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  1. #101
    +1, Bohemian. Keep plugging away, My Friend. Slowly, but surely, eyes will be opened...and, for those who refuse to see, eventually they will know that you were right!
    Conservative Wife & Mom -- I'm a Conservative Christian-American with dual citizenship...the Kingdom of God is my 1st home and the U.S.A. is my 2nd.

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  3. #102
    Something to consider, the units that are notified of deployment are notified by the Secretary of the Army, not the president, the Secretary of the Army is a US born citizen and has legal authority to deploy soldiers overseas. Therefore, they arent disobeying the orders of the President of the United States, They disobeying the Secretary of the Army who is nominated by the President and confirmed by the U.S. Senate, the Secretary of the Army is a non-Cabinet position serving under the Secretary of Defense, The Secretary of Defense is appointed by the President with the approval of the Senate, and is a member of the Cabinet. These persons have Senate Approval for thier positions, therefore they are able to order this officer to war, and it is a lawful order as they have the legal authority granted by the constitution of the United States. He is violating his oath and disobeying a direct order of a superior officer.
    The only reason he is doing this is so that he can subpeona the Birth Certificate and all persons eligible or able to verify its authenticity and can legaly challenge the validity of the citizenship of the President and his parents. Its an end run around the other legalities that have not worked out the way they want it to. I didnt vote for the man, however the President is the legally elected representative of the people of the United States and therefor my Commander in Chief. We joined the military to deploy and defend the people and the Constitution of the United States against all enemies both foreign and domestic. Not to sit in some little cubical in the Pentagon planning golfing outings. Deploy, and do your job, otherwise you are making other soldiers have to suck up and ruck up and do your job in your absence. You are letting the team down, and hurting fellow soldiers who have to shoulder the extra burden of your job on top of thier own. Get on the plane.

  4. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    WTP Obama Citizenship Challenge - National Press Club, DC Dec. 8 2008

    Either the Constitution matters or it does not...

    Lieutenant Colonel Terry Lakin deserves our respect & gratitude...

    "Important principles may, and must, be inflexible." - Abraham Lincoln

    We can debate forever on the legitimacy of scanned images on the internet; what is irrefutable is none of it nor any of the other currently available public information on the subject is acceptable as evidence in a court of law...

    Including but not limited to the ever changing statements from Dr. Chiyome Fukino clearly in conflict with Hawaii Revised Statutes Section 338-18, et.al.

    In short nothing has been presented to a court of law or congress or any Secretary of State from a verifiable primary source via a certified chain of custody...

    WHY has Barack Obama been treated differently then John McCain?

    Barack Obama needs to be held to the same standard that John McCain was when the questions were raised at the same time about both gentleman's eligibility...

    John McCain did the honorable thing on camera, in front of Congress, provided everything they asked for via a verifiable, certified chain of custody; and stated If you want or need anything else just ask...

    Barack Obama lawyer'd up...

    Does anybody not find it the least bit curious that during the campaign when all the William Ayers & Reverend Wright stuff came up; he had multiple press conferences on the subject, almost immediately; yet on the question of eligibility he has not had a single one...

    IF he is not hiding his eligibility he is hiding SOMETHING criminal & impeachable...
    Moreover, he is pulling all stops to prevent himself from being held to the same standard John McCain was...

    U.S.C. TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47 1001.
    (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, WHOEVER, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
    (1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by ANY trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
    (2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
    (3) makes or USES any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry; shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
    (b) Subsection (a) does not apply to a party to a judicial proceeding, or that party's counsel, for statements, representations, writings or documents submitted by such party or counsel to a judge or magistrate in that proceeding.
    (c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to—
    (1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or
    (2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.

    Barack Obama on the issues...

    Anti-Constitution - Yes
    Anti-First Amendment - Yes
    Anti-Second Amendment - Yes

    Gun Control - Yes
    Socialism - Yes
    Marxism - Yes
    Communism - Yes
    Tax & Spend - Yes

    Obama Failed to tell the American Public that in his first 30 days in office he spent more money than all other administrations did in their entirety, combined... Inflation Adjusted !
    He has repeated that feat by a factor of 4 since then and that does not include the Unconstitutional ObamaCare he is trying to shove down our throats...

    It should be further noted that we are 120 Trillion Dollars with a T in the hole, and not counting the 12 Trillion dollars with a T that he admits to; what does that 108 Trillion dollars with a T and counting consist 100% of?
    Our current Unconstitutional Socialist Entitlement Programs, that he neither has a plan to pay for nor a clue how to pay for...

    • Social Security
    • Medicare
    • Medicaid

    U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

    Where does this all lead?
    Same place it always has in the history of the world when some charismatic leader shoves a Socialist Utopia down the throats of his fellow countrymen...

    Weimar Republic:
    Weimar Republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The First Fundamental Principle of Constitutional Interpretation: Your Rights Don't Come From Government...
    Oath Keepers: CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC 101: YOUR RIGHTS DON’T COME FROM GOVERNMENT

    National Rifle Association - On the Second Amendment, Don’t Believe Obama:
    NRA-ILA ::

    National Rifle Association - Barack Obama IS the most anti-second amendment President in U.S. History...
    Gun Ban Barack Obama

    Second Amendment Foundation - Barack Obama - Gun Ban Agenda...
    SAF Press Release :: HOLDER NOMINATION SIGNALS OBAMA’S TRUE ANTI-GUN RIGHTS AGENDA

    Gun Owners of America - Barack Obama - Punish American Gun Owners, Not Drug Cartels...
    Obama Pushing Treaty To Ban Reloading

    WTFU SHEEPLE

    Article II of the U.S. Constitution charges the president to "faithfully execute" federal law, makes the president commander-in-chief of the United States armed forces...

    The U.S. Supreme Court held that (members of the military) "act at their own peril" when obeying presidential orders when such orders are illegal...
    1804 (Little v. Barreme)

    Obama Sends 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan...

    Sound Familiar?


    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

  5. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    Looks like pretty good reasons to me...

    O'Reilly & others at FoxNews are either being Censored by the FCC or other Federal Entity or they are just flat out dropping the ball on this one...

    I have and others have personally dispelled any validity of the newspaper content, with primary source support; very easy to find in the archives of this site and others...

    IF he is not hiding his birth-right eligibility he is hiding something Criminal & Impeachable...

    "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." - Thomas Paine
    Yeah, Right, what ever you say...

    They 'Planted' a birth announcement and reception invitation in the news papers 49 years in advance just in case their son ever became president 49 years later...

    The state of Hawaii is lying about everything,

    Even though the doctor that delivered him kept meticulous records,

    Even though the hospital kept meticulous records, and they can still find the family was charged extra for Semi-Private room, charged extra for a telephone, and 'Mom' was charged for the slippers she wore home,

    Even though the state of Hawaii issued a birth certificate with whitenesses,

    Even through the attending nurse is still alive and remembers the mixed race couple that had a baby with complications,

    After all that, the 'Birthers' are still beating a dead horse...
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    American medical Association states that at any given time, roughly 15% of the population is legally 'Deluded' to the point of being incompetent...

    Ironically, thats roughly the same percentage of far right wingers that believe PRESIDENT Obama wasn't born in the US.

    That's also the same number of people that believe 'Christ' is going to show up in their lifetimes (12%),
    The same number of people that believe in 'Alien Abduction' (14%),
    The same amount of people involved in the 'Tea Party' (18%),
    The same amount of people that believe in a massive government conspiracy in the death of JFK (15%),
    Same as the 'Taxers', roughly 14% that don't think the federal government has the right to tax the population,
    Roughly 12% of the population believes the world trade centers were 'Imploded' by our own government.

    'Birthers' are roughly 10% of the population...
    They are also mostly old, middle class white guys that don't want to pay their taxes.

    You can't persuade ALL of the population at any given time, there will be 'Believers' in any silly thing that gets posted on the internet...
    Be it religion, silly ideas about 'Conspiracies' about President Obama's birth place, or alien abduction.

    The more mentally deranged people are, the more likely they are to 'Believe' in extremist propaganda.

    The really sad part is,
    They actually believe there is a 'Government Conspiracy' to censor the media, this even after such things as Watergate, Iran/Contra & Monica Lewinski's blue dress...
    They believe in an invisible man in the sky, with a long beard and flowing robes that knows EVERYTHING you do and think,
    They believe aliens carrying off cattle and people, alien ships crashing, event though there hasn't be one single piece of evidence show up in all the years of believing 'Aliens' or 'Gods' are coming from the sky...

    And you can't tell these deluded people any different.
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    What they should be concerned with is the insurance, pharmaceutical, petroleum/big energy companies running things with bought and paid for congress and senate...

    What they should be concerned with is the staggering rise in green house gasses in our atmosphere that WILL lead to global warming,

    What they should be concerned with is the Arizona law requiring all citizens to carry state issued identification at all times...
    Pretty hard to do when you are swimming or just getting the news paper in your own yard or going about your business.

    "PAPERS NOW, MACH SCHNELL!"

    Doesn't matter what you are doing, you can be completely legal, but they STILL get to stop you for no reason and give you the third degree... Instant 'Probable Cause' to stop you 20 times a day and 'Check Your Papers'...

    How long until the state ordered micro Chips show up!



    Sieg Heil! The new Arizona state salute, tomorow the entire USA!

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    What you should be worried about is the exploding population.
    There is NOTHING WRONG with this planet that a 80% reduction in population wouldn't cure.
    There are just too damn many people competing for too little resources!

    1860s saw the first BILLION people on the planet,
    By 1900, the SECOND BILLION people showed up,
    In 110 years the population more than tippled to 6.5 billion.
    At this rate, we are looking at 18 Billion in the next 60 years!

    SO!
    Instead just complain about short term problems instead of actually DOING SOMETHING!

    Personally,
    I'm working towards self sufficiency.

    I'm about 85% 'Off Grid',
    I still use some propane and gasoline, but I've reduced the consumption by about 85% and I make all my own electricity and water, and grow most of my own food.

    I make a point of not wasting ANYTHING that isn't absolutely necessary.
    Metal cans get recycled, aluminum cans make money for me,
    Newsprint goes into compost, so do most food scraps, garden waste, ect. to cut down on the synthetic, usually petroleum based fertilizers and bug/weed sprays.

    If the 'Militia' and 'Tea Party' people did the same thing, instead of spending millions on gas guzzling motor homes and rallies, then they would actually be DOING SOMETHING about the issues at hand.
    Instead of just making hot air and spreading hate & discontent...
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    YOU DID NOT INHERENT THE EARTH FROM YOUR GRANDPARENTS,
    YOU ARE BORROWING IT FROM YOUR GRAND CHILDREN!


    START ACTING LIKE IT UNLESS YOU JUST HATE YOUR GRANDCHILDREN!

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    More right wing propaganda...
    I'm spending my money on self sufficiency and renewable/sustainable lifestyle...
    That actually makes a DIFFERENCE!

    I'm 12 years into this 'Project', and I'm about 85% to a ZERO carbon footprint.
    I've saved a TON of money along the way...
    Solar Thermal and Solar Photo Voltaic arrays were designed to pay back in 20 years,
    But with the increases in fossil fuels and electricity, water, ect., They have paid back in 9 years and been giving FREE, RENEWABLE/SUSTAINABLE energy the past 3 years.

    Everything from planting the garden over the Leach Bed for the septic system,
    To collecting rain water and 'Gray' water for the garden and utility use has paid BIG dividends, which I've used for even more 'Sustainable' projects.

    I have a few firearms, I have most of the 'Toys' the other guys do, and I've missed NOTHING other than the bills and pollution,
    Plus I've had a darn good time planning, thinking and researching things through to make this system even more efficient and pay be back even more!

    I guess if a guy isn't smart enough to think things through, can't understand something like gravity (Water runs down hill), and doesn't care about the quality of life and quality of his water/food supply...
    Then he can keep making the same mistakes people have made over the past 100 years or so...

    The definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting the same results!

    The last 150 years were the infancy of modern chemistry,
    If you want to keep using something made by a toddler that doesn't work in the long run, then by all means keep doing what you are doing!

    If you care to educate yourself and step up to 'Global Thinking', then by all means, do a little research, and actually DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ACTUAL PROBLEMS!

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    The less Oil/Petroleum products I use the less our troops are going to die for oil.

    The less carbon I inject into the atmosphere, the better world I leave behind for future generations.

    The less children you have relieves the very limited resources that are left on the planet and the better lifestyle those descendants will have...
    And the less pollution/waste those decedents will have to deal with.

    You can gripe, complain, whine all you want to...
    But that is fixing the 'Blame' when the actual 'Blame' rests on the last 4 generations, including YOU!

    I'd rather spend my time fixing the 'Problem',
    Much more constructive and satisfying!


    I've been to 'Third World' countries, and since we aren't the industrial supplier to the world anymore like were were for so many years after WW I & WW II ruined all manufacturing capacity in Europe, Africa & the far east,
    I'd say it's time to get off your dead, complaining butts and start making some changes since the US has priced it's self right out of the world economy...

    I'm not going to live with no clean water, no tillable agriculture land, and no decent shelter...
    I'm doing something about MY FUTURE and my descendants future RIGHT NOW.

    Taking time to try and explain all this is taking me away from building a 'Shadow Garden' to grow things like mushrooms, gensing and other things that grow on a shaded forest floor, but if even ONE PERSON gets an 'IDEA' from this an actually MOVES HIS HIND END towards making his particular location a better place,
    Then it's worth it!
    Gensing and mushrooms sell for INSANE prices around here, and take virtually no care, so that is money in my pocket for future expansion!
    (plus, I LOVE wild mushrooms!)

    I'm thinking most of this is going to land on the '15% Believers' ears/eyes and will be summarily dismissed...
    You can't debate/inform anyone that is delusional in a rational manner,
    But hopefully there is at least ONE clear headed person out there!

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    As for the officer that won't deploy, he can resign his commission at any time.
    If he doesn't deploy and chooses to stay in the military, he's WRONG!

    At the very least, unfit to perform his duties, and at worst, well, a traitor to the US military and everyone that served in those forces.
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    The best thing you can do right now, this minute is STOP BUYING ANYTHING MADE OUTSIDE OF THE US!

    China is selling explosives and explosive components to Iran, which are blowing up our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Russia is selling oil & natural gas to the US, but supplying arms to countries that are NOT US friendly and support terror and extremists.

    Saudi Arabia is selling BILLIONS of dollars in oil to the US, while the vast majority of the World Trade Center hijackers and a large portion of militants in Afghanistan are Saudi Nationals.

    Stanley, MAC and Black & Decker tools are owned by Stanley, and they are now an 'Off Shore' company because they didn't want to pay US taxes even though the US is their primary market.

    Nike shoes are made all over the world, mostly in 'Third World' countries...
    So for the sake of 'Fashion' you are supporting the poverty and 'Sweat Shops' that breed terrorists.

    Personally, I'll stick with my US brands of work boots, jeans, shirts, tools, ect.
    I've even been buying US made solar hardware, US made pumps for my water projects, US made vehicles.

    When I can, I buy LOCALLY,
    This puts food on the table for local people I know and trust,
    It sends their kids through school,
    And they spend that money right back here in my local area buying raw supplies, hiring people I know, putting food on their tables and sending their kids to school...

    I WILL NOT shop at 'Wally World'...
    Wally-Mart is China's biggest customer, and that cheap import crap gets dumped on the US market while China supports countries that we are at war with.
    (ask yourself where Iran got the nuclear centrifuges to make enriched weapons grade nuclear materials)

    I don't pay for 'Frivolous' things like Cable/Satellite TV.
    The local TV stations produce enough information, and so does the internet.
    I know the weather, the primary stories in world events, ect, and I don't pay $100 a month for it.
    With the new digital signals, I pick up about 10 stations which has more crap on than I can filter through in one day anyway...
    And I REALLY don't care about the latest 'Vampire' movie trailers or what 'Feminine Wash' I should use...
    I'm not much on mindless 'Idiot Box' offerings... Oprha, Soaps, Bill Oriley, Glen Beck, or the dumbest of all, Lush Dimbulb...

    I can make my own mind up by actually looking up the facts on any particular subject on the internet...

    I don't have a cell phone. The little woman has one for emergencies, one of those pre-paid things so we don't have to be nailed to a contract.
    The company has issued me several, but mysteriously, they all quit working right away so I don't have to carry them! :)

    I can have a 'Home Phone' with internet access very cheaply, and I'm just not important enough to have to be 'Connected' to everyone at all times...
    I have dinner without someone blabbing on the phone about nothing, I don't get interrupted with text messages, and I can actually get some work done & eat a meal in peace,
    And I darn sure don't spend $100 a month to any cell phone company for the 'Privilege' of being annoyed & interrupted when I'm trying to eat, sleep or get something done.

    That $2,400 a year right there I don't spend on 'Crap'... And $2,400 worth of solar panels, storage tanks, solar hot water, ect. for me!
    Something that is useful and will pay me back over time, saving me even more money in the long run!

    Just use the "Gray Matter" between your ears a little, You can figure this stuff out!

  6. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by AR Hammer View Post
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    American medical Association states that at any given time, roughly 15% of the population is legally 'Deluded' to the point of being incompetent...

    Ironically, thats roughly the same percentage of far right wingers that believe PRESIDENT Obama wasn't born in the US.

    That's also the same number of people that believe 'Christ' is going to show up in their lifetimes (12%),
    The same number of people that believe in 'Alien Abduction' (14%),
    The same amount of people involved in the 'Tea Party' (18%),
    The same amount of people that believe in a massive government conspiracy in the death of JFK (15%),
    Same as the 'Taxers', roughly 14% that don't think the federal government has the right to tax the population,
    Roughly 12% of the population believes the world trade centers were 'Imploded' by our own government.

    'Birthers' are roughly 10% of the population...
    They are also mostly old, middle class white guys that don't want to pay their taxes.
    Contrary to what the AMA states (and I'm taking YOUR word on this), all your post does is validate that 10-18% of the population are free thinkers, not easily deceived and are the truly intelligent ones. It's a shame that the number is so low. But, I'll bet that is the very same percentage of the populace who decided to break away from England and create the United States of America.

    One final note: I am NOT old (62 isn't old when you get there), I AM middle class, white ...but I'm FEMALE, and I've ALWAYS PAID MY TAXES.
    Conservative Wife & Mom -- I'm a Conservative Christian-American with dual citizenship...the Kingdom of God is my 1st home and the U.S.A. is my 2nd.

  7. #106
    wolfhunter Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by AR Hammer View Post
    <snipped> American medical Association states that at any given time, roughly 15% of the population is legally 'Deluded' to the point of being incompetent...<snipped>
    AR, this phenomenon is known as a Bell Curve. In any statistical averaging of people, you will find 10-15% at the low end and 10-15% at the top end, with the majority in a relatively compact portion of the field.
    Take Intelligence for example, 10-15% will have high IQ (or whatever measurement used), 10-15% will have low IQ, and the remainder will be considered Average.
    In a Production line, the same percentages will show those who put in extra time/effort, those who slack off, and those who do an average day's work.

    Perhaps the percentages you cited as Tea Partiers and such are the UPPER end of the curve, while those who speak against them are the deluded 10-15%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimpashia71 View Post
    Something to consider, the units that are notified of deployment are notified by the Secretary of the Army, not the president, the Secretary of the Army is a US born citizen and has legal authority to deploy soldiers overseas. Therefore, they arent disobeying the orders of the President of the United States, They disobeying the Secretary of the Army who is nominated by the President and confirmed by the U.S. Senate, the Secretary of the Army is a non-Cabinet position serving under the Secretary of Defense, The Secretary of Defense is appointed by the President with the approval of the Senate, and is a member of the Cabinet. These persons have Senate Approval for thier positions, therefore they are able to order this officer to war, and it is a lawful order as they have the legal authority granted by the constitution of the United States. He is violating his oath and disobeying a direct order of a superior officer.
    The only reason he is doing this is so that he can subpeona the Birth Certificate and all persons eligible or able to verify its authenticity and can legaly challenge the validity of the citizenship of the President and his parents. Its an end run around the other legalities that have not worked out the way they want it to. I didnt vote for the man, however the President is the legally elected representative of the people of the United States and therefor my Commander in Chief. We joined the military to deploy and defend the people and the Constitution of the United States against all enemies both foreign and domestic. Not to sit in some little cubical in the Pentagon planning golfing outings. Deploy, and do your job, otherwise you are making other soldiers have to suck up and ruck up and do your job in your absence. You are letting the team down, and hurting fellow soldiers who have to shoulder the extra burden of your job on top of thier own. Get on the plane.
    Finally some rational thought, including actual facts! What a breath of fresh air - well said.

  9. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by AR Hammer View Post
    Yeah, Right, what ever you say...
    I guess you decided to respond with insults & innuendo, instead of something tangible...

    Here is the crux of what you seem incapable or unwilling to grasp; Barack Obama needs to be held to at least the same standard John McCain was...

    WTP Obama Citizenship Challenge - National Press Club, DC Dec. 8 2008





    What Did The First U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Have To Say On The Subject?

    John Jay letter to George Washington, 25 July 1787

    New-York, 25th July, 1787.

    Dear Sir,

    Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of foreigners into the administration of our national government; and to declare expressly that the command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on any but a natural born citizen.

    I remain, dear sir,

    Your faithful friend and servant,

    John Jay.

    Author:
    John Jay
    Source:
    The Life John Jay With Selections from His Correspondence and Miscellaneous Papers. by His Son, William Jay in Two Volumes. Vol. II., 1833.

    John Jay (December 12, 1745 – May 17,1829) was an American politician, statesman, revolutionary, diplomat, a Founding Father of the United States, President of the Continental Congress from 1778 to 1779 and, from 1789 to 1795, the first Chief Justice of the United States. During and after the American Revolution, he was a minister (ambassador) to Spain and France, helping to fashion American foreign policy and to secure favorable peace terms from the British (the Jay Treaty) and French. He co-wrote the Federalist Papers with Alexander Hamilton and James Madison.

    Either the Constitution matters or it does not...

    Lieutenant Colonel Terry Lakin deserves our respect & gratitude...

    "Important principles may, and must, be inflexible." - Abraham Lincoln


    We can debate forever on the legitimacy of scanned images on the internet; what is irrefutable is none of it nor any of the other currently available public information on the subject is acceptable as evidence in a court of law...

    Including but not limited to the ever changing statements from Dr. Chiyome Fukino clearly in conflict with Hawaii Revised Statutes Section 338-18, et.al.

    In short nothing has been presented to a court of law or congress or any Secretary of State from a verifiable primary source via a certified chain of custody...

    WHY has Barack Obama been treated differently then John McCain?

    Barack Obama needs to be held to the same standard that John McCain was when the questions were raised at the same time about both gentleman's eligibility...

    John McCain did the honorable thing on camera, in front of Congress, provided everything they asked for via a verifiable, certified chain of custody; and stated If you want or need anything else just ask...

    Barack Obama lawyer'd up...

    Does anybody not find it the least bit curious that during the campaign when all the William Ayers & Reverend Wright stuff came up; he had multiple press conferences on the subject, almost immediately; yet on the question of eligibility he has not had a single one...

    IF he is not hiding his eligibility he is hiding SOMETHING criminal & impeachable...
    Moreover, he is pulling all stops to prevent himself from being held to the same standard John McCain was...

    U.S.C. TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47 1001.
    (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, WHOEVER, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
    (1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by ANY trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
    (2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
    (3) makes or USES any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry; shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
    (b) Subsection (a) does not apply to a party to a judicial proceeding, or that party's counsel, for statements, representations, writings or documents submitted by such party or counsel to a judge or magistrate in that proceeding.
    (c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to—
    (1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or
    (2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.

    Barack Obama on the issues...

    Anti-Constitution - Yes
    Anti-First Amendment - Yes
    Anti-Second Amendment - Yes

    Gun Control - Yes
    Socialism - Yes
    Marxism - Yes
    Communism - Yes
    Tax & Spend - Yes

    Obama Failed to tell the American Public that in his first 30 days in office he spent more money than all other administrations did in their entirety, combined... Inflation Adjusted !
    He has repeated that feat by a factor of 4 since then and that does not include the Unconstitutional ObamaCare he is trying to shove down our throats...

    It should be further noted that we are 120 Trillion Dollars with a T in the hole, and not counting the 12 Trillion dollars with a T that he admits to; what does that 108 Trillion dollars with a T and counting consist 100% of?
    Our current Unconstitutional Socialist Entitlement Programs, that he neither has a plan to pay for nor a clue how to pay for...

    • Social Security
    • Medicare
    • Medicaid

    U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

    Where does this all lead?
    Same place it always has in the history of the world when some charismatic leader shoves a Socialist Utopia down the throats of his fellow countrymen...

    Weimar Republic:
    Weimar Republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The First Fundamental Principle of Constitutional Interpretation: Your Rights Don't Come From Government...
    Oath Keepers: CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC 101: YOUR RIGHTS DON’T COME FROM GOVERNMENT

    National Rifle Association - On the Second Amendment, Don’t Believe Obama:
    NRA-ILA ::

    National Rifle Association - Barack Obama IS the most anti-second amendment President in U.S. History...
    Gun Ban Barack Obama

    Second Amendment Foundation - Barack Obama - Gun Ban Agenda...
    SAF Press Release :: HOLDER NOMINATION SIGNALS OBAMA’S TRUE ANTI-GUN RIGHTS AGENDA

    Gun Owners of America - Barack Obama - Punish American Gun Owners, Not Drug Cartels...
    Obama Pushing Treaty To Ban Reloading

    WTFU SHEEPLE


    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    Simple: If he would present his credintials, we would not be having this conversation.

    Question: Name one good reason for not providing the requested documentation.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    This is a fictional story of a young sailor.

    You have been paying attention to Glen, Rush, Sean, and Sarah. You are reading the "patriot" blogs on the internet while in port. You have be sold the idea, the Barry Obama was born in a foreign country, and is illegally installed as POTUS. Therefore, you don't have to follow any orders of your superior officers, because Barry is atop the chain of command.

    Today, you will show them what for:

    It is morning aboard a United States Man of War, Everyone is on edge, they are patrolling the Strait of Malacca a favorite haunt of Somali pirates.

    At 08:00 The boatswain’s mate of the watch announces over the 1MC, ALL HANDS TO QUARTERS FOR MUSTER, INSTRUCTION, AND INSPECTION. All hands then fall in ranks at attention. Divisions are inspected daily by the division officer, department head, or executive officer.

    At quarters, you are discovered missing. You are found by your petty officer. You are laying in your rack reading your bible. You tell the BM3 that Barry is not the president, and you don't have to work or do what you are told.

    The BM3, tells the BM2, the BM2, tells the BM1, and up it goes to your division officer. He gets nowhere with you, because you tell him Barry is a traitor, and a socialist communist. You are not taking anymore orders, because they are all illegal. Up the chain of command this goes.

    By now the XO is involved, and you are brought to the ships medical department for evaluation. You tell the medical people you are not answering questions because Barry is not POUTS. They ask then who is? You have no idea. You state Barry is a communist and is an illegal POTUS. The medical people are writing feverishly.

    Now the Capitan of this warship, sailing in harms way is informed of this nonsense.
    You are locked in either shackles, or in the ships brig. You will be facing at least an Article 15 captains mast or worse when time allows.

    The moral of this story: This birthing business is nothing but BS.

    Thanks to all the men and women of The Armed Forces of The United States for their service. Most will continue to follow orders and carry out their missions.

    Barry is the POTUS, and will be until succeeded according to the constitution.

    And thats the way it is.
    Thank you very much for sharing. Every once in a while, we, the level headed people here at USACARRY appreciate a liberal antagonist making an appearance so that we realize just how retarded and misinformed you people actually are. Please continue to attack us americans and spew your nonsense so that we can observe and remain grounded in our American ways.
    Retired US Army Medic
    Proud Husband, Dad and Christian
    www.nationofshooters.com

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