sarah Palin is real people, that is why she is so likable, she means what she says, and does what she says she is going to do...
    She truly speaks from the heart...

    She could be our next door neighbor's wife or another soccer/hockey mom with our kids at practice...

    I'll admit most of my life, I thought I would never vote for a woman as Commander in Chief; I no longer feel that way thanks to Sarah Palin...

    Sarah Palin got into politics for all the right reasons...
    Plus she gets bonus points for never being a B-Movie Actor or a Lawyer...
    Or some Rich Ivy League snob, looking to get into politics in order to push some liberal socialist utopia agenda...

    And she was raised on the tenets this country was founded on...

    Small-limited Government, and Self-Reliance...

    She is a Avid Hunter & Fisher and Sport Shooter, since she was a little girl, whom owns weapons that have been on slick-Willie Clinton's so-called Assault Weapons list...
    And she fundamentally, understands the Second Amendment Ain't about Duck Hunting...

    When you are not a lawyer or an actor or a tv anchor or reporter, you may stumble from time to time when up against the latter snakes whose sole purpose in life is to make you look stupid and misinformed...
    While you are being open & straight forward...

    When you grow up in a part of the world, that still believes that people should treat each other respectfully, and have no intention of doing you any harm, you might find yourself a little out of your element at times...
    But obviously she is a quick study, and learns from her mistakes and is not afraid to admit when she makes them...
    Unlike say the entire democratic party and biased media...

    Those of us that have actually researched her a bit first hand, and listened closely to what she says and has said find her to be a breath of fresh air...
    the real deal...

    And outside of her political career she actually has been in the common peoples shoes so to speak, she was not born with a silver spoon in her mouth, she worked hard like most of us for everything she has had, and her family has experienced much of the same problems & setbacks most of us here in the real-world have...

    I would gladly vote for her as President or V.P., and she is more conservative then any President or Vice President we have had since Grover Cleveland...

    Somebody whom thinks American Values, Traditions and our Constitution and Second Amendment are more important then trying to fundamentally transform America into Europe's Socialist view of what America should be...


    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

  5. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by gogriz91 View Post
    I place no faith in pundits, the President has the toughest job in the world, the "learn as you go" school is a recipe for disaster as witnessed in the Obama administration. I don't think she's incompetent, but I can't see that she's competent enough to do what will have to be done in the next 20 years in this country. The President makes unpleasant, unpopular decisions only someone in that office can make. I think a charismatic conservative with strong family values could restore a tarnished sense of honor to the office but that individual also has to know how sausage gets made and be willing to fight it out with Congress ala Reagan to get something done, Palin is not that candidate and unless something dramatic changes about how she carries herself in front of the camera, the best she could hope to do is not split the vote and give the majority to a liberal. FWIW, McCain was the drag on the ticket, not Palin, it was McCain's lack of charisma by comparison to Obama's that cost him dearly.
    Pundits' opinions are worth what everyone else's is worth; I merely cite it as evidence that a serious, national pundit, who is not conservative, has come out with pretty strong praise for how Palin is currently conducting herself. FW that's W.

    I do not believe that the current president is suffering from "learn as you go" syndrome. I believe he knows exactly what he's doing. That's my opinion, for what it's worth.

    I worry that she does find out how the "sausage is made" because that means she's learned to play the Washington game.

    Any president, with the strong backing of the people, can accomplish far-reaching goals. That would include Pres. Palin, IMO.

    I, too, worry about splitting the ticket.

  6. #25
    Palin is so hard to gage due to the hatred of her from the state-run media. I'm not sure if resigning from being Governor of Alaska was the best thing for her to do, but I certainly would like to hear from those who know more about this than I do.
    It is a depressing sign in today's politics that in order to not be a Washington insider, you have to be from a location that is over 4,000 miles from the capitol!
    However, I think that is the main reason she is hated so, in that she is an ordinary person, and a conservative, who rose to the top without the help or involvement of the Washington elite.

  7. #26
    I am well aware of Sarah Palin's resume and what I still find ironic is that she had a reputation of being an exellent debater on local issues, something that is yet to be seen on the national stage. I believe she resigned the governorship to make money in order to pay for legal fees to fight off spurious ethics suits brought about by liberal special interest, a sad but effective tactic of the left. As much of her appeal is her lack of Washington experience as it is her experience in the state of Alaska but the WH is still in Washington, not in Juneau or Wasilla. I want to see the Sarah Barracuda I've heard about eat Katie Couric, Joe Biden and anyone else who gets in front of her alive.

    Most Americans hate the idea of the Washington insider but have to begrudgingly admit tht policy still flows from Washington, it's where the bulk of decisions get made. The mid terms will be a great indicator of just how badly Americans want to elect candidates who will try to cut spending. I'm no fan of how business gets done any more than anyone else here is but that's irrelevant, policy flows from Washington.

    Obama is in a learn as you go mode, he thought he could run the table with majorities in both houses and his agenda is so bad he can't even accomplish that. He's moving at a fast pace because he knows he'll lose the majority at the mid term and short of small victories for some elements of his fringe his first year has been a failure, worse than any equvalent year of Bush by a large margin. He's learning Bush was fired as much as he was elected and that America has no stomach for his "progressive" agenda, I can only imagine Brown's election ended any doubts as to the displeasure of the public with his agenda. Obama's greatest weakness is his ego, he's essentially asked a good portion of his party to walk the plank for him in Congress. He thinks he's so much smarter than anyone else that he can pull his agenda off, he's gotten a pass from the media to try to do it. Health care in the form he desired it will continue to fail, cap and tax will never make it out of the Senate now. He's shooting for a quick victory for his fringe with the repeal of "don't ask don't tell" but is trying to get someone else to walk the plank for him, something I think will ultimately fail unless he personally intervenes and signs a Presidential decree ordering it. Hard to believe things have changed so dramatically for the Dems from a year ago, I'm personally relieved as I'm sure many others are.

    I consider liberal media's hatred of Palin, Rush, Beck and O'Reilly as a complement. The media has traditionally lived in a gilded world they tried to convince their viewers they were living in. The us versus them routine against Conservatives has backfired, a perfect example of this is despite Couric's percieved slam dunk against Palin and a recent interview with Obama she still lags in ratings despite an inordinant amount of money spent on her. Media's seal of disapproval often earns my seal of approval, a sentiment more and more American's are sharing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogriz91 View Post
    I place no faith in pundits, the President has the toughest job in the world, the "learn as you go" school is a recipe for disaster as witnessed in the Obama administration. I don't think she's incompetent, but I can't see that she's competent enough to do what will have to be done in the next 20 years in this country. ...
    sorry to snipped but I want to reply to this part of what worry you abpit the "learn as you go" thing...and ask you a question:

    Have you ever had a President in this country that on the onset, finished being POTUS and let the others occupy the White House, then run again as President? Every person that will ever be President for the first that will occupy the White House as POTUS will always be a first timer, the "learn as you go" President.

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  9. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    Sarah Palin has more actual hand-on executive experience then Obama did when he ran or does now for that matter...

    She was a successful small-business owner, member of her city council, mayor and governor...

    Obama until Black Tuesday January 20th, 2009 had never even ran a grocery store...

    Obama was a inept State Senator from Illinois and a Jr. U.S. Senator whom did not even serve his first term out; he spent most of his partial term of U.S. Senator from Illinois running for President...

    as Governor went against her own party relentlessly when there was corruption & such...

    She went after the tax & spend agenda of her predecessors with a fricking hatchet from day one...

    First day as Governor she put the Governor's Jet on Ebay...
    With the proceeds going back to the people of Alaska...

    Love to see AirForce 1 & 2 and Marine 1 & 2 up on Ebay...

    She has a stellar, perfect record on the Constitution & the Second Amendment...

    AND IF she was no threat WHY have the DNC & the media relentlessly going after her non-stop from the day she was selected as the VP Running Mate?

    BECAUSE SHE IS A VERY VIABLE THREAT...

    Obama had a team of some 30 lawyers land in little old Wasilla, Alaska less then 24 hours after she was nominated, trying to find someway to discredit her and destroy her...

    Her Speech at the RNC had more T.V. viewers then Obama's & McCain's combined, the largest in U.S. History...
    If she had been alongside somebody like Alan Keyes or Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul or Bob Barr, instead of John "Juan" McCain we would not have the Socialist in Chief we do now...

    I have no doubt that many stayed home and would rather have gouged out their corneas with a butter knife then vote for RINO John "Reagan Conservative" McCain, even with Sarah Palin...

    Sarah Palin is real people, that is why she is so likable, she means what she says, and does what she says she is going to do...
    She truly speaks from the heart...

    She could be our next door neighbor's wife or another soccer/hockey mom with our kids at practice...

    I'll admit most of my life, I thought I would never vote for a woman as Commander in Chief; I no longer feel that way thanks to Sarah Palin...

    Sarah Palin got into politics for all the right reasons...
    Plus she gets bonus points for never being a B-Movie Actor or a Lawyer...
    Or some Rich Ivy League snob, looking to get into politics in order to push some liberal socialist utopia agenda...

    And she was raised on the tenets this country was founded on...

    Small-limited Government, and Self-Reliance...

    She is a Avid Hunter & Fisher and Sport Shooter, since she was a little girl, whom owns weapons that have been on slick-Willie Clinton's so-called Assault Weapons list...
    And she fundamentally, understands the Second Amendment Ain't about Duck Hunting...

    When you are not a lawyer or an actor or a tv anchor or reporter, you may stumble from time to time when up against the latter snakes whose sole purpose in life is to make you look stupid and misinformed...
    While you are being open & straight forward...

    When you grow up in a part of the world, that still believes that people should treat each other respectfully, and have no intention of doing you any harm, you might find yourself a little out of your element at times...
    But obviously she is a quick study, and learns from her mistakes and is not afraid to admit when she makes them...
    Unlike say the entire democratic party and biased media...

    Those of us that have actually researched her a bit first hand, and listened closely to what she says and has said find her to be a breath of fresh air...
    the real deal...

    And outside of her political career she actually has been in the common peoples shoes so to speak, she was not born with a silver spoon in her mouth, she worked hard like most of us for everything she has had, and her family has experienced much of the same problems & setbacks most of us here in the real-world have...

    I would gladly vote for her as President or V.P., and she is more conservative then any President or Vice President we have had since Grover Cleveland...

    Somebody whom thinks American Values, Traditions and our Constitution and Second Amendment are more important then trying to fundamentally transform America into Europe's Socialist view of what America should be...

    See Bohemian there is more than one thing we can agree on.

  10. #29
    gogriz91,

    We agree more than we disagree. I, too, am a realist and understand "the game". It's just that I'd like to see "the game" exploded by someone who doesn't give a rat's behind about the "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" modus operandi of the "ruling aristocracy". That's why I don't care about Palin's insights into Washington politics. Again, my assumption is that if enough of "We, the People" are behind her, she can really rattle some cages.

    As for B.Hussein, while I agree he has not managed to push as much of his socialist agenda into law as he undoubtedly would've liked, he HAS succeeded in pushing deficit spending to levels which, IMHO, are designed to collapse this country's economy, thus producing "the crisis" this administration wants and needs to effectively throw the Constitution out the window (what's left of it, anyway). And I believe THAT is his primary agenda.

  11. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker's Mom View Post
    sorry to snipped but I want to reply to this part of what worry you abpit the "learn as you go" thing...and ask you a question:

    Have you ever had a President in this country that on the onset, finished being POTUS and let the others occupy the White House, then run again as President? Every person that will ever be President for the first that will occupy the White House as POTUS will always be a first timer, the "learn as you go" President.

    .
    Grover Cleveland had split terms if memory serves me correctly.

    Yes, every President has a learning curve, some steeper than others. The steeper the curve, the more painful the lessons are on the rest of us. Obama seems immune to education though, cap and tax dying in the Senate back in August should have been the first indicator he'll have to move to the center. He has the ambition of lucifer though and the ego to boot, his greatest strength is also his biggest achille's heel. What incumbent President sets up an "Office of the President elect", only one who loves himself as much as Obama does. Every day, more and more Americans are realizing there is something worse than George W. Bush, and that something is Barack Obama. I wonder if they're beginning to wake up and knock the guilt chip off their shoulder?

    Palin is rattling cages and I see her being another VP for a better candidate than McCain or a Sec State for who knows. While it's very interesting to see the press hunt her to their detriment in my opinion, I wonder how long she can stand the pressure, time will tell.
    Heavily medicated for your protection.

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