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    If the U. S. is a Christian Nation, then why did the nation rise up in the 1860's and smack down the Christian Amendment to the U. S. Constitution?



    NATIONAL REFORM ASSOCIATION

    MEMORIAL TO CONGRESS

    ALLEGHENY, PENNSYLVANIA, JANUARY 27, 1864

    To the Honorable, the Senate and House of Representatives in Congress assembled:

    We, citizens of the United States, respectfully ask your honorable bodies to adopt measures for amending the Constitution of the United States, so as to read, in substance, as follows:

    We, the people of the United States, humbly acknowledging Almighty God as the source of all authority and power in civil government, the Lord Jesus Christ as the Ruler among the nations, his revealed will as the supreme law of the land, in order to constitute a Christian government, and in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the inalienable rights and the blessings of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to ourselves, our posterity, and all the people, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


    Source: American State Papers Bearing on Sunday Legislation.[1st Edition] Compiled and Annotated by William Addison Blakely, Of the Chicago Bar. (1890). Revised and Enlarged Edition, [ 2nd Edition] Edited by Willard Colcord, and published by The Religious Liberty Association, Washington, D.C. (1911) pp 341-343.

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  3. Do we have a winner yet? is it the christians? or is it the atheists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kn1080 View Post
    Do we have a winner yet? is it the christians? or is it the atheists?
    True Christians and most atheists subscribe to the Liberal Protestant Christian principle that the civil magistrate hath no power over purely spiritual matters.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Charles Cooper View Post
    If the U. S. is a Christian Nation, then why did the nation rise up in the 1860's and smack down the Christian Amendment to the U. S. Constitution?



    NATIONAL REFORM ASSOCIATION

    MEMORIAL TO CONGRESS

    ALLEGHENY, PENNSYLVANIA, JANUARY 27, 1864

    To the Honorable, the Senate and House of Representatives in Congress assembled:

    We, citizens of the United States, respectfully ask your honorable bodies to adopt measures for amending the Constitution of the United States, so as to read, in substance, as follows:

    We, the people of the United States, humbly acknowledging Almighty God as the source of all authority and power in civil government, the Lord Jesus Christ as the Ruler among the nations, his revealed will as the supreme law of the land, in order to constitute a Christian government, and in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the inalienable rights and the blessings of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to ourselves, our posterity, and all the people, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


    Source: American State Papers Bearing on Sunday Legislation.[1st Edition] Compiled and Annotated by William Addison Blakely, Of the Chicago Bar. (1890). Revised and Enlarged Edition, [ 2nd Edition] Edited by Willard Colcord, and published by The Religious Liberty Association, Washington, D.C. (1911) pp 341-343.
    You use a request for a theocracy to say America was not a Christian nation? Simply because the theocracy was RIGHTFULLY turned down does in no manner diminish the Christian nature of America. If you wish to argue that America is NO LONGER a Christian nation, no problem with me starting at a date of 1962. Prior to that time, you would be hard pressed to prove that America was NOT a Christian nation. Very hard indeed.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by kn1080 View Post
    Do we have a winner yet? is it the christians? or is it the atheists?
    As far as convincing the unconvinced, there is no agreement nor will there be. As far as who the winners are, that is easy, Jesus has already overcome the world and we are told to be of good cheer because He already gave us the victory.

    Cheers,

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Onlinedad View Post
    It appears as though the only two sides here is christian, and antichristian. I am wondering if there are any other people looking through this thread of a different religion. That way we can get another different perspective.

    Maybe another religion that has a holy book that they follow, that also is believed to be the complete truth by them.

    Because this is what I understand of different religions, (please feel free to correct me)

    Jews believe in Jewism because their book says to, and there book is right, and has been culturally passed down to them. They pray and recieve answers from their god. And, they have not found any evidence to contridict it.

    Budists believe in Budism because they have many different scrolls that are right, and have been culturally passed down to them. They meditate and recieve enlightenment from their god(s). And, they have not been presented with evidence to contridict it.

    Hindus believe in hinduism because of a long line of tradition of passing it down. They also have teachings and writing to support their beliefs, and those are right. They also meditate and recieve enlightenment. Also they have not been presented with evidence to contridict it.

    Muslims believe in Islam, which also is one god, one prophet religion. With there own book that is right. They spend alot of time at prayer. And, I'm sure that they recieve answers/replies from their god. Also, they have not been presented with evidence to contridict it.

    Paganism, this one is a little more complicated, because the word Pagen has been misused to pretty much label any other religion out there. However, most pagen beliefs are based on pre-christian beliefs. Its a bit hard for pagens to find authintic/original books, or documentation (thanks to the christians and they're great idea to destroy any and all information, or people that might contridict their religion, good job with that one, I'm sure thats what god would have wanted).

    Whats also amazing is that you can find these religions here, in America, and all over the world as well. Along with many many more.
    Dear Onlinedad, I am a little disappointed that you asked for specific evidence that the Bible is true, which I offered areas of discussion, yet you have not ventured into that discussion. Now you appear to have sidestepped and want to look at the other religions. If you wish to know the evidence for the truth of the Bible which by the way includes the Jews since salvation is of the Jews, simply let me know. Otherwise, you are simply avoiding the discussion.

    Cheers,

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    Most of the American legal system is based on Sir William Blackstone's" Commentaries on the Laws of England". Most of this was based on Judeo-Christian values such as the Ten Commandments and the Beattitudes. It is because of this that America (the United States, for those who want to quibble over terms) is considered a Christian nation. Countries that base their legal structure on the writings of Muhammad are considered Muslim nations, while Israel is considered a Hebrew nation.

    It has nothing to do with how many Christians, Jews, Buddhists, or Muslims live in the country.

  9. Surely with all this inteligent argument posed by Cocked..., et al, at least the majority of us have to be convinced that Jesus, in fact did not, die on the cross for our sins.

    I was just wondering if we have figured out for sure whether or not my lord and saviour is real.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by kn1080 View Post
    Surely with all this inteligent argument posed by Cocked..., et al, at least the majority of us have to be convinced that Jesus, in fact did not, die on the cross for our sins.

    I was just wondering if we have figured out for sure whether or not my lord and saviour is real.
    The evidence is publicly available for all to make that private decision.

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    Jesus is real but is half cocked and lock?
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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