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  1. #681
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    I'm referencing the END Of The Age Of Grace. The Age Of Grace ENDS with the Rapture of the Church. The Rapture will usher in Matthew 24:21.."For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be." Life as we have known it will cease with the Rapture of the Church, and yes, the majority ( 2/3's) of the worlds population will die as a result of the Tribulation. No mistake about it.
    So you are promoting the idea of end times. Just trying to clear this up. Because you perceive what it says in the Bible as being so. I'm saying the Bibles meaning from the perception of those reading it has not changed through the generations. And neither has the world. Only how it has been portrayed to the masses via media outlets (the world). Back in the day, you would never see gay men kissing on TV, now it is the norm. But gay men existed. J Edgar Hoover. You rarely ever heard of divorce back in the day but it happened a lot. Maybe not to the extent as it does today but it was there. You never saw such pushes towards consumerism as we do now but it was there. Everything that is happening now has never not been happening. Sure, it's seen more now but that is due to all the different ways to show it. Everyone has a camera on them, so on and so forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glockout View Post
    So you are promoting the idea of end times. Just trying to clear this up. Because you perceive what it says in the Bible as being so. I'm saying the Bibles meaning from the perception of those reading it has not changed through the generations. And neither has the world. Only how it has been portrayed to the masses via media outlets (the world). Back in the day, you would never see gay men kissing on TV, now it is the norm. But gay men existed. J Edgar Hoover. You rarely ever heard of divorce back in the day but it happened a lot. Maybe not to the extent as it does today but it was there. You never saw such pushes towards consumerism as we do now but it was there. Everything that is happening now has never not been happening. Sure, it's seen more now but that is due to all the different ways to show it. Everyone has a camera on them, so on and so forth.
    Glockout, I have no intention to be sarcastic or insulting.That said, I'm not a "promoter", just a Watchman. I've been down this rabbit trail before so the game ends here. It's more than obvious that you haven't reviewed my posts that I suggested to you if your really so interested or just plain childlike naive. Israel is God's prophetic Timepiece. That's where I leave you, good luck with your search.
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    But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    Glockout, I have no intention to be sarcastic or insulting.That said, I'm not a "promoter", just a Watchman. I've been down this rabbit trail before so the game ends here. It's more than obvious that you haven't reviewed my posts that I suggested to you if your really so interested or just plain childlike naive. Israel is God's prophetic Timepiece. That's where I leave you, good luck with your search.
    No sarcasm intended here either, but I don't recall you being specific as to what posts you are referring to. You just said my "earlier posts". You have 2,000 plus "earlier posts". If you could help me out a bit into finding where I should be looking it would be appreciated. As I said, I'm just trying to critically think here and I have recently been saved. And I would like to see it from your perspective.

  5. #684
    Quote Originally Posted by Riverkilt View Post
    Somewhere in these 68 pages someone must have pointed out that the Mayflower pilgrims set up a commune-ist form of government in order to survive....
    That is absolutely what the Mayflower pilgrims did. It did not work because there were parasites who would not work and others who did not want to do all the work. They were staving. It was only when they engaged in Capitalism they they thrived. The pilgrims were able to feed themselves and sell their grain and goods for a profit. Today "profit" is a dirty word. The pilgrims were also able the worship how they pleased. (That is looked at with disdain today also.) The combination of both made a happier and more prosperous nation. Our founding fathers were for the most part Christians and the documents prove this. The founders asked God to bless this country and God did. But today I fear that this nation has strayed and God has withdrawn His blessing. There are to many who think that believing in God and His Son Jesus is old fashion. I have heard many say that this is the 21st century. Like that makes a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glockout View Post
    No sarcasm intended here either, but I don't recall you being specific as to what posts you are referring to. You just said my "earlier posts". You have 2,000 plus "earlier posts". If you could help me out a bit into finding where I should be looking it would be appreciated. As I said, I'm just trying to critically think here and I have recently been saved. And I would like to see it from your perspective.
    Ringo is wise to be wary of your sincerity. If he is viewing your posts anything like I am, it appears you are being purposely insincere about much of what you post here. For instance, which of your following quotes is a lie, because they cannot exist together as both being truthful:

    Or....

    After seeing your posts today, I'm starting to think everything you discuss is nothing more than a joke to you. When faced with substantive discourse for which you appear to feign having no knowledge of, or substantive answer(s) for, you go all cryptic, implying that you're being intentionally dishonest in your participation here, or maybe withholding some truth about yourself for reasons only you would know:

    Sometimes you gotta know when to show them, sometimes you have to know when to hold them. An online forum is no place to show them.
    I sincerely hope my suspicions are wrong about you, and that you have found the Truth within the Word of our Lord, Jesus Christ. On the chance that you are truly seeking the wisdom and Watchman's witness that Ringo has and shares with us regularly, one of my favorite explanations from him on the subject you're asking him to expound upon can be read here. It's all there. You should have no questions about what Ringo believes about our country's future, or the world's future after reading it. You will have Biblical citations documenting exactly how he came to the conclusions he came to. It's as obvious as why every euphemistic reference to God, Jesus, and the Bible is likewise capitalized, such as the Word, or Him/His/He. The word you're looking for in trying to understand exactly how Ringo came to the conclusions he holds, is that it is the Truth, which is meant to imply that you will have to follow, read, and fully understand the few Biblical citations he gives you in that post as having derived from God Himself, and also fully understand how they reveal that we are, indeed, already in the End of Days. It's all there. It's my freely-given gift to you, which was a freely-given gift to me from Ringo, which was a freely-given gift to him from God. I pray that you accept it as such, and accept it as the Truth, and then prepare accordingly.

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    No one has ever heard me say that I "hate" cops, because I don't. This is why I will never trust one again though: You just never know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesStringer View Post
    Ringo is wise to be wary of your sincerity. If he is viewing your posts anything like I am, it appears you are being purposely insincere about much of what you post here. For instance, which of your following quotes is a lie, because they cannot exist together as both being truthful:



    Or....



    After seeing your posts today, I'm starting to think everything you discuss is nothing more than a joke to you. When faced with substantive discourse for which you appear to feign having no knowledge of, or substantive answer(s) for, you go all cryptic, implying that you're being intentionally dishonest in your participation here, or maybe withholding some truth about yourself for reasons only you would know:



    I sincerely hope my suspicions are wrong about you, and that you have found the Truth within the Word of our Lord, Jesus Christ. On the chance that you are truly seeking the wisdom and Watchman's witness that Ringo has and shares with us regularly, one of my favorite explanations from him on the subject you're asking him to expound upon can be read here. It's all there. You should have no questions about what Ringo believes about our country's future, or the world's future after reading it. You will have Biblical citations documenting exactly how he came to the conclusions he came to. It's as obvious as why every euphemistic reference to God, Jesus, and the Bible is likewise capitalized, such as the Word, or Him/His/He. The word you're looking for in trying to understand exactly how Ringo came to the conclusions he holds, is that it is the Truth, which is meant to imply that you will have to follow, read, and fully understand the few Biblical citations he gives you in that post as having derived from God Himself, and also fully understand how they reveal that we are, indeed, already in the End of Days. It's all there. It's my freely-given gift to you, which was a freely-given gift to me from Ringo, which was a freely-given gift to him from God. I pray that you accept it as such, and accept it as the Truth, and then prepare accordingly.

    Blues
    Do you believe it is completely wise to be open and honest on a forum that is easily tracked and looked at by prying eyes? I sure don't. Showing knowledge on certain subjects is best left for in person conversation. Call me paranoid or distrustful but I don't know anyone here or intend on meeting anyone here. So my motives are just to see and participate what I can on certain subjects. I love my government. I didn't mean I put all of my faith in government. I put all of my faith in Jesus. But my government is a close second. I love George Bush, I watch Fox News and believe everything that they say. I will also add this. We have some major stuff around the bend that the majority are not prepared for. And I don't need the Bible to tell me that. I don't have cable tv hooked into my house but when I see it, usually it's months to years between watching, so I notice the difference. They are getting more blatant and evil about their subliminal advertising and what I see around me on a daily basis in society is pretty scary as well. The hatred in the eyes of people on the street. The anger in the tone of people's voices. There is so much negative energy around us and it is all manipulated into being. Things are coming to a head and its not going to be nice. So yes, am I preparing? You bet.

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    My Brother it’s wise to be truthful no matter the forum...neither seen nor unseen.

    Revelations 22: 14 & 15
    14 Blessed are those who do His commandments,that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

    Only a fool thinks his sin is hidden... and a child flaunts his indulgence.

    15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.

  9. #688
    Obviously, the communism of the Mayflower pilgrims didn't work out. But I don't think its fair to say America was founded as a Christian Nation when it was founded as a communist enterprise by folks seeking freedom FROM religion. And then there are the millions of Native American NON-Christians who were already here who, also by necessity, practiced forms of what we'd call communism or socialism to survive.

    Imagine being a Native American and these funny looking people show up on the beach waving a book and claiming its the answer and that in the book there's this lady who got pregnant from God and she was married but still a virgin and she had this baby who was the son of the Creator who died but came back to life later....right...sure thing....

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    We the people of the State of Arizona, grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverkilt View Post
    Obviously, the communism of the Mayflower pilgrims didn't work out. But I don't think its fair to say America was founded as a Christian Nation when it was founded as a communist enterprise by folks seeking freedom FROM religion. And then there are the millions of Native American NON-Christians who were already here who, also by necessity, practiced forms of what we'd call communism or socialism to survive.

    Imagine being a Native American and these funny looking people show up on the beach waving a book and claiming its the answer and that in the book there's this lady who got pregnant from God and she was married but still a virgin and she had this baby who was the son of the Creator who died but came back to life later....right...sure thing....
    The only thing that didn't work out was their original belief that Socialism would work, the first Winter just about wiped them out.
    Then they discovered Individualism and Capitalism, those that worked the hardest did well and prospered.

    Long before Socialism (Moochers voting for Thieves to steal from the Producers).

    Sorry where did you get you information? Evidently your a result of our current Dumbed Down Public school system.

    The Pilgrams came to America for Freedom Of religion "Not" From Religion.

    Your right about one thing there was a lady who got pregnant from God, she was a virgin, she did have a baby his name was Jesus and he did die for your sins.
    “Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

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