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    We Need Help in Steubenville (Freedom Of Religion under Attack)

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    In 1963 when the list of Communist Goals were presented to Congress who would have thought any of the 45 items on the list would ever be possible in this United States of America.

    Take a look at the list today and ask yourself do you still feel that way?

    Item 28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." This agenda didn’t stop at schools it has extended into our Cities and Public Institutions.

    Today as never before the last boundary protecting us from a total Communist, Marxist, Socialist takeover is our Religion. Just as it was in the 1700s our battle is being fought in the Pulpits across America.

    How does it happen?

    Take a look at Steubenville, Ohio where we were proud to announce the new City Logo just a few months ago.

    Now!

    Law Director S. Gary Repella announced following a 15-minute closed-door meeting with City Council members.

    "We were contacted in May by the Freedom from Religion Foundation Inc. in Madison, Wis., who said one of our citizens had complained about the city logo“.

    We will redesign the city logo to remove the cross and silhouette of the Christ the King Chapel on the Franciscan University of Steubenville campus.

    We are asking for Help.

    1st. Please go to our local Newspaper Poll and vote to keep the Logo.

    Steubenville, Wintersville, Toronto, Mingo, Weirton, Jefferson County | News, Sports, Jobs, HeraldStarOnline.com

    2nd. Go to Squidoo.com and help a local Minister with comments to be presented to the Steubenville City Officials

    Save the Steubenville Logo





    Appendix, pp. A34-A35
    January 10, 1963
    Current Communist Goals
    EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
    Thursday, January 10, 1963
    ]
    CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
    4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
    5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
    6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
    7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
    8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
    9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
    10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
    11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
    12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
    14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
    22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
    23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
    32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
    34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
    38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
    39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
    41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
    43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
    44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
    45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
    “Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debray View Post
    An advance party soon went ashore and looked for food and shelter, while most of the people stayed aboard the Mayflower. A group of Pilgrims, led by William Bradford, signed the Mayflower Compact, which said that they agreed to govern themselves and not take orders from other people.
    More scouting of the new land followed, and the entire group finally went ashore and began to build a settlement. It was December 23, and the place was Plymouth.
    The first winter was very hard. More than 40 people died. The rest of the Pilgrims made it through the winter. In the spring, they began to plant food and continued to explore their new home.
    On March 16, Samoset and another Native American entered the Plymouth settlement and said, in English, “Welcome, Englishmen.” The Pilgrims were amazed. Samoset explained that he had learned their language from English fishermen who had fished there in the winter. The two peoples exchanged greetings and ideas. They parted as friends.
    A few days later, Samoset returned with Squanto, another Native American leader. The Pilgrims welcomed him, too. Soon, Massasoit, the leader of the large tribe the Wampanoag, visited Plymouth. The two peoples signed a peace treaty that would last 50 years.

    The Native Americans had taught the Pilgrims how to plant wheat, barley, Indian corn, and peas. Soon, the settlement was growing lots of food. Later that year, in the fall, the Pilgrims celebrated the harvest. They invited their Native American friends to join them. This has become known as the first Thanksgiving.
    The Plymouth colony thrived. More people were born, and more people arrived from Europe. Soon, other colonies sprung up. It wouldn’t be long before English colonies filled the entire Eastern coast of North America.
    The Pilgrims, in seeking freedom from religious punishment and economic hardship, had found in the New World new friends and a new way of life.

    As I said the first English language Bible to be printed in America by Robert Aitken in 1782 was a King James Version.

    Robert Aitkens’s 1782 Bible was also the only Bible ever authorized by the United States Congress.

    The very first Bible printed in America was done in the native Algonquin Indian Language by John Eliot in 1663.

    And still many argue that America isn’t a Christian Nation, and would rather Worship the King and the way of life the Pilgrams escaped.


    We have a Thanksgiving family tradition rooted in this very story using corn and passing a basket dropping each kernel in as we express our thankfulness to Almighty God. The grandchildren are starting to take it over and there is never a dry eye in the house.

    Also

    After being intimately involved in my two girls’ grade school education, some years back, I found the life of George Washington fascinating. All the historical accounts of the hand of God on this man’s life… just amazing. Thanks Debray the cut and paste documents from your posts to my desktop are getting out of hand.
    Last edited by Farmhood; 07-28-2012 at 07:52 AM. Reason: Mayflower Compact

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debray View Post
    1st. Please go to our local Newspaper Poll and vote to keep the Logo.
    60%-40% for. And for something that your city council wants to do.....you guys are screwed!
    Quote Originally Posted by Debray View Post

    CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS.
    Thank you.....I'm getting a little tired of being the only person posting a link to this lol.
    "I don't think that a society that encourages over a million abortions a year....a society that kills out of convenience, i.e., Jack Kevorkian, can not have consequences." --Rush Limbaugh

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    if america is a christian nation as the topic title claims, look around! rampant crime- corrupt government and corporations ruling -unhealthy medical practice -education system that destroys knowledge -religions cults that destroy spirituality pollution in the air rivers and streams -gluttony- greed- materialism- fear-hate crimes and so on and so forth.........and you still want to claim this is a 'christian nation' ???????? it was far more christ like before the christian invasion imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Debray View Post
    Duke of Advil as you said, “Many who came to the Americans came with a pure motive, to escape religious persecution and share the love of Christ”......MASSIVE SNIPPAGE!.......The Pilgrims, in seeking freedom from religious punishment and economic hardship, had found in the New World new friends and a new way of life.
    And still many argue that America isn’t a Christian Nation, and would rather Worship the King and the way of life the Pilgrams escaped.
    And if you study the diary of William Bradford, you will see that they thanked God for more than a bountiful harvest. When the Pilgrims left for America, the pact they signed included that they would live as a collective. As in every other case in history, communism doesn't work. God freed them from that collective, as God freed the victims of Nimrod in Genesis 11. (The Indians weren't invited either, they heard the shooting and came to investigate, but it is a beautiful story that that fact kind of takes away from the beauty of it.)
    "I don't think that a society that encourages over a million abortions a year....a society that kills out of convenience, i.e., Jack Kevorkian, can not have consequences." --Rush Limbaugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debray View Post

    Item 28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." This agenda didn’t stop at schools it has extended into our Cities and Public Institutions.

    Today as never before the last boundary protecting us from a total Communist, Marxist, Socialist takeover is our Religion.
    Another "Sign Of The End Of The Age" Debray. It's all part of God's PERFECT PLAN & PERFECT TIMIMG! Christians don't have to be concerned about such a takeover because it's all part of the NWO/OWG of the anti-christ which is imminent following the Rapture. There will be no future generation (Mark 1:30). There will only be the last 7 years of this final generation and the hell on earth for those who are Left Behind. God will soon remove the Bride of Christ from this world (End of the Age of Grace) so that He can devote His full attention once again on redeeming Israel (70th Week of Daniel). Read my signature and remember what the Lord commanded, "Be aware of the season", Fear not", and above all else "DON'T BE DECEIVED'!
    In America today, it's considered worse to judge evil than to do evil. Never let these Christophobic Liberal Progressive Purveyors of Infanticide & Homosexual Perversion who always manipulate truth to be hate speech set the terms in a debate.

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    a christian can pray anywhere they want to pray be it in school or on a city bus and no one would even know so long they weren't making a show out of doing so.......even the bible tells christians not to publicly pray........
    and if you feel you must why utter it out loud in public spaces? if your god knows your wishes anyways why make a scene?
    go back to your closets and pray like the bible instructs or keep it to yourself or in your own churches but don't flaunt it in public for attention seeking purposes from bystanders
    ;)
    gun control is being able to hit your target

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagleeyes View Post
    if america is a christian nation as the topic title claims, look around! rampant crime- corrupt government and corporations ruling -unhealthy medical practice -education system that destroys knowledge -religions cults that destroy spirituality pollution in the air rivers and streams -gluttony- greed- materialism- fear-hate crimes and so on and so forth.........and you still want to claim this is a 'christian nation' ???????? it was far more christ like before the christian invasion imo
    Yes, I do

    I doubt if God has much to do with many of the things you stated above. Most of the problems begin with us as Christians letting a corrupt Government develope an education system that destroys knowledge and forces God out. A corrupt develops a Entitlement Society that no longer depends on Self Worth and God but Government.

    Yes we were a Christian Nation being led by God 's word we have let Politicians change that now is the time to put Our representivies back in Government.

    Why do you think the Tea Party has such restraint?

    Maybe it is their Leader.
    “Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagleeyes View Post
    a christian can pray anywhere they want to pray be it in school or on a city bus and no one would even know so long they weren't making a show out of doing so.......even the bible tells christians not to publicly pray........
    and if you feel you must why utter it out loud in public spaces? if your god knows your wishes anyways why make a scene?
    go back to your closets and pray like the bible instructs or keep it to yourself or in your own churches but don't flaunt it in public for attention seeking purposes from bystanders
    ;)
    When I went to grade school we prayed the Lord's Prayer every morning.
    Said pledge of allegiance and were able to bring a shot gun to school and hunt rabbits on the way home.
    That was before the Progressive/Marxist agenda began to destroy the minds on the young.
    “Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

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