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    What happened to Alabama Judge Roy Moore

    Some of you may be wondering what Judge Roy Moore has been doing since he was removed from the bench for refusing to remove the Ten Commandments from his courtroom wall.

    The following is a poem written by Judge Roy Moore from Alabama . Judge Moore was sued by the ACLU for displaying the Ten Commandments in his courtroom foyer. He has been stripped of his judgeship and now they are trying to strip his right to practice law in Alabama ! The judge's poem sums it up quite well.



    America? the beautiful,

    or so you used to be.

    Land of the Pilgrims' pride;

    I'm glad they'll never see.



    Babies piled in dumpsters,

    Abortion on demand,

    Oh, sweet land of liberty;

    your house is on the sand.



    Our children wander aimlessly

    poisoned by cocaine

    choosing to indulge their lusts,

    when God has said abstain



    From sea to shining sea,

    our Nation turns away

    From the teaching of God's love

    and a need to always pray



    We've kept God in our

    temples, how callous we have grown.

    When earth is but His footstool,

    and Heaven is His throne.



    We've voted in a government

    that's rotting at the core,

    Appointing Godless Judges;

    who throw reason out the door,



    Too soft to place a killer

    in a well deserved tomb,

    But brave enough to kill a baby

    before he leaves the womb.



    You think that God's not

    angry, that our land's a moral slum?

    How much longer will He wait

    before His judgment comes?



    How are we to face our God,

    from Whom we cannot hide?

    What then is left for us to do,

    but stem this evil tide?



    If we who are His children,

    will humbly turn and pray;

    Seek His holy face

    and mend our evil way:



    Then God will hear from Heaven;

    and forgive us of our sins,

    He'll heal our sickly land

    and those who live within.



    But, America the Beautiful,

    If you don't - then you will see,

    A sad but Holy God

    withdraw His hand from Thee..

    ~~Judge Roy Moore~~



    This says it all. May we offer our prayers for Judge Moore to be blessed and for America to wake up and realize what we need to do to keep OUR America the Beautiful.
    Lift Judge Moore up in Prayer. He has stood firm and needs our support.

    IN GOD WE TRUST
    “Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

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    America was a Christian Nation, Obama is riding the Communist wave

    I started the thread "America is a Christian Nation a long time ago".

    I may have to change that to "America was a Christian Nation".

    In 1963, Khrushchev said, 'We will bury you, Of course we will not bury you with a shovel, your own working class will bury you.

    What he meant is Our Socialist Government and the Non-Working Class will bury us.

    I spent my Christmas of 1968 on a mountains on the boarder of Czechoslovakia's after the Russian Invasion.

    There aren't many of us left that know the threat is real, for several decades America has been dumb-ed down.

    Obama is now riding the Communist Wave to Victory, and it may be too late.

    Obama didn't create the wave he just rode the one we let the Communist create.


    “Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Debray View Post
    I started the thread "America is a Christian Nation a long time ago".
    I may have to change that to "America was a Christian Nation"...
    Better yet, make it accurate: "America never was a christian nation."

    Or even more accurate: "America never was a christian nation notwithstanding the endless repetition of that nonsensical, historically and constitutionally baseless bumper sticker slogan by those who aren't content with just being religious but who insist on forcing their religion on everyone else."

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    I suppose that I am one of those types that you would call non-religious. However I do truly believe American was founded on Christian beliefs and values and nothing you will say can change that. Yes I know we are a melting pot. Yes you are free to worship a cactus here in American and that is part of what makes it so great. Yes I have heard about how brutal Christianity has been over the centuries and yes I know it is still not perfect, but when the SHTF I will fight with all my might and until I take my very last breath on the side of the cross. You people kid yourself if you do not think there are millions like me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosreme View Post
    Better yet, make it accurate: "America never was a christian nation."

    Or even more accurate: "America never was a christian nation notwithstanding the endless repetition of that nonsensical, historically and constitutionally baseless bumper sticker slogan by those who aren't content with just being religious but who insist on forcing their religion on everyone else."
    You say America never was a Christian Nation, I feel sorry for you with no Nation and no God.

    Why do you say people insist on forcing their religion on everyone else?

    If you didn't want to read this post you didn't have to, just like those that complain when there is a flag, or the 10 commandments posted, and they claim it is UN-Constitutional.

    Evidently they can't read, the Constitution doesn't say freedom from Religion, and it also gives you the right to not look, but that isn't good enough is it?

    Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    I doubt if you knew the Bible was the guideline for the Constitution of the United States?

    Most of the dumb ed-down generation has never read the Declaration of Independence either.

    if you haven't here is one of your " historically and constitutionally baseless bumper sticker slogans from 1776"

    IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776

    "The Unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America"

    "When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation".

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness". —

    SCQTT has it right just like most of us that haven't fell for the Communist take-over of America when he said Americans will fight with all their might and until they take their very last breath on the side of the cross.

    Keep working on your COMMUNIST GOALS I'm sticking with SCOTT.

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
    “Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCQTT View Post
    I do truly believe American was founded on Christian beliefs and values and nothing you will say can change that.
    Proving facts and knowledge and reason don't matter to those who have an imaginary supreme being they can use to justify their political and social positions.

    BTW - which version of Christianity do you think the USA was founded on? I'm betting you'll say it was the version you happen to believe in - how convenient.

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    America being a Christian nation, and the majority of Americans calling themselves Christian, is according to the SECULAR definition of Christianity , quite to the contrary according to the BIBLICAL definition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    America being a Christian nation, and the majority of Americans calling themselves Christian, is according to the SECULAR definition of Christianity , quite to the contrary according to the BIBLICAL definition.



    Your right but this discussion is the founding of America and intent of our Founders.

    In 1787 the very year the Constitution was written and approved by Congress, that same Congress passed the Northwest ordinance.

    Article 3: “Religion, Morality, and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged”.
    Washington in his farewell address said, “Of all the dispositions and habits which leads to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports….And let us with caution the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion….Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail to the exclusion of religious principle. It is substantially true that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government.”
    Several Founders have left us with their basic Religious beliefs.
    Ben Franklin summarized the fundamental points of all sound religion.
    “Here is my creed: I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That he governs it by his providence. That he ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable service we render to him is doing good to the other children. That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting the conduct in this.

    Franklin’s five points to be taught in school:

    1. There exists a Creator who made all things, and mankind should recognize and worship Him.
    2. The Creator has revealed a mortal code of behavior for happy livingwhich distinguishes right from wrong.
    3. The Creator holds mankind responsible for the way they treat each other .
    4. All mankind live beyond this life.
    5. In the next life mankind are judged for their conduct in this one.

    Samuel Adams said that this group of basic beliefs which constitutes “the religion of America is the religion of all mankind”.

    John Adams called these tenets the “general principles on which the American civilization was founded”.

    Thomas Jefferson called these basic beliefs the principles “in which God has united us all”

    Our Founders looked upon the fundamental precepts of Religion and Morality as the cornerstone of Good Government something that surly is now missing in Washington.
    “Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Debray View Post
    ...Our Founders looked upon the fundamental precepts of Religion and Morality as the cornerstone of Good Government something that surly is now missing in Washington.
    Funny how nothing like that shows up in the Constitution--which does (inconveniently for the groupthinking religious zealots) contain the Establishment Clause in the 1st amendment. Religious extremists either pretend it doesn't exist (and talk only about the Free Exercise clause as if it were a standalone item) or disingenuously and baselessly indulge in the patent, shameful fiction that the Establishment Clause exists "for the purpose of keeping government out of religion, not the other way around).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    America being a Christian nation, and the majority of Americans calling themselves Christian, is according to the SECULAR definition of Christianity , quite to the contrary according to the BIBLICAL definition.
    Uh? The largest single christian group in the US is Roman Catholic, the "Christians" who wrote the bible, the original Christians, the ones the make-believe Christians broke away from when they wanted to get divorced.

    So America isn't a "Christian"nation ina generic sense, it is a Roman Catholic nation. Those of you who have rejected the one true Jesus of the Roman Catholic church will burn in hell's fire.

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