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  1. I've been told the link above may have trouble working. Here's the link you can copy / paste into your browser, if you wish:

    "www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1051358&page=1"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    Just a heads up folks, please note, we want to make sure we have 2 (Personally I'd like to see a 100 or more, but a few in each district will do) or more people in each district covered before we all file (BATFE FORM 1 OR BATFE FORM 4) concurrently/simultaneously which we will coordinate from here...

    Will advise.

    Spread the word...

    If anybody is a member of the ar15 forum aforesaid, please post a link from there to here, on the applicable thread therein; I am having trouble registering there at the moment...
    Already taken care of. I spread the link around quite a bit last night, I've got a few more sites to post at in my list. Spread the word people, let's make this viral.
    One must be wary of the mentality creating the problem or the law creating the crime.

    I love America and the Constitution, if you don't then get out!

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    A Recent Victim Of The So-Called FOPA of 1986

    Olofson Relief Fund Olofson Relief Fund
    David Olofson has been subjected to a gross miscarriage of justice. What happened to Olofson could happen to any American who owns a semi-automatic firearm.
    He was convicted of knowingly transferring an unregistered machine gun -- a standard semi-auto rifle which fired two three-round bursts and then jammed. Gun owners call that a malfunction. The federal government calls it an easy way to get a felony conviction. Olofson was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison.

    David Olofson is an information technology professional with a wife, three children and a mortgage. Until his conviction, he was also in the National Guard.
    The Olofson Relief Fund has been set up to allow concerned Americans to help the Olfoson’s make their mortgage and (their one) car payments while Dave is unable to work.
    If you decide to a monthly contribution to the Olofson Relief Fund, your credit card will be charged monthly for the amount you have indicated. This will continue until Olofson is out of prison -- or you notify us to discontinue the charges. You may also choose to make a one time donation.

    Gun Owners of America is acting as the agent for the fund. All moneys collected will be transferred regularly to the mortgage and car loan holders. These contributions are not tax-deductible.
    To read about this case in greater detail, please visit the Olofson Section on the Gun Owners Foundation Website at www.gunowners.com/olofson
    Also, CNN video coverage is archived at Video Library

    Olofson Relief Fund

    The David Olofson Case

    YouTube - GOA Lawyer Herb Titus talking about David Olofson Case with Lou Dobbs CNN February 18, 2009

    YouTube - David Olofson Update: CNN Lou Dobbs - January 22, 2009

    Had Enough Yet?

    WTFU SHEEPLE !!!

    Take Back The Republic !!!


    The First Fundamental Principle of Constitutional Interpretation: Your Rights Don't Come From Government...
    Oath Keepers: CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC 101: YOUR RIGHTS DON’T COME FROM GOVERNMENT

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    Oh my god! That is a travesty and an absolutely complete injustice. This man MUST be released, how could they do that over a malfunctioning gun. This just defies all logic.
    One must be wary of the mentality creating the problem or the law creating the crime.

    I love America and the Constitution, if you don't then get out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unfettered Might View Post
    Oh my god! That is a travesty and an absolutely complete injustice. This man MUST be released, how could they do that over a malfunctioning gun. This just defies all logic.
    Because we have in my opinion: P.O.S. attorneys like Alan Gura going in front of SCOTUS saying its ok for the fed to ban guns not in "common use"

    When I PERSONALLY asked him why he conceded without a argument in front of SCOTUS (Heller 2008) that it was ok for the fed to ban machine guns he answered I quote:

    "OK, so you want machine guns and RPGs on airplanes – any weapon any place or time, right? Got it. Thanks. Good luck with that."

    How about this jewel?

    ...JUSTICE BREYER: What's your response to the question?

    MR. GURA: Well, my response is that the government can ban arms that are not appropriate for civilian use. There is no question of that...

    JUSTICE GINSBURG: For example?

    MR. GURA: For example, I think machine guns: It's difficult to imagine a construction of Miller, or a construction of the lower court's opinion, that would sanction machine guns or the plastic,
    undetectable handguns that the Solicitor General spoke of...

    JUSTICE GINSBURG: But why wouldn't the machine gun qualify? General Clement told us that's standard issue in the military.

    MR. GURA: But it's not an arm of the type that people might be expected to possess commonly in ordinary use. (WHY is it not in common use? http://www.usacarry.com/forums/firea...-criteria.html)

    Post This Transcript Link Anywhere That Somebody Still Thinks Alan Gura Is Not Doing Us Great Harm Every Time He Opens His Mouth In Front Of A Court On The Second Amendment:
    http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arg...pts/07-290.pdf

    AND this is the guy that is standing up for "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" ?

    HERE IS OUR MANTRA: IF THEY CAN BAN ONE TYPE OR CLASS OF WEAPON THEY CAN BAN THEM ALL...

    Look to England, Australia et.al. and the history of the world if you do not clearly see the stepping stone to total confiscation...

    The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects a right to keep & bear arms.

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    The Fifth Amendment (Amendment V) to the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, protects against abuse of government authority in a legal procedure.

    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation

    The Hughes Amendment #777 to the so-called FOPA of 1986 Fails Muster on both at minimum...

    In 1934, the United States Supreme Court held that due process is violated "if a practice or rule offends some principle of justice so rooted in the traditions and conscience of our people as to be ranked as fundamental".

    YouTube- Alan Keyes on the Second Amendment and gun rights

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    USC 18 922(o) - United States vs. Fincher

    Another recent victim of the so-called FOPA of 1986 (E.G.: USC 18 922(o))...

    United States vs. Fincher:

    FAYETTEVILLE -- A sentencing date has been set for a Washington County militia leader convicted in federal court of having three illegal machine guns.

    Hollis Wayne Fincher, 60, was convicted Jan. 12 of possessing illegal, unregistered weapons, including machine guns and a sawed-off shotgun.

    Sentencing is set for 10 a.m. June 22 in U.S. District Court in Fayetteville before Judge Jimm Larry Hendren.

    Fincher faces up to 20 years in federal prison.

    In March, Fincher essentially fired his attorney, Oscar Stilley, and was appointed an attorney by the court, Shannon Lea Blatt.

    Fincher had two .308-caliber machine guns, homemade versions of the Browning model 1919. The other firearms were 9 mm STEN design submachine guns and a shotgun.

    Fincher never denied he had the guns.

    The defense tried to make a case of the Constitution versus gun laws; the government kept the case more simple, arguing Fincher had the machine guns and they weren't registered as required by federal law.

    After the trial, Hendren refused to throw the conviction out after Fincher challenged the court's jurisdiction and the Grand Jury indictment against him.

    Hendren said his court has jurisdiction to hear any case arising from federal law within the Western District of Arkansas. Hendren said the indictment was legally sufficient because it contained all of the essential elements of the offense charged, in this case that Fincher knowingly possessed a machine gun.

    Hendren said the government was not required to put on evidence of any connection with interstate commerce in the case.

    Fincher didn't testify before the jury. The judge ruled after hearing testimony, with the jury out of the room, that Fincher's proposed testimony was inadmissible because it was aimed at challenging the legality of federal gun laws, not whether Fincher had illegal, unregistered firearms in his possession. (unfricking believable...)

    United States vs. Fincher: Sentencing Set In Machine Gun Case

    "Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American ... the unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." - Tench Coxe

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

  8. About the David Olofson case above, I just have one question. Was it determined whether Olofson tried to modify his AR-15 into an automatic weapon? If he did, then it's clear to me that he broke the law (as much as I don't agree with it). If not, then this is a gross example of the failure of our justice system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight View Post
    About the David Olofson case above, I just have one question. Was it determined whether Olofson tried to modify his AR-15 into an automatic weapon? If he did, then it's clear to me that he broke the law (as much as I don't agree with it). If not, then this is a gross example of the failure of our justice system.
    Well I would think it was implied, when they said the gun malfunctioned. It's the latter situation.
    One must be wary of the mentality creating the problem or the law creating the crime.

    I love America and the Constitution, if you don't then get out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight View Post
    About the David Olofson case above, I just have one question. Was it determined whether Olofson tried to modify his AR-15 into an automatic weapon? If he did, then it's clear to me that he broke the law (as much as I don't agree with it). If not, then this is a gross example of the failure of our justice system.

    David Olofson did not modify his weapon, that had a recalled manufacturers defect...

    David Olofson was sent to prison for violating a unconstitutional law when he loaned his weapon to a friend and it malfunctioned at a shooting range ... details and all court documents, videos, audio and textual transcripts and testimonies are available from the links I previously posted herein...

    suffice to say the longer we allow USC 18 922(o) to go unchallenged to worse it is going to get, its only been challenged once in the 11th district and it was successful but the ruling was made intentionally limited in scope so it only affected those in Georgia...

    Hence the time for bending over and taking whatever the Fed decides to give is over...

    HERE IS OUR MANTRA: IF THEY CAN BAN ONE TYPE OR CLASS OF WEAPON THEY CAN BAN THEM ALL...

    WTFU SHEEPLE !

    TAKE BACK THE REPUBLIC !

    The First Fundamental Principle of Constitutional Interpretation: Your Rights Don't Come From Government...

    Oath Keepers: CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC 101: YOUR RIGHTS DON’T COME FROM GOVERNMENT

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight View Post
    About the David Olofson case above, I just have one question. Was it determined whether Olofson tried to modify his AR-15 into an automatic weapon? If he did, then it's clear to me that he broke the law (as much as I don't agree with it). If not, then this is a gross example of the failure of our justice system.
    I followed this story back when it first became publicly wide spread. In just about all of the videos and interviews posted around much of the whole story was left out. In reading much of the information that was not posted by his supporters the answer to your question is yes he intntionally modified the gun. In fact the gun he loaned to the fellow at the range was his personal gun that he loaned for his use until he had made in one to buy. This fellow has become the poster boy for certain people to rally around but from the actual details of both the trial transcript and investigation he was completely guilty. I have seen many posts and articles that have only published one side of the story, usually from people that have never even met anyone involved in the case and totally ignoring the actual facts of the case. I know there will be many that wil probably will respond with rebuttals to this so I am not going to try to replay old arguements but from what I could find from looking at the entire facts of the case he was guilty as charged.

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