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    The Fifth Amendment Does Not Apply to Suspected Terrorists

    I am all for doing everything we can to stop the Islamic terrorists but this does worry me a little bit. Remember there are bureaucrats out there as well as others that would label many of us as "right wing terrorists " just because we disagree with their plan to trample the Constitution under foot and turn our republic into their New World Order.


    Politicians Plead: The Fifth Amendment Does Not Apply to Suspected Terrorists

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    Written by Michael Tennant
    Thursday, 06 May 2010 13:25



    The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads, in part: “No person ... shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” That would seem to be crystal clear, yet Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), and Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) seem unable to understand it.

    Each of them expressed outrage that Faisal Shahzad, the suspect in the attempted Times Square car bombing and an American citizen, was informed of his Miranda rights (i.e., the rights to remain silent and not to incriminate oneself); and Lieberman has introduced legislation to prevent the “Mirandizing” of suspected terrorists in the future.

    McCain, appearing on Imus in the Morning, said that reading Shahzad his Miranda rights “would be a serious mistake.” “Don’t give this guy his Miranda rights until we find out what it’s all about,” he added. That is, give him an opportunity to incriminate himself before telling him that he doesn’t have to do so.

    King, the top Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, asked, “Did they Mirandize him? I know he’s an American citizen, but still.” Nor does King want Shahzad tried in a civilian court unless “the intelligence community” has agreed upon it —notwithstanding the fact that Shahzad’s alleged attempted attack was a criminal act, not an act of war, and that other suspected terrorists have been successfully tried in civilian courts.

    Lieberman, for his part, has introduced a bill that would deprive any American citizen of his citizenship rights if he “is found to be involved in a foreign terrorist organization, as defined by the Department of State.” Lieberman’s bill would amend a law that already strips Americans of their citizenship if they enlist with another country’s military. (Curiously, Americans who choose to serve in the Israeli Defense Forces are exempt from this law.)

    King, McCain, and Lieberman apparently want a distinct justice system outside the traditional civilian justice system for terrorism suspects, with the executive branch given full discretion as to which suspects will be tried in the “enemy combatant”/military tribunal justice system.

    The potential for the abuse of such unchecked power is enormous. Presidents have used the IRS and FBI to harass political opponents for decades. Imagine the temptation not just to inconvenience an opponent but to “disappear” him for good in the alternate justice system. Just a few such disappearances would surely have a chilling effect on all dissent.

    Michael Tennant is a software developer and freelance writer in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    And the agenda continues.
    In America today, it's considered worse to judge evil than to do evil. Never let these Christophobic Liberal Progressive Purveyors of Infanticide & Homosexual Perversion who always manipulate truth to be hate speech set the terms in a debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    I am all for doing everything we can to stop the Islamic terrorists but this does worry me a little bit. Remember there are bureaucrats out there as well as others that would label many of us as "right wing terrorists " just because we disagree with their plan to trample the Constitution under foot and turn our republic into their New World Order.


    Politicians Plead: The Fifth Amendment Does Not Apply to Suspected Terrorists

    Politicians Plead: The Fifth Amendment Does Not Apply to Suspected Terrorists | Print | E-mail
    Written by Michael Tennant
    Thursday, 06 May 2010 13:25



    The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads, in part: “No person ... shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” That would seem to be crystal clear, yet Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), and Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) seem unable to understand it.

    Each of them expressed outrage that Faisal Shahzad, the suspect in the attempted Times Square car bombing and an American citizen, was informed of his Miranda rights (i.e., the rights to remain silent and not to incriminate oneself); and Lieberman has introduced legislation to prevent the “Mirandizing” of suspected terrorists in the future.

    McCain, appearing on Imus in the Morning, said that reading Shahzad his Miranda rights “would be a serious mistake.” “Don’t give this guy his Miranda rights until we find out what it’s all about,” he added. That is, give him an opportunity to incriminate himself before telling him that he doesn’t have to do so.

    King, the top Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, asked, “Did they Mirandize him? I know he’s an American citizen, but still.” Nor does King want Shahzad tried in a civilian court unless “the intelligence community” has agreed upon it —notwithstanding the fact that Shahzad’s alleged attempted attack was a criminal act, not an act of war, and that other suspected terrorists have been successfully tried in civilian courts.

    Lieberman, for his part, has introduced a bill that would deprive any American citizen of his citizenship rights if he “is found to be involved in a foreign terrorist organization, as defined by the Department of State.” Lieberman’s bill would amend a law that already strips Americans of their citizenship if they enlist with another country’s military. (Curiously, Americans who choose to serve in the Israeli Defense Forces are exempt from this law.)

    King, McCain, and Lieberman apparently want a distinct justice system outside the traditional civilian justice system for terrorism suspects, with the executive branch given full discretion as to which suspects will be tried in the “enemy combatant”/military tribunal justice system.

    The potential for the abuse of such unchecked power is enormous. Presidents have used the IRS and FBI to harass political opponents for decades. Imagine the temptation not just to inconvenience an opponent but to “disappear” him for good in the alternate justice system. Just a few such disappearances would surely have a chilling effect on all dissent.

    Michael Tennant is a software developer and freelance writer in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

    Photo of Joe Lieberman (left) and John McCain: AP Images
    BOTH RINO Juan "Gun Ban" McCain and Joe Lieberman need to be handed their PINK SLIPS come November this year...

    Pay attention to whose running against them and the rest of the RINO's and Democraps and Socialists under the guise of Independents in the case of Joe Lieberman & Bernie Saunders in the primaries coming up in the next 30 days...

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    I've always considered McCain a SNAKE from day one. (forked tongue)
    In America today, it's considered worse to judge evil than to do evil. Never let these Christophobic Liberal Progressive Purveyors of Infanticide & Homosexual Perversion who always manipulate truth to be hate speech set the terms in a debate.

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    McCaiin was the most Liberal person running on the Republican ticket. His claim to fame in publlic office is his "ability and willingness to reach across the aisle". His claim to fame in military service is the fact that he survived a POW camp. I have a lot of compassion and respect for those who were POW's, but exactly what qualifications does this provide for public office?

    Lieberman was honest enough to call himself a Democrat, and when he saw a major problem in that party, he declared himself a liberal Independent.

    Our "representatives" are steering us into serfdom.

    First terrorists can't buy, sell or trade guns
    Now terrorists don't have 5A rights
    Next 2A right-wingers are terrorists
    Someplace along the way, the banking system is overwhelmed and subsumed by the Government. (Picture the US Banking Service with postal worker-employees)

    Now you're guilty,you MUST answer any and all questions;
    Your weapons are confiscated;
    You subsist on 0bamacare's FDA approved rations allowance.

    Welcome to his "better America"

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    There is certainly pressure on the Bill of Rights coming in all directions. Just talking about this is giving in to the terrorist.

    In this Sunday Morning's talk show circuit, Eric Holder was pushing the same agenda.:

    Holder Urges Congress to Modify Miranda-Warning Rules
    Holder Urges Congress to Modify Miranda-Warning Rules (Update1) - BusinessWeek

    Administration wants weaker Miranda rules
    Administration wants weaker Miranda rules - Washington Times
    Semper Fi

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    If this keeps up, pretty soon the country will be comprised soley of socialists, terrorists, and serfs. The socialists will run the country, "terrorists" are whoever the socialists say they are, and the serfs will work to fund the whole shebang. Sounds like a plan to me.
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

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    Once congress excepts this BS and gives the rights of the bill of Rights to anyone in the world they will be more accepting of any treaty the U.N. wants signed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfhunter View Post

    Now you're guilty,you MUST answer any and all questions;
    Your weapons are confiscated;
    You subsist on 0bamacare's FDA approved rations allowance.

    Welcome to his "better America"
    What's the need of living if you have to live as a slave to the government? As long as I have breath in my body and a gun in my hand and bullets to use I will never be a slave for the government.

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