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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by NDS View Post
    FUD = 'fear, uncertainty, and doubt' Something those who buy what the authorities tell them are well used to. But, I guess if you need to make up swear words to hate people for you can always continue to ignore facts.

    The OP is correct, many of the programs the US has followed for many years will be unable to continue into the future. That hasn't stopped anybody from supporting those programs and hoping a way will be found by whoever gets the responsibility next will figure something out.

    So, NO, the USA is NOT too big to fail. No nation in history has been 'too big to fail' .

    BTW ( 'by the way' for the acronym challenged) It's cute to see y'all complain about your 'troll' while you insult and call names.
    Well I will agree with you on one thing. I should not have let him suck me into a war of words where I end up calling him names. When I do that I have lowered my standards to his level. It is far better to just put someone on ignore than allow them to make you angry.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    I must be a little dense here, it would appear that it's ok for Hollywood to pay millions to actors and capitalize on the people to pay for movies and profit millions. It's ok for sports teams to pay millions to players and capitalize on the people to pay to see the games and profit millions. It's ok for the government to capitalize on the people to pay taxes on their earnings and investments and even their death, collecting millions. But it's not ok for business and industry to make a profit and provide jobs and a better life stile for all. Is the government to big to fail? The way we are headed under this administrations policies it's doomed to implode. It is not possible to spend more than you bring in and survive. Then on top of that destroy the very income machine you need to survive while supporting the non productive.
    "You can get a lot accomplished if you don't care who gets the credit" - Ronald Reagan

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    Those that produce in this Country are penalized
    Those that don't produce in this Country are subsidized
    Those that complain the loudest about those that produce are canonized.

    Who is John Galt?

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    Sorry, left out the quote from Cicero. Goes to show that society never really changes. You have those that Produce and those that take. Doesn't really matter what century you reference or what country you're talking about. We will never regain the prosperity that we once had. We the People that generate are doomed to feed those that don't. From those that can produce to those in need. Below says it all:

    "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public
    debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered
    and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed
    lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of
    living on public assistance."

    - CICERO - 55 BC

    "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --author and philosopher Ayn Rand (1905-1982)

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    To try and get back on track, remember that it was when they were at their biggest that previous dynasties fell. When a government becomes so big that they think they are indestructible that's when they are at their weakest. We now have a government that thinks no amount of overspending will have any ill effect on the country. A government that wants to lower our international standing as the most powerful country in the world. If this keeps up, then yes we could fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mappow View Post
    "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public
    debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered
    and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed
    lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of
    living on public assistance."

    - CICERO - 55 BC
    I really like this quote... if only we (as a country/world) could remember/study history, maybe we would learn from past mistakes and not repeat them.

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    Forgot the author but the saying goes...."those who forget the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them". On a current note, those on "welfare" roles, re education plans, and gub subsidized plans are not part of the unemployment numbers. If you add them to the percentages it would scare the dickens out of us. The "entitlement" roles are increasing at an alarming rate. The only way to keep paying these people is to print more or borrow it. Either way is treasonous and irresponsible. The interest load we are paying will soon overshadow even the defense dept's. share of our tax revenues.
    Thomas Jefferson said that if we ever allow the gub to take us off the gold reserve system the bankers would eventually own everything and the land we fought for would be rented from them. He also said that they are more dangerous than standing armies. Seems he was much more wise than we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -06 View Post
    Forgot the author but the saying goes...."those who forget the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them".
    It was George Santayana
    George Santayana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Unfortunately, much of the wisdom of the post is ignored today.
    On a current note, those on "welfare" roles, re education plans, and gub subsidized plans are not part of the unemployment numbers. If you add them to the percentages it would scare the dickens out of us. The "entitlement" roles are increasing at an alarming rate. The only way to keep paying these people is to print more or borrow it. Either way is treasonous and irresponsible. The interest load we are paying will soon overshadow even the defense dept's. share of our tax revenues.
    Thomas Jefferson said that if we ever allow the gub to take us off the gold reserve system the bankers would eventually own everything and the land we fought for would be rented from them. He also said that they are more dangerous than standing armies. Seems he was much more wise than we know.
    ^This^ is true; the problem is much worse than we realize because nobody takes the time to add up all the different unConstitutional programs our government has. It makes it very difficult to envision a way out of this mess that does not involve catastrophe.
    People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.--River Tam

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDS View Post
    ^This^ is true; the problem is much worse than we realize because nobody takes the time to add up all the different unConstitutional programs our government has. It makes it very difficult to envision a way out of this mess that does not involve catastrophe.
    We have definatly painted ourselves into a corner with this one. Our society has been taught that you no longer have to work for something to earn it. Millions on welfare are proof of this. Our country came up with an idea to pass out money to people who are to lazy to earn it, instead of teaching them a skill that they can use to earn it themselves.

    I'm not reffering to unemployment, because sometimes **** happens and you need a hand to get back on your feet, and continue to be able to feed your family and such... Its the welfare system that we keep shelling money out to. Hard working Americans are paying their money to the same people that are generally the same ones that are involved in most of the crimes that we see today.

    I cant imagine what would happen if the handouts were suddenly cut off. The millions of people that were used to sitting around doing nothing would probably throw a huge fit, probably riot and destroy their own neighborhoods...again..., and still look to the govt for help

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    There was an article in REader's Digest many yrs ago about checks being delayed for over a week. That section of Detroit (I think) broke out in riots and the police were ordered not to interfere as they robbed stores in the area. Yes, it would definitely fall into anarchy almost instantly.

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