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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40scinNC View Post
    It has directly effected and deeply hurt people I call friends. Unlike christians, you might be surprised to learn that atheists are emphatic towards others.

    I can't even go hunting with a gun on Sunday.

    I can't buy a beer on Sunday morning. Many states still have a total ban on alcohol sales on Sunday.

    It used to be even sillier, but common sense and the courts have pushed back the ignorance of knuckle dragging bible thumpers. I remember when you could only buy stuff on Sunday that was needed to eat. Meaning you could buy food, and even paper towels because they can be used to prepare food. However toilet paper sales were banned on Sunday, because it isn't necessary to eat. That is a special kind of stupid, reserved primarily for those who seek knowledge from fairy tales, and believe they have the right to force it down everyone throat.
    Blue laws don't favor any one religion over another, which is the only guarantee the first amendment provides. Why hasn't anyone changed the law? Seems antiquated.
    GOD, GUNS and GUITARS

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  3. What is so interesting is that religion is the first codification of survival laws and social laws.

    Religion is how people regulate their society, something that must be done once you have more than 5 people as a society. Everything from diets to what to avoid to prevent anarchy. It all comes together to promote the survival of the group.

    Is it any wonder that so many religions have similar rules?

    Anthropology 101.

    Whether God exists or does not exist is a moot argument. His existence or non-existence will neither be proved or disproved by what we say. And it makes no difference to the world or us if he exists or does not exist as life will go on with or without Him. If you will come back after death and inform us, that would be nice, but none of us will be able to verify the existence of God until we die.


    The real problem with religion is not in belief, but in the need for people to have their belief validated by others. Thus we kill a commie for Christ. Religious persecution, religious wars, justification to do what the religion says do not do is all based upon this need for group validation.

    So, if you believe, go and believe. If you do not, go and do not believe.

    Just leave each other alone in their beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    Blue laws don't favor any one religion over another, which is the only guarantee the first amendment provides. Why hasn't anyone changed the law? Seems antiquated.
    For an educated man you sure make a lot of crap up in an attempt to support your position.

    Of course blue laws derived from christian religion: Started by Reverend Samuel Peters (1735-1826) in his book, General History of Connecticut first published in 1781, to refer to various laws first enacted by Puritan colonies in the seventeenth century prohibiting the selling of certain types of merchandise or business activity of any kind on certain days of the week, usually Sunday.

    A blue law, in the United States and Canada, is a type of law designed to enforce moral standards, particularly the observance of the Sabbath. Most have been repealed or are simply unenforced, although prohibitions of the sale on Sundays of alcoholic beverages, automobiles, and occasionally almost all commerce, are still enforced in some areas. Blue laws often prohibit an activity only during certain hours and there are usually exceptions to the prohibition of commerce, like stores selling essential items such as food and medicines. Places that still have and enforce blue laws generally have strong religious fundamentalism, but some have been retained as a matter of tradition or out of convenience.

    Yes, it is as antiquated, as antiquated as the belief in gods, deities, demons, and the rest of the nonsense of ancient fairy tales.

    Why does a man with a buy bull in his hand get to tell a business man that sells cars he can not earn his livelihood on a specific day of the week? (car sales are still banned in a number of states on "the sabbath")
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Yes, America is a christian nation in the sense that there are over 300 varieties of christianity spewing their nonsense in America. From the Westboro Baptist Church variety to the Roman Catholic church variety. When the SHTF they all start pointing fingers at each other claiming "YOU are not a true christian...."

    And given that the Roman Catholic church is the largest single christian denomination in the US, it is equally true that America is a Roman Catholic Church nation. Divorce should be outlawed and attendance at mass once a week and on holy days should be enacted into law.

    One of the most interesting chrisitan sects is the Amosites, who belive in Jesus Christ as the son of God and the Messiah, but also believe that the new testament is the book of satan. Like Thomas Jefferson, they believe that only the sayings of Jesus are relevant and that the rest of the New Testament was written under the guidance of Satan to deceive. Amos811

    So when you use the term "christian" please more specific to let us know if you include or exclude the Westboro Baptist, Amosites, Catholics, or any other self-proclaimed christians, including your particular variety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    Yes, America is a christian nation in the sense that there are over 300 varieties of christianity spewing their nonsense in America. From the Westboro Baptist Church variety to the Roman Catholic church variety. When the SHTF they all start pointing fingers at each other claiming "YOU are not a true christian...."

    And given that the Roman Catholic church is the largest single christian denomination in the US, it is equally true that America is a Roman Catholic Church nation. Divorce should be outlawed and attendance at mass once a week and on holy days should be enacted into law.

    One of the most interesting chrisitan sects is the Amosites, who belive in Jesus Christ as the son of God and the Messiah, but also believe that the new testament is the book of satan. Like Thomas Jefferson, they believe that only the sayings of Jesus are relevant and that the rest of the New Testament was written under the guidance of Satan to deceive. Amos811

    So when you use the term "christian" please more specific to let us know if you include or exclude the Westboro Baptist, Amosites, Catholics, or any other self-proclaimed christians, including your particular variety.
    Why would you even care? Goofy!

    sinful nature is always hostile to God....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmhood View Post
    Why would you even care? Goofy!
    Because as an atheist his only hope is that there is no God, his greatest fear is that there is.


    MARANATHA!
    ~ God Hates Religion ~
    But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    Because as an atheist his only hope is that there is no God, his greatest fear is that there is.
    You don't have a effing clue, the only thing an atheist fears is the ignorance of religious (any religion) nutjobs.
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    Because as an atheist his only hope is that there is no God, his greatest fear is that there is.


    MARANATHA!
    It is hard to believe that in the halfway through the second decade of the 21st century there are still people propounding Pascal's Wager. But I suppose there are still some people who think diseases are caused by evil spirits.

    But let's take a walk down your fantasy land and see where it leads us. If there is a supernatural being that created everything that exists (except itself, of course) then it is way more likely to show mercy on people who didn't make up fantastic stories about it and try to use it to manipulate other people. Thus, even if such a supernatural being exists, it is the atheists who will bask in eternal happiness with it, and the christians and muslims and jews and hindus who will suffer its eternal damnation.

  10. #1399
    Quote Originally Posted by Farmhood View Post
    Why would you even care? Goofy!

    sinful nature is always hostile to God....
    For the same reason I'm interested in another person's favorite novel. I find other people's taste in fiction interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    Yes, America is a christian nation in the sense that there are over 300 varieties of christianity spewing their nonsense in America. From the Westboro Baptist Church variety to the Roman Catholic church variety. When the SHTF they all start pointing fingers at each other claiming "YOU are not a true christian...."

    And given that the Roman Catholic church is the largest single christian denomination in the US, it is equally true that America is a Roman Catholic Church nation. Divorce should be outlawed and attendance at mass once a week and on holy days should be enacted into law.

    One of the most interesting chrisitan sects is the Amosites, who belive in Jesus Christ as the son of God and the Messiah, but also believe that the new testament is the book of satan. Like Thomas Jefferson, they believe that only the sayings of Jesus are relevant and that the rest of the New Testament was written under the guidance of Satan to deceive. Amos811

    So when you use the term "christian" please more specific to let us know if you include or exclude the Westboro Baptist, Amosites, Catholics, or any other self-proclaimed christians, including your particular variety.
    But keep in mind that many christians, particularly the knuckle dragging fundie sects don't even consider Catholics to be christian. Hatred amongst and between so called christians sects or cults is as viement as any you can find toward muslims or atheists.

    As a firefighter I attended the funeral of a fallen firefighter. The preacher was pentecostal and spent 20+ minutes telling the baptists in attendance they were all going to hell, and never mentioned the man in the flag draped coffin in front of him. No where will you find hate a pure and blinding as that found in religion.
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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