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    Quote Originally Posted by nosreme View Post
    If he was ever born at all, something modern historical research is suggesting ever more convincingly never happened.
    In all my years on this forum I have never seen the cause for Jesus Christ explained more completely. Nor have we all witnessed His need in this world more dramatically. Congratulations! You have kept Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior front and center as He should be...

    sinful nature is always hostile to God....

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    "A dead thing can go with the stream...but only a living thing can go against it."

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    I received this from friend, and for all of you non-Christians that think we should pay for your abortions.

    Forget it, if you wish to kill your own babies so be it.

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    Chuck,

    This letter was posted in our local paper (Herald Star) prior to the elections. Some Tea Party themes weave through it.

    A world stands perplexed and horrified by events in the Middle East.
    While here at home, the side show of another Election cycle fills the media and our landscape. So many issues trouble our nation and our Valley.
    Candidates are quick to point fingers here and there but never quite finding the breech in the dike.

    One asks how to explain the horror of beheading and slaughter of bound captives, women, children and even babies half a world away. Christians and the households of rival Muslims alike feel the wrath of the Islamic State.
    We try to imagine the horror of one beheading a little baby. We shudder at the very thought of it.

    But we see that no one in the Islamic State is describing these beheadings of innocent children and babies as “reproductive health care” or “personal choice”. They are what you see and hear – the Cry of the Innocent.

    Yet, today in America, millions of these shocking executions take place hidden from view. The facts of these executions are kept quiet and hidden by the media. How many Americans are willing to watch these videos where limbs are torn away, brains sucked out, heads twisted off, skulls crushed and poison poured on their tiny bodies.

    Yes in America, this is the most holy sacrament of our pro-choice politicians who continue to demand that the blood of our innocents continue to flow in mighty torrents to wash this nation clean. But are we clean, what are the fruits of this sacrament of the pro-choice priesthood?

    Our nation is awash with the blood of our babies and a widespread loss of Faith and sense of the sacred. One can argue that the fruits of these executions are the ever increasing rise in divorce, an alarming drop in marriage and a rise in cohabitation, fatherless children, a flood of pornography, the glorification of violence in our media with an increase in violence against and a loss of respect for women, and especially the targeting and destruction of our black families.

    Are we listening to the Cry of these Innocent? What are the true fruits of these shocking executions – the sacrament of the pro-choice priesthood? Are our social and political troubles caused by the moral abyss into which our country has fallen? Are there any politicians or candidates out there that dare address or even talk about these problems?

    Look to the heavens, our King and his commandments have been scorned and rejected by America’s elite. We must pray he doesn’t shake the dust from his sandals and abandon this once Christian nation.



    Keep the Faith!
    Gerry

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    against it." G. K. Chesterton

    "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
    safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
    “Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosreme View Post
    If he was ever born at all, something modern historical research is suggesting ever more convincingly never happened.
    Wrong. There are documents of early Roman origin (and others) that are not biblical which refer to Jesus. Not able to cite right now, but there were Government documents and letters of Pontius Pilate and other government officials in Rome, some Greek historians as well. Even the haters in the Quran mention Jesus, just as a Prophet and not the Son of God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosreme View Post
    There are subtle legalities here nobody with a closed, one-track mind who thinks he understands what the law is based on Fox "News" statements and those in religious publications and websites would ever try to correctly understand, so this will have to suffice: First, an isolated court decision or two does not constitute the "law of the land." Second, atheism is not a religion, cannot be, and never will be, but courts can treat it as if it were one to guarantee equal protection of the laws (and other legal protections) to athiests--much as the way "constructiveness" works to create a legal fiction to prevent an injustice from being done or to keep people subject to criminal laws (e.g., constructive possession of a Class III weapon or narcotics). Third there's a difference between atheism as a religion (impossible and nonsensical) and atheism involving a religious belief--which it does in the broad sense, i.e., it reflects a judgment that religion is bunk because it irrationally involves the belief without evidence in a supernatural being.
    Shot yourself in the foot in the first sentence. You write "There are subtle legalities here nobody with a closed, one-track mind who thinks he understands what the law is based on Fox "News" statements and those in religious publications and websites would ever try to correctly understand, so this will have to suffice..."
    That statement charges someone with a closed "Fox News" mind. Someone you don't know at all. Exactly a closed, one-track mind statement. You generically categorized someone you don't know... a closed mind indeed.
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    First, an isolated court decision or two does not constitute the "law of the land."
    Well... no. You're wrong. It's called case law and it's used to measure an existing legal challenge against those already decided. Here's an example... NYS Safe Act says you can't carry over 7 rounds. Person was caught in the Western part of the state and challenged the law. Fed court decided the 7-round limit violated was a constitutional rights violation. Now even though that occurred in the Western fed court district I can use it anywhere in the state to halt prosecution for 8 rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosreme View Post
    Wrong. The research now is showing ever more surely that those documents were fabricated several hundred years later. It's also showing that none--zero--of the prolific historians at the time who would have known and written about a Jesus who did all the things listed in the Bible--but that didn't happen (except for some centuries-later fabricated additions to their earlier works.
    Now Jesus was covered in a college class on middle-east history at Columbia as a historical figure. The course covered the lineage from before his birth to present times. Clear as a bell. You're right and Columbia is wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40scinNC View Post
    The SCOTUS ruled that forcing an a religious test is a violation of a persons religious freedom, including freedom from religion.

    I don't care if you paint your wanker purple and dance naked around a may pole in your back yard as part of your superstitious rituals created by long dead goat herders, just don't expect me to see it, participate in it, or have it taught to my children in school. The only thing that atheists desire to force on anyone is that theists keep their ancient superstitions, with it's associated bigotry, bias, and hatred our of my life, and the laws we all live under. Keep it private, that's what your bible teaches, follow your own rule book.

    Religion is like a wanker. It's fine to have one and it's fine to be proud of it, but don't whip it out in public and start waving it around, do not force it on anyone ... and DO NOT try to shove it down my child's throat.... and keep it the **** out of criminal and civil laws.

    And if atheism is a religion, the not collecting stamps is a hobby.
    Fine, but don't ask me to pay for your abortion. Don't shove it don my throat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GryHounnd View Post
    Bc,

    You would be right if that were the case in our original supposition. However, in the original supposition you were singling ME out by REQUIRING me to work without compensation BECAUSE of my lack of a religion on federally recognized holiday. I'm suing you for discrimination. In no case did I make a stink about YOUR religion.

    I sure as hell am glad I don't work for you. You sound like a petty, sh!tty, and vindictive employer if you fired someone based soley on their political views.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using USA Carry mobile app
    Now why did you add "without compensation" to my statement?
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    Justify your act. Why did you try to change the meaning of what I wrote? Because you needed to do ANYTHING to win a point. You're done... and only 107 posts. You can't be trusted any longer. I can't read your response because you might have changed the question to benefit your answer. No longer any credibility for the progressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosreme View Post
    There's not much that's more comical than non-lawyers explaining law when they know just enough to be dangerous--and amusing. You are wrong. Period.
    Wrong? You didn't claim I get my info from Fox news and that I'm closed minded? You absolutely did that without knowing me... making you exactly the hypocrite you're accusing others of being.
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    The fed case law has already caused the NYS Police to issue a publication telling state troopers they may not count rounds or arrest based solely on number of rounds. "The law of the land" is a joke. It's a cliché. There is no more law of the land. Your President is the biggest violator of the "law of the land" and no one cares. Everyone around me, every day, lies and violates the law of the land. And who are the biggest violators? LAWYERS! Precisely why I refuse jury duty. I'm not listening to some criminal with a law license. And more annoying than non-lawyers talking about legal issues are lawyers trying to use their litigation experience to convince someone they can pick-up a turd by the clean end. A lawyer talking religion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosreme View Post
    Historians, like scientists constantly change their positions based on new evidence. Columbia's take, and that of most other colleges and universities, was the prevailing view when you went there. You must not have been a very good student, or you would realize that scholars constantly revise conventional wisdom. BTW, "Columbia" didn't have a position on this (or any other academic-content matter); individual instructors and professors did, as did their textbooks. Name-dropping of college names and invoking credentials is an amateurish and illogical way to approach an issue.
    Give this a read, if possible with an open mind.
    Did Jesus Christ Really Exist? Proving Jesus Without the Bible | Beginning And End
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    Quote Originally Posted by Debray View Post

    I received this from friend, and for all of you non-Christians that think we should pay for your abortions.
    No, taxpayers should not be paying for it, or the premium cuts of meat I see them buying with their EBT card in the grocery store.

    But it is none of my damn business, or yours, if they choose to have an abortion, or pay for that premium cut of meat with their money.
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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