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    Lets not forget that sometimes the cages need to be rattled. If you dont have someone that is willing to stand up and "agitate" then people will fall into a false sense of security, become lathargic, and docile. People need to be shakin awake now and again, or else we let those in charge start slowly chipping away at our freedoms. Even if it comes from an extreme point of view, it will still keep you on your toes.

    I dont want to end up in a cage, so if that means I have to start a riot to raise the rest of the inmates from their cots then thats what will be done. I guess if we didnt have anyone who was willing to rattle a few cages we would still be under british rule. So before you start complaining about someone who agitates, you might want to keep in mind our history as people, and where we would all be if we were always complacent...

    Common sense should always have precedent over tradition

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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    YOU sir, are wrong about that. I contribute to firearms, and CCW on a regular basis.
    IMO, this website is not about CCW, or firearms, it is about the uptight, right wiing, ultra religious, uber conservative, parinoid point of view. If anyone disagree's with that point of view they are labled as an agitator, and a troll.

    May I ask what is happening to our country, that wasn't happening, under the thumb of Dubya, and the oil companies?

    It is business as usual in the capital. Different players, same game.
    If you have contributed anything serious about either guns or CCW I must have missed it, I'm relatively new
    to all of this; so congratulations on contributing something of value to the general audience at some time or
    another. Judging from your earlier posts on this thread however, I'll stand by my assessment of you being more of an agitator or instigator than a serious contributor here.

    I am Right Wing, but not ultra or uber anything. No apologies here for being conservative nor do I expect any from you for being a liberal. We can agree to disagree and that's fine, but I didn't call you a troll; that was by someone else and I was commenting on their classification of others who evidently were not agreeing with him or who express views other than to his liking --- whatever that is.

    What's happening in the country? Well, if you like a hard left turn to Socialism then I guess you're fine with
    what's happening. Personally, I prefer well regulated Capitalism that has taken this country to the front of
    the line in manufacturing, engineering, medicine, science --- pick your category --- other than wealth redistribution of course; fortunately we haven't taken that road up to now. Up to now what one earned was up to each individual as to how hard he wanted to work, whether or not to get an education which allows a better paying job, work hard, save money and perhaps invest some of that money into an affordable home that he could afford to pay for himself. OR one could choose to be not so productive and settle for a lifestyle that did not achieve the ability to EARN to own a decent car or buy a house. OR one could choose to sit back and wait for others to supply them with their worldly needs without putting forth any effort. Up to now, everyone has had the option to choose their comfort level and standard of living
    based on how hard they were willing to work.

    So I don't agree that it's business as usual with our government. Let's see. How many privately held companies did Dubya take over? Did he hand over companies to the labor unions and screw hard working
    people out of their stocks and bonds that they had in GM or Chrysler? I don't seem to recall any. I'm not
    saying that he was a saint and I disagreed with plenty of things he and the Republicans did during his two
    terms. The enormous spending that was done pushed droves of people away from the Republican party
    because it was not what conservatives like me believe in. But he did not push our country head long down the road to Socialism either.

    Greed, from both sides of the isle, both parties and Walll St. are partly to blame for where we are today.
    That and the unraveling of our social fabric and our morals have contributed greatly too. Another subject.

    As to this forum not being about firearms or CCW, don't you suppose that it's possible that people who
    cherish their rights, all rights guaranteed to us under our original Constitution, see these rights being eroded
    daily and that's why they're bringing up these subjects. Subjects that affect these rights? I think this is the
    perfect place to express concern and air opinions, yours and mind. Yes, cages need to be rattled from time
    to time, but only by serious, to the point, discussions and sharing of vital information. So, when you have something serious to contribute, I'm all ears.
    Kill them all and let God sort them out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    YOU sir, are wrong about that. I contribute to firearms, and CCW on a regular basis.
    IMO, this website is not about CCW, or firearms, it is about the uptight, right wiing, ultra religious, uber conservative, parinoid point of view. If anyone disagree's with that point of view they are labled as an agitator, and a troll.

    May I ask what is happening to our country, that wasn't happening, under the thumb of Dubya, and the oil companies?

    It is business as usual in the capital. Different players, same game.
    Please tell me what did happen with the oil company's under President Bushes watch?

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    Humm.. I took a few days off from the site and it looks like things haven't changed all that much...

    +1 Outtahere

    Peace...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigrebnc1861 View Post
    Please tell me what did happen with the oil company's under President Bushes watch?
    Quick explanation --- they made an obscene (to you and me) amount of money. How? By tapping into the
    wells that they drilled 20-25 years ago, at great expense at that time. At that time, oil was selling at about $25-30/barrel, but also at that time, many of the wells that they drilled, and paid for, were ordered "capped"
    by the government; so those capped wells didn't produce anything. But, it was like money in the bank. As other
    wells dried up, the capped wells were released for production and then oil was selling for anywhere from $70
    per barrel up to $150 a barrel or so when it was the highest. Soooo, it wasn't anything that Dubya or
    Slick Willie or Bush Sr. did that enabled the evil oil companies to make so much money, it was government
    regulation that limited domestic production and encouraged importation of oil from Mexico, the North Sea,
    Saudi Arabia, Iraq and even Iran.

    I would really like to think that our government had a strategy of using up everyone else's oil and holding
    ours in reserve for ourselves after others have run low/out, but I'm pretty sure they aren't that smart.

    There are other factors to also be taken into consideration, but that's my view in a nutshell. If I'm wrong or
    someone else knows better, I welcome their input.
    Kill them all and let God sort them out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTTAHERE View Post
    Quick explanation --- they made an obscene (to you and me) amount of money. How? By tapping into the
    wells that they drilled 20-25 years ago, at great expense at that time. At that time, oil was selling at about $25-30/barrel, but also at that time, many of the wells that they drilled, and paid for, were ordered "capped"
    by the government; so those capped wells didn't produce anything. But, it was like money in the bank. As other
    wells dried up, the capped wells were released for production and then oil was selling for anywhere from $70
    per barrel up to $150 a barrel or so when it was the highest. Soooo, it wasn't anything that Dubya or
    Slick Willie or Bush Sr. did that enabled the evil oil companies to make so much money, it was government
    regulation that limited domestic production and encouraged importation of oil from Mexico, the North Sea,
    Saudi Arabia, Iraq and even Iran.

    I would really like to think that our government had a strategy of using up everyone else's oil and holding
    ours in reserve for ourselves after others have run low/out, but I'm pretty sure they aren't that smart.

    There are other factors to also be taken into consideration, but that's my view in a nutshell. If I'm wrong or
    someone else knows better, I welcome their input.
    I actually thought it was because of the high price of gas because they made such high profits? But fdor the most part I blame the tree huggers for making the oil company's go to places that forced them to have higher gas prices and also go to groups like opec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigrebnc1861 View Post
    I actually thought it was because of the high price of gas because they made such high profits? But fdor the most part I blame the tree huggers for making the oil company's go to places that forced them to have higher gas prices and also go to groups like opec.
    Don't get me wrong, they did make money because of the high prices of gas, brought on by the high prices
    of oil, but because they had their "cheap" oil already in the wells all they had to do was pump it out and refine
    it and sell it --- at huge profits. But the price of oil, as best as I can tell, was not caused by either the oil
    companies or our govt. but rather the ones controlling the oil in the mid-east. Our domestic producers just
    happened to benefit from it --- big time.
    BUT, things being what they are today, I would not discount the possibility that there was some collusion
    between our producers and others to ramp up the prices. Sorry, but no one is above suspicion these days.
    Kill them all and let God sort them out!

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